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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
January 21 2010 17:22 GMT
#541
I wouldn't be against it, I just hope he doesn't turn out blue, but we sort of run that same risk with anyone.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 21 2010 17:22 GMT
#542
Well, if we lynch t_co on day one. we should be getting three clues on day 2.

Hopefully we can get something stronger than the connection to hobbes/keit to work with ;o.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 21 2010 17:24 GMT
#543
Also, let's discuss the hypothetical here.

t_co flips red

Where do we go from there?

t_co flips green or blue

Or here?

The second possibility seems more likely to me, what does the rest of the town think?
RIP Aaliyah
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 21 2010 17:24 GMT
#544
On January 22 2010 02:22 Bill Murray wrote:
well, if t_co is red, we have 2 easy options: Faronel and STIMILANT

if t_co is green(or blue), we go with hobbes and use the next clue we get from the night cycle.... the clues could actually give us 2 potential lynch victims, which would save hobbes.

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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 21 2010 17:25 GMT
#545
furthermore, i find the first scenario more likely.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 21 2010 17:25 GMT
#546
but that's splitting hairs.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
January 21 2010 17:26 GMT
#547
Green: we proceed as normal, move on to using our next set of clues for our next lynch.

Blue: we biff ourselves on our collective heads, then move on as normal

Red: rejoice about taking a mafia down on our day 1 lynch.
a) either go after anyone we perceive as a follower (I realize some might feel I belong in this category)
b) proceed as normal with clues.
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 21 2010 17:34 GMT
#548
If t_co was lynched and then turned up green, I would think some other candidate was part of the mob. I would keep this in mind for the day 2 double lynching. This includes myself, DH, meeple, 789, Nikoner and Ng5. So one of these based on 2nd set of clues + Hobbes on day two perhaps?

If t_co turns out red on the other hand, I think magicbullet, faronel, 789 and Stimilant would have to be on the shortlist next to Hobbes. Perhaps meeple as well, since t_co has made a deliberate effort to convince us that if one of them is lynched and found guilty the other is clean - so I would want to be careful if t_co turned red.

Plenty to talk about.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 21 2010 17:40 GMT
#549
i agree with this, citi.zen, but wouldn't someone who was a mafia candidate actually have to have some votes? say.... around 6 votes (there would be 6 mafia members other than him)? how many votes does t_co have? let me go check... looks like 6 to me


(disclaimer: i realize one of the 3 inactives could be mafia, which could explain why 789 might be voting for him, yet not be mafia [imo])
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 21 2010 17:40 GMT
#550
furthermore, please don't lecture me on how they can "split their votes".
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Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
January 21 2010 17:41 GMT
#551
On January 21 2010 22:37 meeple wrote:
True, it could be a charade from the beginning... if he's got time to make a banner like that, programming something shouldn't be out of his league.


I can program things too. It's not hard to make a program. However, it's another matter to program something correctly (even for an expert programmer, one can make mistakes). Judging from his code, he seems to be a novice programming. We have no idea if he actually programmed it correctly or went about doing it with the correct methodology.

789: Why would you switch your vote to t_co? No one likes him, and if you read his arguments, they make little to no sense and he contradicts himself more than once.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 21 2010 17:43 GMT
#552
he claimed that he wanted both sides to have one person in "office"...


though mayor is the real important role, and that's what he wants t_co to be apparently.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
January 21 2010 17:49 GMT
#553
Well, I will explain my reasoning on my vote, take it as you may, believe me or not. I'm trying to consider worse case scenarios for mafia getting elected to positions. Keep in mind, I'm not accusing anyone of being mafia through this. At this point I can pretty confidently say I don't think t_co and doctorH are both mafia. If t_co is elected the worst case is the mafia gets 1 of the positions. I consider it more likely doctorH and meeple are on the same side (either townies or mafia) compared to t_co and doctorH. So if doctorH and meeple are both elected any of the 3 combinations is possible, 2 townies, 1 of each, and 2 mafia. I'm trying to ride the fence and get at least 1 townie into one of the elected positions. So I went with t_co as I believe it gives the best chance of getting at least 1.

I think my reasoning there is decently sound. I could be wrong. At this point if I changed my vote off t_co it would be suspicious anyway.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 21 2010 17:50 GMT
#554
no it wouldn't. it would be the only smart thing you've posted since page 19.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
January 21 2010 17:51 GMT
#555
And I didn't claim I wanted both sides in office. I claimed I wanted at least 1 townie in office. I would prefer 2. What do you want me to do? No matter what I do with my vote now would be suspicious. It matters not anyway, at this point I'm pretty confident doctorH/meeple are going to be elected.
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Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
January 21 2010 17:52 GMT
#556
On January 22 2010 02:49 789 wrote:
Well, I will explain my reasoning on my vote, take it as you may, believe me or not. I'm trying to consider worse case scenarios for mafia getting elected to positions. Keep in mind, I'm not accusing anyone of being mafia through this. At this point I can pretty confidently say I don't think t_co and doctorH are both mafia. If t_co is elected the worst case is the mafia gets 1 of the positions. I consider it more likely doctorH and meeple are on the same side (either townies or mafia) compared to t_co and doctorH. So if doctorH and meeple are both elected any of the 3 combinations is possible, 2 townies, 1 of each, and 2 mafia. I'm trying to ride the fence and get at least 1 townie into one of the elected positions. So I went with t_co as I believe it gives the best chance of getting at least 1.

I think my reasoning there is decently sound. I could be wrong. At this point if I changed my vote off t_co it would be suspicious anyway.


I'd rather have some one competent in office - they will be obligated to help us. If they have a hidden mafia agenda, then they are bound to slip up somewhere and we can deduce his accomplices along the way. Now, if you want to elect a crazy guy that wants to kill everyone, then yeah go ahead and vote for t_co... not to mention he's likely not likely to work in unison with the town (as i see so far no one wants to start killing random people without intelligent analyses).
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 21 2010 17:53 GMT
#557
What I don't understand is why do any of us have to be mafia?

if t_co turns green that doesn't really mean anything about me or meeple. It's pretty obvious the "alliance" between me and meeple is completely fabricated. None of us ever attacked him early on, he started making a fuss all by himself and pointing fingers with pretty much no ground under it.

All that means is that if he's mafia, his role was obviously to divide the town/cause distrust. If he isn't mafia then he's just causing trouble (which benefits the mafia in the end)

I could just say "oh if I die and turn green, that means Ng5 is red" but it doesn't.
RIP Aaliyah
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
January 21 2010 17:54 GMT
#558
On January 22 2010 02:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
What I don't understand is why do any of us have to be mafia?

if t_co turns green that doesn't really mean anything about me or meeple. It's pretty obvious the "alliance" between me and meeple is completely fabricated. None of us ever attacked him early on, he started making a fuss all by himself and pointing fingers with pretty much no ground under it.

All that means is that if he's mafia, his role was obviously to divide the town/cause distrust. If he isn't mafia then he's just causing trouble (which benefits the mafia in the end)

I could just say "oh if I die and turn green, that means Ng5 is red" but it doesn't.


10/10 for logical thinking.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
January 21 2010 17:57 GMT
#559
I never said anyone was mafia. I just said I found it unlikely that both t_co and DoctorH are mafia. DoctorH winning sherrif is pretty much a forgone conclusion at this point. Whatever it doesn't matter, I'm not voting for anyone since I'm too "stupid" too use my vote correctly.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 21 2010 17:59 GMT
#560
Has anyone considered the whole possibility that the mafia doesn't even have a candidate?

We've been going on this whole shitstorm assuming someone running for office is red.

The mafia could see that and just think "well wouldn't it really fuck with them if none of us ran? They'll tear each other apart and probably end up lynching their elected candidates"

That's kind what is happening too.
RIP Aaliyah
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