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Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
November 01 2010 11:38 GMT
#1801
On November 01 2010 20:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
or perhaps some role that benefits from being lynched in some way

earlier in the thread during your "campaign" for mayor you seemed very comfortable with idea of the town lynching you while being very adverse to the possibility that you might be killed at night


or perhaps if i get killed at all?
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
November 01 2010 13:24 GMT
#1802
hxey guys, just woke up ^^ :3
there already votes in the voting thread :O....
very interesting that the elder vote has been used again? Could it be that there is some insight that our DTs has connection with the elder and the vote is 100% correct? :D
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 01 2010 13:24 GMT
#1803
On November 01 2010 20:18 Coagulation wrote:
the way hes jumping all over aeres with lynch first ask questions later looks scummy.

Actually I'm just waiting for a counter argument. There's only so much I can say by myself, it takes two to create a discussion.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 01 2010 13:25 GMT
#1804
On November 01 2010 22:24 NB wrote:
very interesting that the elder vote has been used again? Could it be that there is some insight that our DTs has connection with the elder and the vote is 100% correct? :D

Interesting theory. We should keep this in mind, perhaps?
lalala
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
November 01 2010 13:26 GMT
#1805
On November 01 2010 22:24 NB wrote:
hxey guys, just woke up ^^ :3
there already votes in the voting thread :O....
very interesting that the elder vote has been used again? Could it be that there is some insight that our DTs has connection with the elder and the vote is 100% correct? :D


I'm gonna guess its not related at all. Could be the elder trying to confuse ppl or just make em talk.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 01 2010 13:39 GMT
#1806
On November 01 2010 09:27 Lexpar wrote:
I think that because I'm alive. I am therefore I think?

We can trust DocH. We should work with him.


I would like you to clarify for us. Why should we trust Dr.H? Give us a reason. Your posts thus far have been vague and largely unhelpful.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
November 01 2010 13:40 GMT
#1807
On November 01 2010 20:18 Coagulation wrote:
regarding youngminii

this was doch number 1 suspect 75% of the game so much that he had made him his first lynch as mayor. right out the gate doch is gunning to take him out. then what happens? youngminii dodges the lynch ? now for some reason doch isnt even thinking twice about youngminii? did i miss something? Was he pardoned or something? Im wondering what your stance is on youngmainii currently, doch?. the way hes jumping all over aeres with lynch first ask questions later looks scummy.


If you read the last 10 pages or so, you'll notice youngminii was actually pro-DH when DH was arguing with Pandain. I haven't brought this up explicitly, but since you're already talking about him, I might as well add in.

On November 01 2010 20:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if I'm roleblocked every night then you'd have to trust me.


I know I'm quoting out of context, but to me, this is a big no-no, and I would never say something like that.

On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:
This is Radio LOONY!
With DrH as mayor we are in a sticky situation. Be careful, he’s red. I wish I was mayor. I am the serious cat. Meow, Meow, :3
RISE AND SHINE YOU IDIOTS.


Come to think of it, have anyone ever though of the possible link between Radio LOONY and Glasse? I do recall him mentioning cats a few times in this thread, and using the ":3" face, but it was him posting in the haunted thread that reminded me and ring the bell.

On November 01 2010 20:43 Glasse wrote:
I say useful stuff once in a while

im like 3 faced

1/3 normal cat
1/3 crazy cat
1/3 serious cat


Regardless of Glasse's role/alignment, I just can't seem to ignore this possible link.
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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 01 2010 13:43 GMT
#1808
I'm sorry about this I had a busy weekend and I am trying to catchup as best as possible... I was reading up until Day 2 carefully and then I woke up to a bunch of new posts, so if things have been rejected/accepted I apologize...

On November 01 2010 14:26 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 14:17 infinitestory wrote:
On November 01 2010 14:05 youngminii wrote:
Well then we should kill Aeres and find out, no? ^_^

You're an eager one. Killing someone for the sake of getting information sounds a bit hasty.

I want to see a condensed argument that Aeres is scum rather than just "more scum than town."


1 bodyguard announced.
Aeres claims bodyguard after DC's alleged soft claim.
Annul dies at night, revealed to be bodyguard.
DC says he never role claimed BG.
I point out in 3 ways that Aeres screwed up and had to be lying about the claim.
He then comes out and says he lied.

If you don't think he's Scum then show us someone even Scummier than he.


Totally agree. However I'm trying to understand the possibility of the mafia outting someone as a "bodyguard." What are the benefits?
-Aeres would be 'lynchproof.'
-DrH has to sit knowing that his "BG" is out in the open? Puts pressure on him?

Why else would someone want to do that.

It looks like he made a mistake. And I'm more inclined to believe InfiniteStory on this one. Up to this post I am 50/50 about lynching him.

I'm not going to quote YM directly since he seems to be active (wow..).

Why you so active? Day 1 you were hiding in the back not making many waves. Now you want to go after someone who has probably made a "newbie" mistake as though he's just stolen all of the cookies from the cookie jar.

Look at your arguments, and look at other arguments. You're really gunning for someone who we don't really know enough about. And you're kinda throwing random discussion out. Sad to say this is typical of your "pro-town" play. It's also worth noting that we know you're not "just a townie" since you would usually play quiet until you're lynched, making yourself completely useless. How useful your being should determine your alignment...

Also this:

On November 01 2010 13:47 youngminii wrote:
You should see Pandain's style of play in other games. In almost every game as town he would pull this type of shit and get killed and flip town and cause mass confusion.

@jcarl: I understand what you mean by the town being very secure about me but there's not much they can do. As far as they can tell, I might be invincible and trying to kill me will do nothing. In any case, there's not really anything toooooo scummy about my (perceived) role imo.


I hope not, but we can always test this scenario down the road

On November 01 2010 20:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if I'm roleblocked every night then you'd have to trust me which is as good as anything other mayoral candidates offered and I'd be soaking up whatever roleblock power it was. we can only see what happens.

a DT could investigate me as well if that would add any security to anyones mind. there is not necessarily a godfather in this game and I'd be suspicious of players operating under the assumption hat the godfather exists particularly in a game where the godfather would have to make up a role for himself.


What if a DT can't check you? We don't know what you _should_ come back even if you were checked. We would waste a check figuring out of we can actually check you. I won't be throwing a FoS on you though since it's ridiculous to make that call by Day 2. There's so much behind the last day that could account for the failures of the lynch and the first night that we're not even aware of. It will ruin discussion by dwelling on it.

"We have unfinished business, I and he."
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 01 2010 13:44 GMT
#1809
On November 01 2010 22:40 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 20:18 Coagulation wrote:
regarding youngminii

this was doch number 1 suspect 75% of the game so much that he had made him his first lynch as mayor. right out the gate doch is gunning to take him out. then what happens? youngminii dodges the lynch ? now for some reason doch isnt even thinking twice about youngminii? did i miss something? Was he pardoned or something? Im wondering what your stance is on youngmainii currently, doch?. the way hes jumping all over aeres with lynch first ask questions later looks scummy.


If you read the last 10 pages or so, you'll notice youngminii was actually pro-DH when DH was arguing with Pandain. I haven't brought this up explicitly, but since you're already talking about him, I might as well add in.

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 20:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if I'm roleblocked every night then you'd have to trust me.


I know I'm quoting out of context, but to me, this is a big no-no, and I would never say something like that.

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:
This is Radio LOONY!
With DrH as mayor we are in a sticky situation. Be careful, he’s red. I wish I was mayor. I am the serious cat. Meow, Meow, :3
RISE AND SHINE YOU IDIOTS.


Come to think of it, have anyone ever though of the possible link between Radio LOONY and Glasse? I do recall him mentioning cats a few times in this thread, and using the ":3" face, but it was him posting in the haunted thread that reminded me and ring the bell.

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 20:43 Glasse wrote:
I say useful stuff once in a while

im like 3 faced

1/3 normal cat
1/3 crazy cat
1/3 serious cat


Regardless of Glasse's role/alignment, I just can't seem to ignore this possible link.


Yes, we have considered this possibility. We have no idea, but Artanis said this:


On November 01 2010 12:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 12:02 infinitestory wrote:
On November 01 2010 12:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'd like to take this opportunity to say that LSB and I will never outright lie about something. If something is false in something I said, there will almost always be hints to it. This is not a game where the town has to battle both the GM and the mafia.

What about Radio LOONY?

Broadcaster by a player within the game. My plan was to make that more clear though LSB posted it a little early.


Whether or not this is a Mafia aligned player, we can't know for sure, but in my mind, it makes sense that this would be a scum role.
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Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
November 01 2010 13:44 GMT
#1810
quoting other unrelated thread = irrelevant
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 01 2010 13:48 GMT
#1811
On November 01 2010 22:43 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I'm sorry about this I had a busy weekend and I am trying to catchup as best as possible... I was reading up until Day 2 carefully and then I woke up to a bunch of new posts, so if things have been rejected/accepted I apologize...

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 14:26 Ace wrote:
On November 01 2010 14:17 infinitestory wrote:
On November 01 2010 14:05 youngminii wrote:
Well then we should kill Aeres and find out, no? ^_^

You're an eager one. Killing someone for the sake of getting information sounds a bit hasty.

I want to see a condensed argument that Aeres is scum rather than just "more scum than town."


1 bodyguard announced.
Aeres claims bodyguard after DC's alleged soft claim.
Annul dies at night, revealed to be bodyguard.
DC says he never role claimed BG.
I point out in 3 ways that Aeres screwed up and had to be lying about the claim.
He then comes out and says he lied.

If you don't think he's Scum then show us someone even Scummier than he.


Totally agree. However I'm trying to understand the possibility of the mafia outting someone as a "bodyguard." What are the benefits?
-Aeres would be 'lynchproof.'
-DrH has to sit knowing that his "BG" is out in the open? Puts pressure on him?

Why else would someone want to do that.

It looks like he made a mistake. And I'm more inclined to believe InfiniteStory on this one. Up to this post I am 50/50 about lynching him.

I'm not going to quote YM directly since he seems to be active (wow..).

Why you so active? Day 1 you were hiding in the back not making many waves. Now you want to go after someone who has probably made a "newbie" mistake as though he's just stolen all of the cookies from the cookie jar.

Look at your arguments, and look at other arguments. You're really gunning for someone who we don't really know enough about. And you're kinda throwing random discussion out. Sad to say this is typical of your "pro-town" play. It's also worth noting that we know you're not "just a townie" since you would usually play quiet until you're lynched, making yourself completely useless. How useful your being should determine your alignment...

Also this:

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 13:47 youngminii wrote:
You should see Pandain's style of play in other games. In almost every game as town he would pull this type of shit and get killed and flip town and cause mass confusion.

@jcarl: I understand what you mean by the town being very secure about me but there's not much they can do. As far as they can tell, I might be invincible and trying to kill me will do nothing. In any case, there's not really anything toooooo scummy about my (perceived) role imo.


I hope not, but we can always test this scenario down the road

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 20:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if I'm roleblocked every night then you'd have to trust me which is as good as anything other mayoral candidates offered and I'd be soaking up whatever roleblock power it was. we can only see what happens.

a DT could investigate me as well if that would add any security to anyones mind. there is not necessarily a godfather in this game and I'd be suspicious of players operating under the assumption hat the godfather exists particularly in a game where the godfather would have to make up a role for himself.


What if a DT can't check you? We don't know what you _should_ come back even if you were checked. We would waste a check figuring out of we can actually check you. I won't be throwing a FoS on you though since it's ridiculous to make that call by Day 2. There's so much behind the last day that could account for the failures of the lynch and the first night that we're not even aware of. It will ruin discussion by dwelling on it.



It has already been confirmed by Artanis that Dr.H can be DT checked.

For example, he should come back as Mayor Stick assuming he hasn't lied about his role.
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Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
November 01 2010 13:51 GMT
#1812
On November 01 2010 22:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:40 Fishball wrote:
On November 01 2010 20:18 Coagulation wrote:
regarding youngminii

this was doch number 1 suspect 75% of the game so much that he had made him his first lynch as mayor. right out the gate doch is gunning to take him out. then what happens? youngminii dodges the lynch ? now for some reason doch isnt even thinking twice about youngminii? did i miss something? Was he pardoned or something? Im wondering what your stance is on youngmainii currently, doch?. the way hes jumping all over aeres with lynch first ask questions later looks scummy.


If you read the last 10 pages or so, you'll notice youngminii was actually pro-DH when DH was arguing with Pandain. I haven't brought this up explicitly, but since you're already talking about him, I might as well add in.

On November 01 2010 20:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if I'm roleblocked every night then you'd have to trust me.


I know I'm quoting out of context, but to me, this is a big no-no, and I would never say something like that.

On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:
This is Radio LOONY!
With DrH as mayor we are in a sticky situation. Be careful, he’s red. I wish I was mayor. I am the serious cat. Meow, Meow, :3
RISE AND SHINE YOU IDIOTS.


Come to think of it, have anyone ever though of the possible link between Radio LOONY and Glasse? I do recall him mentioning cats a few times in this thread, and using the ":3" face, but it was him posting in the haunted thread that reminded me and ring the bell.

On November 01 2010 20:43 Glasse wrote:
I say useful stuff once in a while

im like 3 faced

1/3 normal cat
1/3 crazy cat
1/3 serious cat


Regardless of Glasse's role/alignment, I just can't seem to ignore this possible link.


Yes, we have considered this possibility. We have no idea, but Artanis said this:


Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 12:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 01 2010 12:02 infinitestory wrote:
On November 01 2010 12:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'd like to take this opportunity to say that LSB and I will never outright lie about something. If something is false in something I said, there will almost always be hints to it. This is not a game where the town has to battle both the GM and the mafia.

What about Radio LOONY?

Broadcaster by a player within the game. My plan was to make that more clear though LSB posted it a little early.


Whether or not this is a Mafia aligned player, we can't know for sure, but in my mind, it makes sense that this would be a scum role.


I don't think i'd be dumb enough to point to myself as red with a radio message...
It might be a scum role though.
Some of you really think i'm an idiot.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
November 01 2010 13:52 GMT
#1813
On November 01 2010 20:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I've said it a million times before and I'll say it again. I have the power to confirm my role to another player. Obviously there is the possibility that this role can be disrupted by other roles or that the person who I confirm to could lie about it. Both are possible. There is also a possibility my role is insane in some way but there is nothing in my role PM to make me believe that and Artanis alluded to the fact that if a role was indeed deceptive in some way that there would be some sort of clue within the role description itself.


I haven't said much yet, but I might as well clarify it here.
I don't buy it.

On November 01 2010 19:07 CubEdIn wrote:
Alright, this game is giving me a headache.

To everyone who passes by, please read this post. It's the best I can do to contribute.

Events
- DrH failed to prove himself, not the most horrible thing that could happen but pretty bad.
- Unless he pokes someone, and THAT someone is uninfected AND gets a message that he has been poked by Dr.H we cannot confirm that he's blue.
If mr.sticky is contaminating people, then we're not going to be able to figure out if dr.H is blue or not. But if he can just "check" blues for contamination, then we can assume that he is (since, supposedly, Mafia already knows who is infected and who is not).



Seems like some players are misunderstanding this scenario.
We can only prove DH's role ability, but that does not necessarily make him "blue" or town. Mafia can very well have this "Sticky" role too.
The only way we can confirm DH's alignment, is if we can prove his poking ability, to prove he is not God Father, and have an alignment DT, if this role exist, check him.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
November 01 2010 13:55 GMT
#1814
On November 01 2010 22:44 Glasse wrote:
quoting other unrelated thread = irrelevant


Do you read?

On November 01 2010 22:40 Fishball wrote:

I do recall him mentioning cats a few times in this thread, and using the ":3" face


靈魂交響曲
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 01 2010 13:55 GMT
#1815
On November 01 2010 22:51 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:40 Fishball wrote:
On November 01 2010 20:18 Coagulation wrote:
regarding youngminii

this was doch number 1 suspect 75% of the game so much that he had made him his first lynch as mayor. right out the gate doch is gunning to take him out. then what happens? youngminii dodges the lynch ? now for some reason doch isnt even thinking twice about youngminii? did i miss something? Was he pardoned or something? Im wondering what your stance is on youngmainii currently, doch?. the way hes jumping all over aeres with lynch first ask questions later looks scummy.


If you read the last 10 pages or so, you'll notice youngminii was actually pro-DH when DH was arguing with Pandain. I haven't brought this up explicitly, but since you're already talking about him, I might as well add in.

On November 01 2010 20:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if I'm roleblocked every night then you'd have to trust me.


I know I'm quoting out of context, but to me, this is a big no-no, and I would never say something like that.

On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:
This is Radio LOONY!
With DrH as mayor we are in a sticky situation. Be careful, he’s red. I wish I was mayor. I am the serious cat. Meow, Meow, :3
RISE AND SHINE YOU IDIOTS.


Come to think of it, have anyone ever though of the possible link between Radio LOONY and Glasse? I do recall him mentioning cats a few times in this thread, and using the ":3" face, but it was him posting in the haunted thread that reminded me and ring the bell.

On November 01 2010 20:43 Glasse wrote:
I say useful stuff once in a while

im like 3 faced

1/3 normal cat
1/3 crazy cat
1/3 serious cat


Regardless of Glasse's role/alignment, I just can't seem to ignore this possible link.


Yes, we have considered this possibility. We have no idea, but Artanis said this:


On November 01 2010 12:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 01 2010 12:02 infinitestory wrote:
On November 01 2010 12:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'd like to take this opportunity to say that LSB and I will never outright lie about something. If something is false in something I said, there will almost always be hints to it. This is not a game where the town has to battle both the GM and the mafia.

What about Radio LOONY?

Broadcaster by a player within the game. My plan was to make that more clear though LSB posted it a little early.


Whether or not this is a Mafia aligned player, we can't know for sure, but in my mind, it makes sense that this would be a scum role.


I don't think i'd be dumb enough to point to myself as red with a radio message...
It might be a scum role though.
Some of you really think i'm an idiot.


I never said I thought LOONY was you, but it is someone trying to look like you, or at least reference you.

I don't think you're an idiot, I think you're very entertaining, lol
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Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
November 01 2010 13:56 GMT
#1816
I demand entertainement. I'm bored in my marketing class.

:3
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
November 01 2010 13:57 GMT
#1817
On November 01 2010 22:55 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:44 Glasse wrote:
quoting other unrelated thread = irrelevant


Do you read?

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:40 Fishball wrote:

I do recall him mentioning cats a few times in this thread, and using the ":3" face




Do YOU read?

He quoted my post in "about haunted mafia" thread

I'm not denying i used cat references and faces in this thread.

:3
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
November 01 2010 14:00 GMT
#1818
On November 01 2010 22:57 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:55 Fishball wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:44 Glasse wrote:
quoting other unrelated thread = irrelevant


Do you read?

On November 01 2010 22:40 Fishball wrote:

I do recall him mentioning cats a few times in this thread, and using the ":3" face




Do YOU read?

He quoted my post in "about haunted mafia" thread

I'm not denying i used cat references and faces in this thread.

:3


Who is HE? That was me.
Re-read my post again.

I said it was reading the Haunted thread that reminded me of all your cat references IN THIS THREAD. Even if you take out my quote from the Haunted thread, it still doesn't mean the cat references and the :3 face you've made IN THIS THREAD does not link.
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Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
November 01 2010 14:07 GMT
#1819
Are you sure you are yourself though?

I know it reminded you of that but quoting other threads is not the best idea.
It's like if i saw you raging at terran in sc2 balance thread and quoted it saying it reminded me that you are rage filled and could easily be a serial killer.

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November 01 2010 14:08 GMT
#1820
what i mean is just saying it without having to quote another thread would of been fine.
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