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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
L, it's time for you to roleclaim. If you are NOT a faction leader, then who are you? I'd like to know your name + role. That would at least lend you a bit more credibility.
My initial feelings are this: Tricode believes he is telling the truth, and I'm have a hard time imagining why he would lie, if L is not a faction leader. Can someone please tell me what Tricode's motivation would be to lie about L being a faction leader??
Xelin has been awfully quit, and I think it's time for you to claim as well. If you are a leader I sure as hell hope you didn't recruit me last night and then not tell me about it. I'd be seriously pissed if you get daykilled and I go down with you....
Also, if you roleblocked me you should let me know. Via PM or whatever, because that is important info pertaining to what I did last night.
Also, it seems with the clusterfuck that happened last night at L's house, we can't really draw any meaningful conclusions because of Hesmyrr's role. It's inconceivable that that many people could be lying at this stage in the game.
Hesmyrr, I like your plan, but I think your putting too much emphasis on your interpretation of your role. Obviously people got notified last night of actions that went down at L's house, so your power is slightly different than you imagined. It's very possible that Tricode did in fact get off an accurate role check. For now I still think we should kill L. Unless he offers up roleclaim and it turns out to be somewhat legit.
Tricode, if you were insane or paranoid, you absolutely would NOT be informed in your role PM. That's how it works. I'm still not sure how a role cop can be insane/paranoid though? He would just get a random role or something?
On May 22 2010 05:28 XeliN wrote: Rad no doubt your wondering "What did XeliN do to me in the night?!"
Let's just say the lubricant, beads and assortment of Barry Manilou CD's didn't just materialise overnight. Also the headache's and grogginess should wear off soon.
Was it good for you at least.....?
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Well, hesmyrr claimed that you visited radfield, a claim which you admitted was correct. Enough people have claimed their roles that it doesn't seem to demanding to ask you what role you used on radfield so that we can put this issue behind us quickly. My personal opinion, you're just stalling for time trying to figure out a convincing role to claim as and trying to find a ROTK character to attribute it to that wouldn't already have been taken.
I'm most likely overthinking this, but the way I see it, you were outted as having some power/possibly FL, if you're a tracker/DT you could out and confirm yourself with relative ease considering the mechanics of the game, but you choose to stall for time with gay jokes and asking why you're a good lynch candidate when it's already been said (maybe not directly, but it's pretty easy to figure out why people would think this based on the evidence).
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I probably should've quoted him, but yeah, that post was directed at xelin.
Oh, and btw, do you play on epicmafia? I could've sworn I saw you in a room a few days ago.
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Rad surely if I recruited you anonymously you would still be told you had been recruited into a team. As you consider it a possibility that I recruited you does that mean you have been anonymously been recruited into a team?
As far as I know when you are recruited the only thing that can be held back is the name of the leader who recruited you. You ought be careful what you let slip out Mr Radfield, I told you that last night, but you probably don't remember.
I am Jian Wei, the Tactician and I can Roleblock. I chose you as you seemed giddy with power and quite dangerous.
+ Show Spoiler + It started off well and good, but then this masked man came in and grabbed you saying "He is mine....!" and branded you with a colour, but I can't remember which.....
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Damn, another roleblocker. If things aren't complicant already...
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On May 22 2010 05:53 XeliN wrote:Rad surely if I recruited you anonymously you would still be told you had been recruited into a team. As you consider it a possibility that I recruited you does that mean you have been anonymously been recruited into a team? As far as I know when you are recruited the only thing that can be held back is the name of the leader who recruited you. You ought be careful what you let slip out Mr Radfield, I told you that last night, but you probably don't remember. I am Jian Wei, the Tactician and I can Roleblock. I chose you as you seemed giddy with power and quite dangerous. + Show Spoiler + It started off well and good, but then this masked man came in and grabbed you saying "He is mine....!" and branded you with a colour, but I can't remember which.....
Caller clarified that it's up to the leaders whether or not the member gets notified. Which means people might have been recruited last night who right now have no idea they are part of a faction.
Roleblocking... is that what the kids are calling it these days?? I appreciate you bringing the lube though....
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On May 22 2010 05:46 Radfield wrote:L, it's time for you to roleclaim. If you are NOT a faction leader, then who are you? I'd like to know your name + role. That would at least lend you a bit more credibility. My initial feelings are this: Tricode believes he is telling the truth, and I'm have a hard time imagining why he would lie, if L is not a faction leader. Can someone please tell me what Tricode's motivation would be to lie about L being a faction leader?? Xelin has been awfully quit, and I think it's time for you to claim as well. If you are a leader I sure as hell hope you didn't recruit me last night and then not tell me about it. I'd be seriously pissed if you get daykilled and I go down with you.... Also, if you roleblocked me you should let me know. Via PM or whatever, because that is important info pertaining to what I did last night. Also, it seems with the clusterfuck that happened last night at L's house, we can't really draw any meaningful conclusions because of Hesmyrr's role. It's inconceivable that that many people could be lying at this stage in the game. Hesmyrr, I like your plan, but I think your putting too much emphasis on your interpretation of your role. Obviously people got notified last night of actions that went down at L's house, so your power is slightly different than you imagined. It's very possible that Tricode did in fact get off an accurate role check. For now I still think we should kill L. Unless he offers up roleclaim and it turns out to be somewhat legit. Tricode, if you were insane or paranoid, you absolutely would NOT be informed in your role PM. That's how it works. I'm still not sure how a role cop can be insane/paranoid though? He would just get a random role or something? Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 05:28 XeliN wrote: Rad no doubt your wondering "What did XeliN do to me in the night?!"
Let's just say the lubricant, beads and assortment of Barry Manilou CD's didn't just materialise overnight. Also the headache's and grogginess should wear off soon. Was it good for you at least.....? I kinda have a poison pill role that'll be useless if I tell people what it is, so its your call if you want to know.
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Oh and I wasn't stalling you can ask L, I already roleclaimed to him way back in the long, long ago so he can confirm the "stalling for time to think up a role to use" is not true. Although as I am supporting his lynch he might not be obliged to co-operate.
To elaborate on this, essentially I contacted L asking if he wanted to team up in this game, seemed like it might be fun//worthwhile trying to get a small group of people who are all working together behind the scenes, irrespective of who recruits them e.t.c the entire game they will be working to make it so they end up winning. He seemed less than enthusiastic about the notion however, and the way he responded made me think he had a leadershippy role.
I've played a few times on epicmafia yeah ^^, not played many games there but can be fun to kill some time.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
A few notes on our friendly neiborhood lurkers/inactives/spammers:
Johnnyspazz: Spamming and lurking, hasn't made a real post all game
Ohn: Lurking hardcore, pops out immediatly after posts to clarify/comment and then disappears. Adds nothing of his own.
MyheroNoob: Completely inactive
DarthTheinAn: Still lurking
Jugan: Pretty much just spamming. He mentions the YTs in pretty much every post.
If this were regular mafia, I'd be looking real hard at Jspazz and Ohn. But as it is.,....,
Anyways, just wanted to point these folks out.
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On May 22 2010 06:00 XeliN wrote: Oh and I wasn't stalling you can ask L, I already roleclaimed to him way back in the long, long ago so he can confirm the "stalling for time to think up a role to use" is not true. Although as I am supporting his lynch he might not be obliged to co-operate.
To elaborate on this, essentially I contacted L asking if he wanted to team up in this game, seemed like it might be fun//worthwhile trying to get a small group of people who are all working together behind the scenes, irrespective of who recruits them e.t.c the entire game they will be working to make it so they end up winning. He seemed less than enthusiastic about the notion however, and the way he responded made me think he had a leadershippy role.
I've played a few times on epicmafia yeah ^^, not played many games there but can be fun to kill some time. You were pretty much like "You're a cool guy, lets be friends" and I was like "k" because I never talk much behind the scenes to people that aren't confirmed.
I dunno how that has to do anything with the roleblocker claim.
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Did I claim Roleblocker to you back when I PM'd you, yes or no?
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On May 22 2010 06:10 XeliN wrote: Did I claim Roleblocker to you back when I PM'd you, yes or no? Lemme check
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I'm a tactician who can see through Zuge and Suma (whatever the fuck that means, you one of those characters?) and thus can basically roleblock anyone at night. Yep you did.
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Ok cool, only wanted to address Falcynns idea that I was stalling for time in order to think up a role, that hopefully does so.
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On May 22 2010 05:46 Radfield wrote:
Tricode, if you were insane or paranoid, you absolutely would NOT be informed in your role PM. That's how it works. I'm still not sure how a role cop can be insane/paranoid though? He would just get a random role or something?
Well if I'm insane or not, no better way of proving then by killing L since I checked him and he showed up to me as faction leader by his abilities.
Making L even more of a prime candidate. Also either case let's say I am insane or w/e and then Town kills me and I showed to be DT, it will let other Dt's know that there is a possibility of this insanity.
Though I am doubting I'm insane we only have things benefiting everyone by killing L.
I'm still highly doubtful I'm insane. Though we will see after L's death and worse case scenario L's death then my Death.
Either scenario L needs to die for a whole lot of information to be revealed and that when it is shown he is a Faction Leader we get total benefits and nothing to lose!
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Except the part where you getting a rolecheck back is impossible because of the night action blocker.
That part's kinda important because it suggests you aren't a DT at all.
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What a clusterfuck. At least after the day is over and we have killed someone, we will know a lot more about who is and who isn't lying....
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Well, since everyone else has namedropped in the past several pages, I might as well namedrop myself:
I am Zhao Yun. I have the power of nightkill ^^
So with all the people who have roleclaimed, I think rather than looking at the people who have roleclaimed and analyzing to see if they're lying, it would be far more interesting to look at the people who HAVEN'T yet roleclaimed. They are:
1. Bill Murray 3. johnnyspazz 4. Radfield 5. Scamp 6. Ohn 7. Falcynn 8. Iaaan 9. L (states he has reasons for not doing so, since his role is a "poison pill") 10. BloodyCobbler 11. MyHeroNoob 15. TwotoneTerran 19. Trezequet23 20. Fishball (pretty sure the Qin Shi Huang roleclaim was a joke ) 21. Lunardestiny 23. DarthThienAn 24. Jugan
This is a (mostly accurate) list of the people who are still alive and have yet to roleclaim. It's far more likely that at least 1 or 2 of the faction leaders are hiding in the majority of people who don't roleclaim, rather than trying to lie and make up both a name, a role for that name, and reasoning behind that role.
Honestly? I think at this point in the game, it would be a good idea to have everyone roleclaim, complete with their name. Then, we can focus on the people who either refuse to roleclaim, or make roleclaims that don't really make sense.
Also, L, I understand you don't want to roleclaim, but especially with XeliN having claimed a role, that's putting you kinda back in the spotlight. It would be great if you could explain somehow either why your role would be useless if everyone knew about it, or if you could just roleclaim. If I win the dayvote, I will be sure to follow the will of the town, but the will of the town might be falling against you if you continue to be coy with your role.
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i don't see how my claiming will benefit the town. if enough veterans feel i need to, i will.
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