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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On November 01 2010 23:08 Glasse wrote: what i mean is just saying it without having to quote another thread would of been fine. Then that's your own personal opinion. It doesn't change what I'm trying to point out. | ||
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Glasse
Canada1237 Posts
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On November 01 2010 22:48 jcarlsoniv wrote: It has already been confirmed by Artanis that Dr.H can be DT checked. For example, he should come back as Mayor Stick assuming he hasn't lied about his role. Thanks for clarifying. | ||
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Lexpar
1813 Posts
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Glasse
Canada1237 Posts
On November 01 2010 23:18 Lexpar wrote: Glasse give it a fucking rest. Cats love to rest, I am crazy cat though. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On November 01 2010 23:18 Lexpar wrote: Glasse give it a fucking rest. Lexpar, I would like if you responded to my post: On November 01 2010 22:39 jcarlsoniv wrote: I would like you to clarify for us. Why should we trust Dr.H? Give us a reason. Your posts thus far have been vague and largely unhelpful. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
On November 01 2010 22:52 Fishball wrote: I haven't said much yet, but I might as well clarify it here. I don't buy it. Seems like some players are misunderstanding this scenario. We can only prove DH's role ability, but that does not necessarily make him "blue" or town. Mafia can very well have this "Sticky" role too. The only way we can confirm DH's alignment, is if we can prove his poking ability, to prove he is not God Father, and have an alignment DT, if this role exist, check him. Did you understand what I mean though? If we can prove that he is able to poke people, AND not infect them, then it's quite positive that he's blue. Why? Because Mafia would not need a player who can "test" if people are infected, since they control the infection and already KNOW who is infected and who is not. It's really simple. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On November 01 2010 22:43 Amber[LighT] wrote: I'm not going to quote YM directly since he seems to be active (wow..). Why you so active? Day 1 you were hiding in the back not making many waves. Now you want to go after someone who has probably made a "newbie" mistake as though he's just stolen all of the cookies from the cookie jar. Look at your arguments, and look at other arguments. You're really gunning for someone who we don't really know enough about. And you're kinda throwing random discussion out. Sad to say this is typical of your "pro-town" play. It's also worth noting that we know you're not "just a townie" since you would usually play quiet until you're lynched, making yourself completely useless. How useful your being should determine your alignment... I apologise, I can try be more inactive just for you. What a great argument you have there. I've already said I was afk for basically all of day 1, are you seriously saying you can't see that? Probably made a 'newbie' mistake? It's a pretty huge mistake/scumtell if you looked at it carefully, I don't see why you're letting the cookie thief get away without even a slap on the wrist. I look at my arguments and then I look at the argument I threw out. Pandain and DrH going at it about how DrH has no way of proving he's innocent. Is this argument constructive? No, it will bring nothing new to the table. No analysis, except maybe Pandain's overeagerness of going for DrH. My arguments are designed to punish the liar, the person who got caught red handed in his 'one man hero attempt to save the bodyguard'. I'm still waiting for the counterargument and it's not coming. So yeah, I think I'll go ahead and gun him. I wasn't aware I had a style of being quiet until I'm lynched if I was just a townie. If you could direct me to a game where I did this, please do. Ditto for my typical 'pro-town' play. Oh yeah, how is it worth nothing I'm not 'just a townie'? You realise there are no 'just a townies' in this game, right? Or are you that inactive? I'd appreciate it if you stopped pulling idiotic arguments out. Thank you very much, | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On November 01 2010 23:44 Aeres wrote: ##Vote Aeres There's no redemption for me now. I made a bad move as an inexperienced player, and the town suffered because of it. I'm too much of a liability to keep alive, so I am voting for myself to smooth things out when I'm lynched. Again, I apologize for making such an audacious play. I clearly should have considered the ramifications of my actions better, and because I was hasty, the town is no better off than before. At best, I learned what not to do in a Mafia game. I don't expect to survive the day, so I'm taking the chance now to say good luck. I let you guys down, but I'm still rooting for you. I don't even... What? I've said time and time again I'm waiting for you to argue. I'm not 100% certain you're scum, I don't think anyone is, and you have this time to point out why we shouldn't lynch you. It is never, ever good town play to lynch yourself unless there's a special scenario/mechanic that directly helps town to do it. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On November 01 2010 23:50 youngminii wrote: I apologise, I can try be more inactive just for you. What a great argument you have there. I've already said I was afk for basically all of day 1, are you seriously saying you can't see that? Probably made a 'newbie' mistake? It's a pretty huge mistake/scumtell if you looked at it carefully, I don't see why you're letting the cookie thief get away without even a slap on the wrist. I look at my arguments and then I look at the argument I threw out. Pandain and DrH going at it about how DrH has no way of proving he's innocent. Is this argument constructive? No, it will bring nothing new to the table. No analysis, except maybe Pandain's overeagerness of going for DrH. My arguments are designed to punish the liar, the person who got caught red handed in his 'one man hero attempt to save the bodyguard'. I'm still waiting for the counterargument and it's not coming. So yeah, I think I'll go ahead and gun him. I wasn't aware I had a style of being quiet until I'm lynched if I was just a townie. If you could direct me to a game where I did this, please do. Ditto for my typical 'pro-town' play. Oh yeah, how is it worth nothing I'm not 'just a townie'? You realise there are no 'just a townies' in this game, right? Or are you that inactive? I'd appreciate it if you stopped pulling idiotic arguments out. Thank you very much, Well without putting much effort into outting you since you don't know yourself well enough, this was (what looks like) your end-post for Flamewheels game: On August 15 2010 23:09 youngminii wrote: I'm a bit sick of this game. I don't think I like playing town roles that much, I'm just not motivated to play, sorry about the afkness. I'm still trying to keep up with what's happening though. From what I can tell: Misder = mafia (confirmed) foolishness = mafia (in my eyes) So there go my votes. Reference Post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139517¤tpage=91#1811 Very apathetic. Not very engaging. Not really pushing with "evidence." You had this epiphany where you're going to use reason in your posts? I find it highly suspicious. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On November 01 2010 23:57 Amber[LighT] wrote: Well without putting much effort into outting you since you don't know yourself well enough, this was (what looks like) your end-post for Flamewheels game: Reference Post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139517¤tpage=91#1811 Very apathetic. Not very engaging. Not really pushing with "evidence." You had this epiphany where you're going to use reason in your posts? I find it highly suspicious. I was scum. Nice try though. Thanks for the 4000th  | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On November 01 2010 23:55 youngminii wrote: I don't even... What? I've said time and time again I'm waiting for you to argue. I'm not 100% certain you're scum, I don't think anyone is, and you have this time to point out why we shouldn't lynch you. It is never, ever good town play to lynch yourself unless there's a special scenario/mechanic that directly helps town to do it. Hold on, let's consider something for a second. Why would aeres do this? It doesn't really make sense to concede so easily. Dr.H has said he thinks Glasse could be Village Idiot, and is trying to get lynched. What if Aeres has a role like this? He knew he would be caught in the lie, and wants to get lynched. What happens when the village idiot does get lynched? And an even more important question: what implications could this have if this is a mafia role? | ||
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Glasse
Canada1237 Posts
On November 02 2010 00:33 jcarlsoniv wrote: Hold on, let's consider something for a second. Why would aeres do this? It doesn't really make sense to concede so easily. Dr.H has said he thinks Glasse could be Village Idiot, and is trying to get lynched. What if Aeres has a role like this? He knew he would be caught in the lie, and wants to get lynched. What happens when the village idiot does get lynched? And an even more important question: what implications could this have if this is a mafia role? If village idiot get lynched he, alone, wins the game. I'm not the village idiot Insania isnt even a village. :3 | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
On November 02 2010 00:33 jcarlsoniv wrote: Hold on, let's consider something for a second. Why would aeres do this? It doesn't really make sense to concede so easily. Dr.H has said he thinks Glasse could be Village Idiot, and is trying to get lynched. What if Aeres has a role like this? He knew he would be caught in the lie, and wants to get lynched. What happens when the village idiot does get lynched? And an even more important question: what implications could this have if this is a mafia role? It's not a matter of conceding easily. I simply have no defense for myself. I lied to try and protect the Doc, I failed, and I fucked up the game. If I saw a way out of the mess I put myself in, I'd pursue it, but I just cannot see how I would be able to, especially since I've essentially lost any semblance of trustworthiness. As for the Village Idiot idea, don't you think it's odd for a VI to have a role that encourages survival? Why would that happen? And why would a VI be allowed to vote for himself? That seems like an overpowered role to me. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 02 2010 00:41 Aeres wrote: It's not a matter of conceding easily. I simply have no defense for myself. I lied to try and protect the Doc, I failed, and I fucked up the game. If I saw a way out of the mess I put myself in, I'd pursue it, but I just cannot see how I would be able to, especially since I've essentially lost any semblance of trustworthiness. If you have no defense, is there someone else you can point blame on that would be a better alternative than yourself? If you are indeed town, then allowing yourself to be lynched so easily would be a much greater mistake than your fake role claim. | ||
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Glasse
Canada1237 Posts
:3 Why would you not be able to vote for yourself? I voted for myself because i'm scared of forgetting and i didnt want 30 people analysing me because i voted for someone. meow | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
On November 02 2010 00:50 kitaman27 wrote: If you have no defense, is there someone else you can point blame on that would be a better alternative than yourself? If you are indeed town, then allowing yourself to be lynched so easily would be a much greater mistake than your fake role claim. I suppose. I'll ponder it a bit. I agree with the previous sentiment that lurkers are something to consider. Of them, Kenpachi is the most notable, simply because he only speaks when people talk about him, and offers no insight into the game other than his weak dissuasions. He votes without justification, and has a history of doing so in past games. I dunno what Kenpachi is playing at, but I don't like it. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On November 02 2010 00:41 Aeres wrote: It's not a matter of conceding easily. I simply have no defense for myself. I lied to try and protect the Doc, I failed, and I fucked up the game. If I saw a way out of the mess I put myself in, I'd pursue it, but I just cannot see how I would be able to, especially since I've essentially lost any semblance of trustworthiness. As for the Village Idiot idea, don't you think it's odd for a VI to have a role that encourages survival? Why would that happen? And why would a VI be allowed to vote for himself? That seems like an overpowered role to me. See, but the thing is, not everyone is convinced you should be lynched. I know I'm not. You did a really stupid thing, we know that, and you have acknowledged it. However, I'm not about to bandwagon onto you because of it. I want to see how things develop over the next ~12 hours before I start making my decisions. But this makes me really question your motives. In what way does your role encourage survival, and why would we know that you are trying to survive, while at the same time trying to suicide? | ||
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Glasse
Canada1237 Posts
This is confusing purr :3 | ||
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