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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 21 2010 18:19 GMT
#581
On January 22 2010 02:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Has anyone considered the whole possibility that the mafia doesn't even have a candidate?

We've been going on this whole shitstorm assuming someone running for office is red.

The mafia could see that and just think "well wouldn't it really fuck with them if none of us ran? They'll tear each other apart and probably end up lynching their elected candidates"

That's kind what is happening too.


Well, the mayor or sheriff cannot be role checked by a detective. Also, they can put people in jail (to silence or protect them) and they get extra votes. So it seems pretty valuable for the mob to have elected official(s).

Running with "mob support" could be easier if you can build some sort of critical mass + confusion and wait for people to bandwagon. I am not saying that is what happened, just that it would be worth a shot, if you were the mob.

Finally, removing non-mob officials from office is hard for the mob initially, because the bodyguards are alive. So if they do not get elected, the mob could have to live with an "honest" official for a while.

Just a few thoughts. Of course, there is a chance I am wrong and they were indeed very patient.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
January 21 2010 18:20 GMT
#582
Do you all really wanna solve the world crisis in one day?

Maybe taking a random random on the first day wasn't that much without merit after all. We could use a hat with stripes of paper and all.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
January 21 2010 18:20 GMT
#583
What kind of detective would claim after day 1? That doesn't seem very practical at all, even if you have a mafia identity confirmed.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 21 2010 18:25 GMT
#584
Even if we did have a detective rolechecking, the mafia would probably whack him pretty fast.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 21 2010 18:26 GMT
#585
On January 22 2010 03:19 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 02:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Has anyone considered the whole possibility that the mafia doesn't even have a candidate?

We've been going on this whole shitstorm assuming someone running for office is red.

The mafia could see that and just think "well wouldn't it really fuck with them if none of us ran? They'll tear each other apart and probably end up lynching their elected candidates"

That's kind what is happening too.


Well, the mayor or sheriff cannot be role checked by a detective. Also, they can put people in jail (to silence or protect them) and they get extra votes. So it seems pretty valuable for the mob to have elected official(s).

Running with "mob support" could be easier if you can build some sort of critical mass + confusion and wait for people to bandwagon. I am not saying that is what happened, just that it would be worth a shot, if you were the mob.

Finally, removing non-mob officials from office is hard for the mob initially, because the bodyguards are alive. So if they do not get elected, the mob could have to live with an "honest" official for a while.

Just a few thoughts. Of course, there is a chance I am wrong and they were indeed very patient.


Right. I'm just proposing the possibility, we should consider everything before jumping to conclusions.

Personally, I think it's likely that at least one of the candidates is mafia. Which includes:

Myself
t_co
Meeple
citi.zen
Nikoner
Ng5
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 21 2010 18:26 GMT
#586
did we have any other candidates?
RIP Aaliyah
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 21 2010 18:31 GMT
#587
789
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
January 21 2010 18:41 GMT
#588
You guys are so lucky that you're so far ahead than us. But it still doesn't make you guys superior than our town. We got the goods! ^_^
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
January 21 2010 20:11 GMT
#589
I've been thinking, how can we find confirmed innocents to help coordinate town?

Detectives can sort of confirm an innocent with a rolecheck. It could still be the godfather though.

Medics can confirm someone by saving that person.

Are there any other ways?
Caution! Future approaching rapidly at a rate of about 60 seconds per minute.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 21 2010 20:11 GMT
#590
I think it's more prudent to lynch t_co first. There were a lot of good points brought up earlier regarding how lynching Hobbes will get us nowhere, and at the very least we'll get some information from t_co's lynch. At this point, I think that's more valuable than lynching a maybe mafia that wouldn't reduce their KP at all.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 21 2010 20:13 GMT
#591
On January 22 2010 05:11 Phrujbaz wrote:
I've been thinking, how can we find confirmed innocents to help coordinate town?

Detectives can sort of confirm an innocent with a rolecheck. It could still be the godfather though.

Medics can confirm someone by saving that person.

Are there any other ways?


Good questions but not sure I have any answers. For example, the medic could inadvertently save a lynched mobster, no?
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 21 2010 20:14 GMT
#592
Or a killed on - remember the mob can kill their own guy. If they did AND the medic saved them, they'd be in great shape.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 21 2010 20:18 GMT
#593
On January 22 2010 05:13 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 05:11 Phrujbaz wrote:
I've been thinking, how can we find confirmed innocents to help coordinate town?

Detectives can sort of confirm an innocent with a rolecheck. It could still be the godfather though.

Medics can confirm someone by saving that person.

Are there any other ways?


Good questions but not sure I have any answers. For example, the medic could inadvertently save a lynched mobster, no?


Medics can't save anyone from being lynched.
RIP Aaliyah
t_co
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States702 Posts
January 21 2010 20:18 GMT
#594
On January 22 2010 05:14 citi.zen wrote:
Or a killed on - remember the mob can kill their own guy. If they did AND the medic saved them, they'd be in great shape.


Actually mafia can't kill their own.
"Look, don't congratulate us when we buy a company, congratulate us when we sell it. Because any fool can overpay and buy a company, so long as there is money to buy it." --Henry Kravis
dreamflower
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States312 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 20:20:05
January 21 2010 20:19 GMT
#595
On January 22 2010 05:13 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 05:11 Phrujbaz wrote:
I've been thinking, how can we find confirmed innocents to help coordinate town?

Detectives can sort of confirm an innocent with a rolecheck. It could still be the godfather though.

Medics can confirm someone by saving that person.

Are there any other ways?


Good questions but not sure I have any answers. For example, the medic could inadvertently save a lynched mobster, no?


Medics cannot save anyone from being lynched. They can only save people from dying during the night, and lynches happen in the daytime.

On January 22 2010 05:18 t_co wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 05:14 citi.zen wrote:
Or a killed on - remember the mob can kill their own guy. If they did AND the medic saved them, they'd be in great shape.


Actually mafia can't kill their own.


Mafia can kill their own members, if they choose.
"When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers." -Oscar Wilde
t_co
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States702 Posts
January 21 2010 20:24 GMT
#596
On January 22 2010 05:19 dreamflower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 05:13 citi.zen wrote:
On January 22 2010 05:11 Phrujbaz wrote:
I've been thinking, how can we find confirmed innocents to help coordinate town?

Detectives can sort of confirm an innocent with a rolecheck. It could still be the godfather though.

Medics can confirm someone by saving that person.

Are there any other ways?


Good questions but not sure I have any answers. For example, the medic could inadvertently save a lynched mobster, no?


Medics cannot save anyone from being lynched. They can only save people from dying during the night, and lynches happen in the daytime.

Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 05:18 t_co wrote:
On January 22 2010 05:14 citi.zen wrote:
Or a killed on - remember the mob can kill their own guy. If they did AND the medic saved them, they'd be in great shape.


Actually mafia can't kill their own.


Mafia can kill their own members, if they choose.


But wouldn't that be fairly obvious, since the night description would have 2 people teaming up to kill a red?
"Look, don't congratulate us when we buy a company, congratulate us when we sell it. Because any fool can overpay and buy a company, so long as there is money to buy it." --Henry Kravis
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 21 2010 20:26 GMT
#597
I can't wait for the first night - exciting stuff!
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
dreamflower
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States312 Posts
January 21 2010 20:27 GMT
#598
No, Mafia members only need one hit to be killed, unless they have medic protection. Only veterans or people with medic protection need more than one hit to be killed.
"When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers." -Oscar Wilde
Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
January 21 2010 20:33 GMT
#599
I just realized that a medic cannot be absolutely sure either. He could save someone from a vigilante hit.
Caution! Future approaching rapidly at a rate of about 60 seconds per minute.
Ser Aspi
Profile Joined January 2010
France84 Posts
January 21 2010 20:43 GMT
#600
On January 22 2010 02:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Has anyone considered the whole possibility that the mafia doesn't even have a candidate?

We've been going on this whole shitstorm assuming someone running for office is red.

The mafia could see that and just think "well wouldn't it really fuck with them if none of us ran? They'll tear each other apart and probably end up lynching their elected candidates"

That's kind what is happening too.


I agree with this. Great thinking DoctorH! We have to be careful about killing ourselves early on

Let's think about t_co's actions from his own perspective. If he is mafia, what does he have to gain from putting himself in the open like that as well as suggesting we lynch the mayor and using an RNG setup to win. Not only does this draw a lot of attention to himself for no reason which I certainly wouldn't want if I was mafia, but it also doesn't seem like a good plan for the mafia however bizarre it is. What does he have to gain from doing this? Try looking at it from that way, it might help a bit

Given that he's probably not mafia, it's far more likely he's a misguided townie and should not be lynched. As a townie he would think that he has a unique plan to offer and has no fear of putting it up for people to see. Just because nobody likes the plan doesn't mean he is a bad guy too.

It seems like a dumb idea to lynch someone who we know is innocent just because he's turning the town against themselves. I spoke with him and he realized that the senseless bickering was doing only the mafia good and said he would stop, which he has. Everyone else should follow his lead then we can all rejoice and gallop to happy land
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