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chaoser
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chaoser
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On August 03 2010 06:49 chaoser wrote: Hey guys, just got back from philly, interview an late and took a detour to finally get some philly cheesesteak, I'm catching up in about 5 minutes, taking a shower first, been a long and tiring day x_x woke at 6 to drive over. Did well on my interview though so yay Glad you interview went well and hope you get the job. Here on the home front though, you are on trial and the court is eagerly awaiting your defense. But please do shower first as that smell is over powering the jurors  | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On August 03 2010 06:06 Protactinium wrote: To be honest, going back and reading things over I'm more amazed now that Chaoser hasn't died since he's had all that suspicion on him. I'm terrible at vote analysis, but it does seem that he was saved. Still though, it's now been 27 hours since he promised to post something. If he doesn't post something substantial soon, I'm going to switch my vote to him. I almost died day two and afterwards wayyy too much shit came up with everyone counterclaiming and saying they got hit and whatnot. Even if I was saved, I don't think mafia would stir (that word took me 1 minute to remember how to spell x_x) up some crazy plan that put both GF and a regular mafia in touble/killed just to save me. | ||
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chaoser
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chaoser
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On August 03 2010 06:19 Protactinium wrote: One thing I want to bring up: Click here. In case we've all forgotten, the scene where SouthRawrea claimed he was the Mad Hatter and had a single bomb... on Chaoser. Chaoser said he was all too willing to die to prove his innocence, but we know that SouthRawrea was, in fact, not the bomber, so Chaoser was never really in any danger, and would definitely have looked much better once SouthRawrea flipped red... I actually don't know how to respond to this. It's a conceivable plan to make me out to be more innocent after he flipped red if I was actually red but at that point I think I was just getting sick of youngminii getting on my back and I wanted to die so youngminii would lose the bet or something. Actually, I think I made that bet later. I think at the time I was willing to die with south cause he was counterclaiming citizen and it was just so out of the blue and his post when he first claimed was really scummy to me. so 1) If he was scum, I was still safe 2) If he wasn't I get to die and get youngminii off my back But then he claimed newbie and after a while tree.hugger was like I'm convinced and I started having doubts and since I've been in contact with him for a while and thought he was in a circle. When BC or whoever started to say that we get more info out of killing citizen, the argument made some sense to me and since earlier BC had claimed he got hit and saved, I was thinking the only way mafia could get a HUGE advantage off this is if BC was GF and there's no fucking way he'd be that lucky to get hit and saved AND be GF at the same time I trusted him. Turns out I was wrong. At this point I think I switched to citizen. I'm really not the type of player to get involved in super complex plans where I would do things to gain "innocence" for the town and then somehow take a leading role or even just hid. If you've seen my old games, most of the time I'm in the background either PMing people just asking for their opinions on people cause I feel like that's a decent way to get info and also trying to figure situations out so that it's not confusing to me or town. The one time I was mafia I think it was with pyrr and chenizu and I played martyr like crazy and when I went down in the end town was so confused they ended up losing. Pyrr on the other hand played a crazy good infil and basically had a list of all the blues by day 3 or 4 and we pretty much just picked them off at will. | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On August 03 2010 06:55 chaoser wrote: I almost died day two and afterwards wayyy too much shit came up with everyone counterclaiming and saying they got hit and whatnot. Even if I was saved, I don't think mafia would stir (that word took me 1 minute to remember how to spell x_x) up some crazy plan that put both GF and a regular mafia in touble/killed just to save me. Mafia DID put out a GF and a normal Mafia to get citi.zen lynched, so I wouldn't put it past them. I think though, that is was just a by product of citi.zen's claim, I don't think it was to clear you. BC had already started the distraction from the previous days vote when he claimed the hit at the start of the day. | ||
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chaoser
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I abstained day one cause I really didn't know who to vote, At first I didn't think BB was all that scummy and Foolishness wasn't scummy to me either. I ended up not voting just cause I didn't believe in my vote. If i felt like if I had voted for someone and then later I was asked why I voted I wouldn't be able to give a decent response to why except for that I wanted to vote someone instead of remaining abstaining and so i did. DTA: I voted him cause at the time it was either him or me that was going to die. I didn't think anyone of us was mafia near the end but it was too late to get people to switch off both of us and the day just ended with my vote on him. If you go over all the votes that day, you'll notice that votes changed about 3-4 times each i think for a lot of people. There was a clusterfuck that day. citizen: I bought BC's argument that there was more info to gain from citizen dying than south dying. plus citizen's late claim that he wasn't really MH when he said he was was a lie and that didn't sit too well with me. Plus south made decent claims that he was a newbie and I tusted treehugger's decision at that point I voted for both pan and tree at this point: Pan flipped red, easy vote. Tree I started to suspect just because 1) i felt like he was making less posts and 2) he was so sure, like 100% sure from the look of PMs, of youngminii and Sub but both of them were green/blue. I figured that the only way he would be so sure was if he had a DT in his group but all the DTs were accounted for so it just seemed really off. From: Amber[LighT] [ 3535 posts | Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Re: mafia Date: 7/29/10 23:28 On July 29 2010 23:26 chaoser wrote: From my PMs with tree.hugger early in the game, he led me to believe that he was in some sort of circle and that he was 100% sure that Sub and Young were mafia. Care to explain, tree? He told me the same exact thing. He was gunning for both of them and made it sound like he knew exactly what was going on. I'm all for lynching him today. ambe light's agreement sealed the deal for me so I voted him | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
After the blue roles were sniped the next target was Youngminii, who was the person trying the hardest to get Chaoser lynched the entire game. I propose that we lynch chaoser since he's pretty much next on my list. I know I was wrong about Infundibulum but we don't really have anyone better to lynch (unless you can come up with one), and chaoser was one of Zeks's leading suspects too. I actually didn't want youngminii to die cause we have a bet that if I flip red I'd have to do whatever he said and if I flipped green he would have to do whatever I said. I wanted him to lynch me and then I'd win bet. I feel like this is so wifom cause if i was mafia then I WOULDN'T kill him just to look more innocent? We later have Chaoser pushing strongly for Pandain, renewing suspicions. I feel bad for pandain flipping miller =[ we were in secret friendship alliance. And I didn't push strongly, I was pretty much saying what everyone else said, that he flipped red, he needed to be lynched just cause he flipped red. | ||
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
On August 03 2010 04:49 ~OpZ~ wrote: D3 had to of been hit by mafia. Stop throwing suspicion onto him. Tricode had ONE hit. He used it on BC. So d3 was med procted by roffles of sinquity. D3 is Town aligned, and you are most likely mafia or can't understand that mafia never stack hits day one. They only stack when they KNOW they are going to hit someone that is important. Hate to break it to you. Anyway, I'm more certain about some things now. Everyone, check your PMs. Upper left corner. I'm not throwing suspicion on d3, I was just wondering. Thats why I said that he was town aligned as the consensus, and I just wanted to know why. I got a PM from Pandain? Is that of importance? + Show Spoiler + On August 03 2010 05:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: You made a post recounting almost everything Foolishness said, leaving out his suspicions and ultimate vote for BC. Plus you didn't vote for him Day 4. Plus BC tried to establish you and zeks as innocent, except (unlike Zeks) people had a lot of reasons to be suspicious of you already and called out BC for calling you likely green. I thought I went through every single post that day. I'm sorry I didn't get everything. citi,zen already corrected me on my mistake; i get it. I wasn't the only one who didn't vote for BC. And even BB said that he almost didn't vote for him even after being very very against him. No one was suspicious of me until like 2 days ago... BC called zeks innocent. Just look at that. BC didn't know that zeks was the mad hatter that time. But hes a smart mafia player. If we had lynched BC before, we would have wasted a double lynch on lyching zeks the mad hatter and me the townie. Anyways, I'm taking my vote off of rastaban. My original suspicion was based on BC-rastaban pms an that I thought that BC made up a PM list for rastaban to send. But now that I think about it, it really does seem like rastaban is just a puppet. Its still smart on BC's part, and rastaban is making good analysis on chaoser, which I agree with. And the story fits in the overall picture. ##Unvote rastaban ##Vote pyrr Im voting for pyrr for four reasons. 1. his push on lynching DTA. It was he who started the bandwagon. People already was suspicious of DTA of his weird behavior, but it wasn't like he seemed mafia like. pyrr the mafia knew this, and it was a simple way to lynch a veteran (as in plays the game mafia a lot) without being suspicious. 2. DTA said to lynch him. 3. He himself is a veteran (at the game). He was kind of invisible throughout the game besides the lynching of DTA. 4. His voting sequence has been DTA, DTA, citi.zen, Pandain, Misder. 3 of these are dead townies, and I know I am a townie. | ||
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chaoser
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chaoser
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I'll try to answer every question that comes my way but i really DO need to shower now lol | ||
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Divinek
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On August 03 2010 07:28 chaoser wrote: And recently I've been unable to fully do much to help the town cause I've been prepping for medical school interviews that have been coming up so that's why I've been doing one liners and such. Msot of my spam was with Pan just cause I love playing with him ingame and in PM <3 Pandain, sorry I helped lynch you =[ well yeah dont let some silly game get in the way of the really important stuff but we really do want people putting forth a REAL effort whenever they get the chance bro! | ||
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Divinek
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at least chaoser can save himself if he so chooses | ||
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Protactinium
Canada550 Posts
On August 03 2010 07:11 chaoser wrote: I actually don't know how to respond to this. It's a conceivable plan to make me out to be more innocent after he flipped red if I was actually red but at that point I think I was just getting sick of youngminii getting on my back and I wanted to die so youngminii would lose the bet or something. Actually, I think I made that bet later. I think at the time I was willing to die with south cause he was counterclaiming citizen and it was just so out of the blue and his post when he first claimed was really scummy to me. so 1) If he was scum, I was still safe 2) If he wasn't I get to die and get youngminii off my back But then he claimed newbie and after a while tree.hugger was like I'm convinced and I started having doubts and since I've been in contact with him for a while and thought he was in a circle. When BC or whoever started to say that we get more info out of killing citizen, the argument made some sense to me and since earlier BC had claimed he got hit and saved, I was thinking the only way mafia could get a HUGE advantage off this is if BC was GF and there's no fucking way he'd be that lucky to get hit and saved AND be GF at the same time I trusted him. Turns out I was wrong. At this point I think I switched to citizen. I'm really not the type of player to get involved in super complex plans where I would do things to gain "innocence" for the town and then somehow take a leading role or even just hid. If you've seen my old games, most of the time I'm in the background either PMing people just asking for their opinions on people cause I feel like that's a decent way to get info and also trying to figure situations out so that it's not confusing to me or town. The one time I was mafia I think it was with pyrr and chenizu and I played martyr like crazy and when I went down in the end town was so confused they ended up losing. Pyrr on the other hand played a crazy good infil and basically had a list of all the blues by day 3 or 4 and we pretty much just picked them off at will. I went back and read some of your past games and you seem right... but then you have been town. Just because you say you're not the type of player who does these kinds of mental games doesn't mean it can't happen; WiFOM remember? Also, if you were part of the Mafia team you wouldn't have to have worried about it, since it seems like everything was orchestrated by BloodyC0bbler. I don't doubt the youngminii thing since he was going after you hard, but it does seem like a very convenient thing to say... I'm still not very convinced, sorry. ##Vote: Chaoser I will be back later to check. This isn't final, but I do want you to talk more. Also: where is BrownBear? He said he'd be back to listen to Chaoser but I haven't seen him in a while. | ||
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Protactinium
Canada550 Posts
##Vote: BrownBear until he comes back to do some talking. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On August 03 2010 07:26 Misder wrote: + Show Spoiler + On August 03 2010 04:49 ~OpZ~ wrote: D3 had to of been hit by mafia. Stop throwing suspicion onto him. Tricode had ONE hit. He used it on BC. So d3 was med procted by roffles of sinquity. D3 is Town aligned, and you are most likely mafia or can't understand that mafia never stack hits day one. They only stack when they KNOW they are going to hit someone that is important. Hate to break it to you. Anyway, I'm more certain about some things now. Everyone, check your PMs. Upper left corner. I'm not throwing suspicion on d3, I was just wondering. Thats why I said that he was town aligned as the consensus, and I just wanted to know why. I got a PM from Pandain? Is that of importance? + Show Spoiler + On August 03 2010 05:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: You made a post recounting almost everything Foolishness said, leaving out his suspicions and ultimate vote for BC. Plus you didn't vote for him Day 4. Plus BC tried to establish you and zeks as innocent, except (unlike Zeks) people had a lot of reasons to be suspicious of you already and called out BC for calling you likely green. I thought I went through every single post that day. I'm sorry I didn't get everything. citi,zen already corrected me on my mistake; i get it. I wasn't the only one who didn't vote for BC. And even BB said that he almost didn't vote for him even after being very very against him. No one was suspicious of me until like 2 days ago... BC called zeks innocent. Just look at that. BC didn't know that zeks was the mad hatter that time. But hes a smart mafia player. If we had lynched BC before, we would have wasted a double lynch on lyching zeks the mad hatter and me the townie. Anyways, I'm taking my vote off of rastaban. My original suspicion was based on BC-rastaban pms an that I thought that BC made up a PM list for rastaban to send. But now that I think about it, it really does seem like rastaban is just a puppet. Its still smart on BC's part, and rastaban is making good analysis on chaoser, which I agree with. And the story fits in the overall picture. ##Unvote rastaban ##Vote pyrr Im voting for pyrr for four reasons. 1. his push on lynching DTA. It was he who started the bandwagon. People already was suspicious of DTA of his weird behavior, but it wasn't like he seemed mafia like. pyrr the mafia knew this, and it was a simple way to lynch a veteran (as in plays the game mafia a lot) without being suspicious. 2. DTA said to lynch him. 3. He himself is a veteran (at the game). He was kind of invisible throughout the game besides the lynching of DTA. 4. His voting sequence has been DTA, DTA, citi.zen, Pandain, Misder. 3 of these are dead townies, and I know I am a townie. 1. DTA had to be lynched and if you remember correctly YOU started the day 2 bandwagon on him because my post about DTA started with me quoting YOUR post against him using Foolishness's posts (which also left out posts about BC). 2. And how was youngminii's list? More townies than reds at this point. Who knows what DTA would think if he was still in the game - we have to play from what we know now. 3. I have been active the entire game. 4. 3/4 of them had been caught lying: DTA soft claiming blue (I realize some of you don't agree with this, tough), Citizen claiming blue, now you trying to say about DTA "it wasn't like he seemed mafia like" when you were the first to vote against him day 2 - refusing responsibility for your own role and trying to push it all on to me. Pandain flipped red. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 03 2010 08:49 Protactinium wrote: No, I just realized that was the fifth vote on Chaoser. ##Vote: BrownBear until he comes back to do some talking. technically you have to unvote until you can move your vote, i think | ||
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