blue_arrow also announced candidacy early, but never got any votes or followed up.

I don't think the later candidates would be the early-coordination mafia candidates. While it is possible the mafia would benefit from having no candidates and have the town members accuse each of the candidates as potential mafia, the benefit of having an uncheckable mafia with bonus powers on top is too great. In any case, town members will soon be accusing each other of being mafia, even if they aren't election candidates.

I do think one of DrH, meeple, citi.zen, or t_co is likely a mafia candidate.

It's also possible the mafia tried to get both spots, but that is more risky on their part.

Zona

40426 Posts

January 21 2010 23:51 GMT

#623

Also - to those of you abstaining, I think abstaining is a bad idea if you are a town member. Even if you aren't sure on who to vote for, it's best that you leave a "paper trail" that later can be examined by the town later to determine if you had inside information (as mafia do). Abstaining is an ideal move for mafia members, as an abstention reveals nothing about what they know.

Of course mafia members can vote "against" their team - but still, having a vote down allows more analysis to be done later.

Zona

40426 Posts

January 22 2010 00:14 GMT

#624

Regardless of whether or not meeple/DrH are in league with each other, they do agree with most of each others' arguments, and at this point (day 1) I think it's valuable to keep opposing views at the forefront, so even though I'm holding my nose at this, I think t_co should become one of the elected officials.

Zona

40426 Posts

January 22 2010 00:17 GMT

#625

However I do not wish for t_co to lynch meeple.

Bill Murray

United States9292 Posts

January 22 2010 00:27 GMT

#626

you're letting t_co become mayor with 3 vote power, while doctorH would be sheriff with no real power other than incarceration? (which *I FEEL* is pretty weak compared to 3 votes)

Zona

40426 Posts

January 22 2010 00:28 GMT

#627

On January 22 2010 08:16 meeple wrote:
So... I went through the last 6 pages and roughly tallied the people who either mentioned they would support lynching t_co or explicitly stated it. I also pointed out a few people who haven't said much at all about it.

t_co
Mystlord
Abenson
Flamewheel
Hobbes - presumably
DrH
789
Bill Murray
citi.zen
Jugan
t_co - hey man, he said it
tredmaster
Faronel

I do not see where Faronel has supported lynching t_co or expressed sentiment along these lines, please point out a quote to me if I have missed it.

meeple

Canada10211 Posts

January 22 2010 00:29 GMT

#628

I can understand opposing views... but really? t_co??? He's been totally incomprehensible from the beginning

meeple

Canada10211 Posts

January 22 2010 00:30 GMT

#629

On January 22 2010 09:28 Zona wrote:

Show nested quote +

I do not see where Faronel has supported lynching t_co or expressed sentiment along these lines, please point out a quote to me if I have missed it.

You're right, I misread one of his earlier quotes

Zona

40426 Posts

January 22 2010 00:32 GMT

#630

t_co is a relatively open book, if he is a mafia. Right now the low-key mafia is of bigger concern to me - we have a few more days to lynch t_co if he becomes a problem, before his power becomes dominant. (And yes I do agree that the triple vote is more powerful, in fact I was the first person to express this sentiment.)

Right now I want to make sure we don't all easily agree with each other day 2, and so far for whatever reason DrH and meeple buy each others' arguments.

meeple

Canada10211 Posts

January 22 2010 00:33 GMT

#631

Zona: If you were mayor, who would you lynch?

Mystlord

United States10264 Posts

January 22 2010 00:46 GMT

#632

I think it's in our best interests to not let t_co become mayor or sheriff. His arguments are incoherent and shaky at best, and we'd be shooting ourselves in the foot if we elected someone who probably won't follow the public opinion on who to lynch.

At the very least, even if we don't lynch t_co, do not let him go into office. I highly doubt there is any sort of alliance between meeple and DrH. It seems to merely be a straw man argument that everyone has bought into.

meeple

Canada10211 Posts

January 22 2010 00:47 GMT

#633

If we don't lynch him, then who? nobody seems able to decide on something.

CynanMachae

Canada1459 Posts

January 22 2010 00:56 GMT

#634

I would still be with the idea of lynching Hobbes just because imo clues are a better basis for lynching right now that all this behavioral analysis that could pretty much mean anything depending on what you want it to say.

Also, I really think that double lynch should be reserved for later when we have many mafia suspects and need to lower their KP (i.e. toward the end of the game).

Zona

40426 Posts

January 22 2010 00:58 GMT

#635

I suggest lynching Faronel. Unlike other suggestions of hidden alliances, Faronel's few actions in this game DO link him to t_co, and unlike t_co, Faronel has not contributed a lot to the thread.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 22 2010 00:58 GMT

#636

On January 22 2010 09:46 Mystlord wrote:
I think it's in our best interests to not let t_co become mayor or sheriff. His arguments are incoherent and shaky at best, and we'd be shooting ourselves in the foot if we elected someone who probably won't follow the public opinion on who to lynch.

At the very least, even if we don't lynch t_co, do not let him go into office. I highly doubt there is any sort of alliance between meeple and DrH. It seems to merely be a straw man argument that everyone has bought into.

This is exactly how I feel.

Zona

40426 Posts

January 22 2010 00:59 GMT

#637

Also, to those who suggested that t_co may not go with the will of the town when using his triple vote, I acknowledge this danger and thus retract my desire to have him as mayor. However, please leave him alive for day 2 at least.

Ser Aspi

France84 Posts

January 22 2010 01:00 GMT

#638

On January 22 2010 09:58 Zona wrote:
I suggest lynching Faronel. Unlike other suggestions of hidden alliances, Faronel's few actions in this game DO link him to t_co, and unlike t_co, Faronel has not contributed a lot to the thread.

This makes sense.

meeple

Canada10211 Posts

January 22 2010 01:02 GMT

#639

On January 22 2010 09:59 Zona wrote:
Also, to those who suggested that t_co may not go with the will of the town when using his triple vote, I acknowledge this danger and thus retract my desire to have him as mayor. However, please leave him alive for day 2 at least.

Can you support your statement? Why should we leave him alive?

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 22 2010 01:04 GMT

#640

On January 22 2010 09:32 Zona wrote:
t_co is a relatively open book, if he is a mafia. Right now the low-key mafia is of bigger concern to me - we have a few more days to lynch t_co if he becomes a problem, before his power becomes dominant. (And yes I do agree that the triple vote is more powerful, in fact I was the first person to express this sentiment.)

Right now I want to make sure we don't all easily agree with each other day 2, and so far for whatever reason DrH and meeple buy each others' arguments.

Buy eachothers arguments that what? What argument are we both making that we agree with?

We started off disagreeing on who was most suspicious based on the clues. We agree that t_co shouldn't be mayor and we agree that there is no connection between us.

I bet you and I would also agree that we are not part of a secret mafia team. That doesn't mean anything.