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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
March 16 2015 01:42 GMT
#5161
On March 16 2015 10:05 RagequitBM wrote:
Limping Goat is officially a prediction king. I don't know if he just calls TSM winning everytime, and got lucky, or if he actually did research, but he was right. Praise

He definitely didn't do research, since if someone did research at all on IEM you'd say GE was going to win.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
March 16 2015 01:49 GMT
#5162
I dont think anyone in esports really can enter the ferrari wrecking business.


especially not former players that never got a full education, those should probably save some money.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
March 16 2015 01:54 GMT
#5163
I don't think Dyrus getting replaced will happen til soonest after Worlds, depending how they do and how he looks. Toplane talent is really dire in NA.

NA import super team? Impact/Rush/Bjerg/Piglet/Lustboy :3
XDG Mata
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-16 01:57:14
March 16 2015 01:57 GMT
#5164
On March 16 2015 10:49 LaNague wrote:
I dont think anyone in esports really can enter the ferrari wrecking business.


especially not former players that never got a full education, those should probably save some money.

You mean like the guy that owns one of the most popular teams in the world and one of the most frequented non-community sites? Regi makes MAD bank off solomid.net.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
March 16 2015 01:58 GMT
#5165
Again I'm sure Regi makes really good money, I just don't think he's making FUCK YOU Ferrari-crashing level money.
TranslatorBaa!
FeltFace
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia577 Posts
March 16 2015 02:25 GMT
#5166
PawN must still be the best mid laner in the world with LCK being exposed like that.
EsanLOL
Profile Joined January 2015
479 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-16 02:27:40
March 16 2015 02:25 GMT
#5167
Honest question here: What does Dyrus do that makes him so irreplaceable in your opinions? He's a selfless top laner, a lot of experience, but I don't think his level of play has been anything spectacular this split. For example, I don't look at Dyrus and then look at Hauntzer and think "Hauntzer could never do what Dyrus does!"
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
March 16 2015 02:28 GMT
#5168
On March 16 2015 11:25 EsanLOL wrote:
Honest question here: What does Dyrus do that makes him so irreplaceable in your opinions? He's a selfless top laner, a lot of experience, but I don't think his level of play has been anything spectacular this split. For example, I don't look at Dyrus and then look at Hauntzer and think "Hauntzer could never do what Dyrus does!"

Because Hauntzer doesn't do what Dyrus does, at least not now anyway.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
March 16 2015 02:32 GMT
#5169
Can Hauntzer do this :> ?

[image loading]

Would Dyrus ever do this?

[image loading]
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Daeavorn
Profile Joined May 2010
United States10 Posts
March 16 2015 02:40 GMT
#5170
You guys are also forgetting the best part about Dyrus. He is the best 2v1 toplaner I've ever seen. Or at least just as good as the top korean tops at it.

He CRUSHED that other guy in the 2v1, up like 40 cs.

Darkness!
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
March 16 2015 02:44 GMT
#5171
On March 16 2015 11:25 EsanLOL wrote:
Honest question here: What does Dyrus do that makes him so irreplaceable in your opinions? He's a selfless top laner, a lot of experience, but I don't think his level of play has been anything spectacular this split. For example, I don't look at Dyrus and then look at Hauntzer and think "Hauntzer could never do what Dyrus does!"

Him already being on the team is a good enough reason; you generally don't replace someone unless the replacement can offer decisive advantages or there is a compelling reason to replace them. Because restructuring is hard.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 16 2015 02:44 GMT
#5172
On March 16 2015 10:54 Caiada wrote:
I don't think Dyrus getting replaced will happen til soonest after Worlds, depending how they do and how he looks. Toplane talent is really dire in NA.

NA import super team? Impact/Rush/Bjerg/Piglet/Lustboy :3


after worlds Bjerg is officially an NA player by riot standards so they will have a slot if they want to import somewhere

but with it only being one slot Dyrus might be safe, I think they could get a lot better by upgrading at adc
Carrilord has arrived.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
March 16 2015 02:45 GMT
#5173
On March 16 2015 11:44 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2015 10:54 Caiada wrote:
I don't think Dyrus getting replaced will happen til soonest after Worlds, depending how they do and how he looks. Toplane talent is really dire in NA.

NA import super team? Impact/Rush/Bjerg/Piglet/Lustboy :3


after worlds Bjerg is officially an NA player by riot standards so they will have a slot if they want to import somewhere

but with it only being one slot Dyrus might be safe, I think they could get a lot better by upgrading at adc

they could take Piglet!


/s
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
EsanLOL
Profile Joined January 2015
479 Posts
March 16 2015 02:45 GMT
#5174
On March 16 2015 11:32 AlterKot wrote:
Can Hauntzer do this :> ?

[image loading]


http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2z5we5/spoiler_grand_final_iem_katowice_2015_day_3/cpg06f3


red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
March 16 2015 02:47 GMT
#5175
On March 16 2015 11:40 Daeavorn wrote:
You guys are also forgetting the best part about Dyrus. He is the best 2v1 toplaner I've ever seen.


This is jokes right?

Only a Romanian would take this seriously, yes?
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
March 16 2015 02:49 GMT
#5176
Went to bed, woke up... and the miracle did not happen. Oh well, still ridiculously proud of/happy for WE.

Were the games good or was they as stompy as the 3-0 scoreline?
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 16 2015 02:51 GMT
#5177
On March 16 2015 08:13 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Now that the gloating period has run out, time for some thoughts.

EU being a weaker region than NA has been something of a known quantity since Worlds. It's somewhat ironic given how early LoL esports was, and I'm not sure where it stems from; my guess is they've fallen behind on the coaching/analyst development that NA had spent much of last year/most of this split building up. SK didn't show much flexibility in their IEM games, and Gambit isn't useful for judging anything. I don't watch trash region LCS (huehue), so I can't really comment much here.

Part of this is also YoeFW being one of the strongest (or at least, one without glaring flaws in their roster) SEA/Taiwan teams to come to an international tourney since TPA stunningly swept S2 Worlds, and the Bo1 format; TSM lost the first game to YoeFW as well. SEA teams are usually underestimated because they're always rather hard to judge: outside of the clear tier 1 teams, the rest are complete shit, so you can't tell much from the level of competition.

Reminds me of Yango's surprisingly accurate statement about Chinese teams; they always look terribly shitty going into Worlds. I remember OMG pulling off several distinctly Dignitas-esque baron throws during last Worlds qualifier, with only EDG getting out of it looking good (ironically, also before they got #rekt at Worlds). And on the topic of CN teams, WE's roster changes certainly surprised everyone; there's only a few more weeks till LPL ends but I don't see WE getting auto-relegated if they transfer the same perfomrance back to LPL. Though it would be hilarious if they did.

The biggest and best thing this tourney did was definitively derail the KR hype train. Everyone's recognized that the exodus of talent to other regions seriously drained KR dominance (and might spark new player-favored changes in KeSPA teams if the talent drain continues, we'll see). That, and other regions have finally developed the coaching/analyst staff and started perfecting the support structures that made South Korean teams unparalleled in League from ~late S2 through S4 Worlds. Would also say GET underperformed against WE, and CJ was just bad but w/e. It's rather telling for the LCK right now that GET was 20-2, and how much development many of the new KR teams/players are going to have to undergo. KR will still be a force going into Worlds, but...man. Hype train derailed.


Unrelated note: one of these days I hope Riot puts out an English cast of Brazil's league. I'm interested in seeing how they've been progressing since Worlds because the BR scene had/has an immense amount of #potential; large domestic playerbase, pre-existing gaming teams, large amounts of sponsor money floating about, and pre-existing infrastructure from CS. All the makings of a strong region if they get it together (and I know they've been importing at least a few Koreans as well).


No one ever knows anything about SEA, lol. It's probably because Garena is in charge of distribution and Riot doesn't get to do deals and stuff there. Could be wrong though.
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EsanLOL
Profile Joined January 2015
479 Posts
March 16 2015 02:56 GMT
#5178
On March 16 2015 11:49 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Went to bed, woke up... and the miracle did not happen. Oh well, still ridiculously proud of/happy for WE.

Were the games good or was they as stompy as the 3-0 scoreline?


First game was really good. Second two were pretty one-sided.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-16 02:59:08
March 16 2015 02:56 GMT
#5179
Dyrus has a ton of experience, but the real problem is NA toplane talent is hot garbage and Dyrus, while never looking good, never loses games by himself either. He's also pretty damn good at 2v1s, honestly. All that S3 experience.

I miss ackerman showing NA how it's done.

Turtle's really not as bad as people in this thread want him to be >.>

On March 16 2015 11:49 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Went to bed, woke up... and the miracle did not happen. Oh well, still ridiculously proud of/happy for WE.

Were the games good or was they as stompy as the 3-0 scoreline?


Watch the first game if you want your inner WE fan crushed. The other two were stomps.
XDG Mata
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 16 2015 03:17 GMT
#5180
In any case I'm really glad TSM won an international event before dumping Dyrus if they do dump him.

I mean I only know the guy by his public persona but he seems like a really solid dude, who works hard and really deserves it, I'm happy for him.
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