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Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 22:00:39
April 13 2010 21:53 GMT
#61
On April 14 2010 05:13 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 04:28 Qatol wrote:
On April 14 2010 04:09 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Disregard....Forgot my Finals/End of Term/HW/Needing a book read by Tuesday...

Thanks so much for doing this! Can't devote enough time to play seriously = sitting it out. So nice to see.


You yourself are around the thread enough, while not even playing in it, to actually play more competently than most of the people who play. Furthermore, in the small amount of what you devote, due to the time it takes you being disproportionate in relation to the time required of others to build cases taking into acount the discrepancy in skill level, you really should play.
you could still be among the best players even when devoting less time.

When I play seriously, this is a lot bigger of a timesink than I'm putting in now. I don't like to play anything less than seriously when I'm playing though. If I do, things just don't turn out well. As far as my skill level goes, I think I'm probably going to be rusty and not as good as people give me credit for (skill levels have increased since I played last and I'm not entirely sure how far I can push people), but I guess I won't complain if I get the Ace treatment.

My exams are next week and the week after, which will be during game time. There literally is no way the timing of this game could be any worse as far as getting me to play goes.

On April 14 2010 06:23 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 05:41 flamewheel91 wrote:
On April 14 2010 05:13 Bill Murray wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [not pertinent to my response] +
everyone is an assassin

here's what we're going to do:

The first half of the list is required to assassinate the 2nd half of the list. The list will be inverted the next day so everyone will get their turn to kill someone if they are an assassin. They won't want to be using their kills up every single night anyways, as they can use a Detective Check on the alternate night. I will be cutting the game list into a 1/2 order. 1s are killers, 2s are killees. It will switch the next night. If you are a killer or a killee, don't complain. In all likelihood you won't have to kill or be killed, as we are not sure how many assassins there are. If the mafia kill a killee in the night, we skip a lynch to balance it (hypothetically), but if they kill a killer then we will lynch the killee of the person that they killed the killer of. I hope this is making sense to you. If anyone has any questions about the Bill Murray plan of town success let me know. This plan will help the town as it will be putting mafia players in vulnerable "killee" positions in which they would potentially lynch the "killer". We use the assassins to win as a town. They COUNT as town people, so assassins will want the town to win. It will also be giving them chances to win the game for theirselves through killing other assassins and finding assassins that they can kill at any time during the night that we aren't asking them to kill for us. If they find an assassin, they can breadcrumb a message to us previously or something to let us know BEFORE they do the action that they will be killing an alternate person (this will guarantee that they stay town as we let them go towards their goal while we go towards our goal together). I don't want assassins to claim at first, but it will become obvious after the first 2 cycles on who they are anyways, so we can be a lot more organized after the first couple day/night cycles.

On April 14 2010 04:28 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 04:09 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Disregard....Forgot my Finals/End of Term/HW/Needing a book read by Tuesday...

Thanks so much for doing this! Can't devote enough time to play seriously = sitting it out. So nice to see.


You yourself are around the thread enough, while not even playing in it, to actually play more competently than most of the people who play. Furthermore, in the small amount of what you devote, due to the time it takes you being disproportionate in relation to the time required of others to build cases taking into acount the discrepancy in skill level, you really should play.
you could still be among the best players even when devoting less time.

On April 14 2010 05:04 Foolishness wrote:
If one of the assassins wins (i.e. all but one assassin are dead) does the game end? Or does it keep playing out until one of mafia/town win?


I hope the latter.

On April 14 2010 04:50 Jugan wrote:
instead of a picture of lightning you should have a picture of a goat.


african or european?

i promise consolidation if you let me edit

No.
On April 14 2010 05:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On April 14 2010 05:04 Foolishness wrote:
If one of the assassins wins (i.e. all but one assassin are dead) does the game end? Or does it keep playing out until one of mafia/town win?


better question is, does the assassin have to kill the other ones to win, or does it count of the town lynches one.

As long as he's the last one of them alive.


You still didn't answer whether the game ends or not

That's still a work in progress. Come back later!
Uff Da
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
April 13 2010 21:53 GMT
#62
Watch Foolishness be mafia for the 4th time in a row. I would lol. (:
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
April 13 2010 22:04 GMT
#63
You know what? Let's do this. I'm in.
Cheese is good for you!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
April 13 2010 22:11 GMT
#64
Yea, and if the game doesn't end, does the assasin have to stay alive for the remainder of the game?
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
April 13 2010 22:15 GMT
#65
I'd like to sign up.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
April 13 2010 22:25 GMT
#66
On April 14 2010 07:11 CynanMachae wrote:
Yea, and if the game doesn't end, does the assasin have to stay alive for the remainder of the game?

No. It will either be the assassin is taken out of the game upon winning or the game ends. Still working through the implications of each.
Uff Da
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 13 2010 22:49 GMT
#67
The game should not end if an assassin wins. Otherwise the mafia and town could lose based on events that are very hard for them to control.

If the game ended with a loss for mafia and town if an assassin wins, then the town and mafia have to prevent assassins from successfully killing each other, or somehow engineer a night where all the remaining assassins die simultaneously. Not only is either of these a very difficult task, they both are major diversions to both the town and mafia's primary goal.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 23:01:09
April 13 2010 23:00 GMT
#68
On April 14 2010 07:49 Zona wrote:
The game should not end if an assassin wins. Otherwise the mafia and town could lose based on events that are very hard for them to control.

If the game ended with a loss for mafia and town if an assassin wins, then the town and mafia have to prevent assassins from successfully killing each other, or somehow engineer a night where all the remaining assassins die simultaneously. Not only is either of these a very difficult task, they both are major diversions to both the town and mafia's primary goal.

That is one of the considerations. The other is that we don't want the assassins to feel like they have a useless role (kinda like the VI which was just taken out of the game in Caller's first 2 games). Either way, if the game ends when they win, there will be more assassins in the game to try and mitigate the concerns you talked about.
Uff Da
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
April 13 2010 23:23 GMT
#69
On April 13 2010 11:22 flamewheel91 wrote:
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i.e. if Abenson is lynched with six hours to go, the night will not begin until those six hours have run their course. This is to prevent completely screwing up time cycles, since TL is a worldwide community, and people can't be here all at the same time.


:O
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-14 00:08:06
April 14 2010 00:05 GMT
#70
On April 14 2010 06:23 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 05:41 flamewheel91 wrote:
On April 14 2010 05:13 Bill Murray wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [not pertinent to my response] +
everyone is an assassin

here's what we're going to do:

The first half of the list is required to assassinate the 2nd half of the list. The list will be inverted the next day so everyone will get their turn to kill someone if they are an assassin. They won't want to be using their kills up every single night anyways, as they can use a Detective Check on the alternate night. I will be cutting the game list into a 1/2 order. 1s are killers, 2s are killees. It will switch the next night. If you are a killer or a killee, don't complain. In all likelihood you won't have to kill or be killed, as we are not sure how many assassins there are. If the mafia kill a killee in the night, we skip a lynch to balance it (hypothetically), but if they kill a killer then we will lynch the killee of the person that they killed the killer of. I hope this is making sense to you. If anyone has any questions about the Bill Murray plan of town success let me know. This plan will help the town as it will be putting mafia players in vulnerable "killee" positions in which they would potentially lynch the "killer". We use the assassins to win as a town. They COUNT as town people, so assassins will want the town to win. It will also be giving them chances to win the game for theirselves through killing other assassins and finding assassins that they can kill at any time during the night that we aren't asking them to kill for us. If they find an assassin, they can breadcrumb a message to us previously or something to let us know BEFORE they do the action that they will be killing an alternate person (this will guarantee that they stay town as we let them go towards their goal while we go towards our goal together). I don't want assassins to claim at first, but it will become obvious after the first 2 cycles on who they are anyways, so we can be a lot more organized after the first couple day/night cycles.

On April 14 2010 04:28 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 04:09 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Disregard....Forgot my Finals/End of Term/HW/Needing a book read by Tuesday...

Thanks so much for doing this! Can't devote enough time to play seriously = sitting it out. So nice to see.


You yourself are around the thread enough, while not even playing in it, to actually play more competently than most of the people who play. Furthermore, in the small amount of what you devote, due to the time it takes you being disproportionate in relation to the time required of others to build cases taking into acount the discrepancy in skill level, you really should play.
you could still be among the best players even when devoting less time.

On April 14 2010 05:04 Foolishness wrote:
If one of the assassins wins (i.e. all but one assassin are dead) does the game end? Or does it keep playing out until one of mafia/town win?


I hope the latter.

On April 14 2010 04:50 Jugan wrote:
instead of a picture of lightning you should have a picture of a goat.


african or european?

i promise consolidation if you let me edit

No.
On April 14 2010 05:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On April 14 2010 05:04 Foolishness wrote:
If one of the assassins wins (i.e. all but one assassin are dead) does the game end? Or does it keep playing out until one of mafia/town win?


better question is, does the assassin have to kill the other ones to win, or does it count of the town lynches one.

As long as he's the last one of them alive.


You still didn't answer whether the game ends or not

Oh, sorry. The game continues for town and mafia.
Edit: this may still change.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 14 2010 00:06 GMT
#71
madnessman, are you going to play?
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
April 14 2010 00:27 GMT
#72
On April 14 2010 06:53 madnessman wrote:
Watch Foolishness be mafia for the 4th time in a row. I would lol. (:

Yeah, jesus christ, especially considering all the modkills I had to deal with the first two games.

On the other hand, it was kinda awesome in Incognito's game how I beat the other mafia team even though my mafia team had more members modkilled than the other.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 14 2010 01:24 GMT
#73
On April 14 2010 05:01 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 04:50 Jugan wrote:
instead of a picture of lightning you should have a picture of a goat.

Err?


FEAR THE LIGHTNING yeah man i get it, but it's so common. FEAR THE GOAT... now THAT is wicked, scary, confusing, dark, AND mysterious.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 14 2010 02:05 GMT
#74
On April 14 2010 10:24 Jugan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 05:01 citi.zen wrote:
On April 14 2010 04:50 Jugan wrote:
instead of a picture of lightning you should have a picture of a goat.

Err?


FEAR THE LIGHTNING yeah man i get it, but it's so common. FEAR THE GOAT... now THAT is wicked, scary, confusing, dark, AND mysterious.

No goat, I'm afraid.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
April 14 2010 02:40 GMT
#75
On April 14 2010 09:27 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 06:53 madnessman wrote:
Watch Foolishness be mafia for the 4th time in a row. I would lol. (:


On the other hand, it was kinda awesome in Incognito's game how I beat the other mafia team even though my mafia team had more members modkilled than the other.


haha yeah, Gambinos weren't trying at all though
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 14 2010 03:34 GMT
#76
do you plan on starting relatively close to when we get 25, or waiting to see if we can get a few more after that?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 14 2010 04:30 GMT
#77
/in
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 14 2010 04:52 GMT
#78
shit just got real
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
April 14 2010 04:55 GMT
#79
oh shite ace is playing better get your game face on
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
April 14 2010 05:08 GMT
#80
On April 14 2010 13:55 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
oh shite ace is playing better, get your game face on


On April 14 2010 13:55 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
oh shite ace is playing, better get your game face on


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