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Ninja has been playing Chogath for months. He is the true innovator of LPL.
And Weiless has been playing Diana for a while too. It's a super common pick okn solo queue, hence xiye's love of it.
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Ninja's cho'gath was some crazy on hit shit though, nobody could comprehend its true brilliance.
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On March 16 2015 08:27 Fusilero wrote:
Ninja's cho'gath was some crazy on hit shit though, nobody could comprehend its true brilliance.
Why do you think he asked the coaching staff to bench him before IEM? He knew the world isn't yet ready. Lord Ninja was showing mercy.
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It'll be extremely embarrassing if WE gets relegated for korea and europe after this tournament which I think is definitely possible as the upgrades to their roster aren't significant (xiye isn't very good - he got benched from lpl lasted year, and I think that styz is better than mystic despite being one of the worst carries in the LPL) and only 2/4 teams that get sent to relegations can actually make it back to the LPL (not to mention that the LSPL teams are pretty strong, and WE was only able to barely 3-2 a LSPL team that didn't even make it out of groups.
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On March 16 2015 08:23 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 08:21 Azarkon wrote:On March 16 2015 08:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 16 2015 08:02 Azarkon wrote:On March 16 2015 07:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Calling Cool's champion pool limited is pretty ridiculous. His champion pool is limited in the sense that he's only comfortable on a select set of currently in-vogue champions. Players try to play on champions outside of their comfort zone all the time. But when doing so they don't look great. Cool has tried to play Zed twice in recent weeks, and failed both times to make use of the champion's strengths. He hasn't even tried to play Ezreal from what I've seen, doesn't play Cho'gath despite it being a FOTM pick in LPL, and also doesn't play Diana. This is a pretty big red flag when it comes to measuring champion pool. It also looks as though Loveling's champion limitations are affecting him. For example, I know Cool is capable of playing Lulu but because Loveling doesn't play carry junglers, OMG usually doesn't play support mids. Well to start I have to question your knowledge when you listed Ahri/Leblanc/Lissandra as Cool's mains when Cool hasn't played a single game of Lissandra this entire split until very recently I think, opting usually to ban it. You neglected to mention his Kassadin and Xerath, both of which are top notch. His Cassiopeia was pretty bad but he was playing it in the yolo phase. Between Ahri/LB/Kass/Xerath he has four S-class LPL mids, which is more than any other mid has. Pawn is a Kass/LB only kinda guy, with random trolley picks mixed in and he doesn't need to 1v5 in half his games; Xiaohu and Baka are Xerath/Azir-only pretty much; Corn is more diversified with Kass/Xerath/Ahri but isn't at Cool's level on those champs; Dade is lol; Rookie is Ahri/Fizz and lost without them; Hetong is Lissa/Kass/Xer and not as good as Cool on them. Weiless is probably the only person who has a more diverse champion pool than Cool. China was playing on an old patch for the longest time, so Cool hasn't had to play Liss till recently, because he had access to the now "nerfed and therefore unplayable" champs eg Kassadin. But with the hit to Kassadin and the falling out of Azir, they've had to switch to new FOTM champs. When you look at the champ pool that has been used in the last few weeks of LPL, Viktor, Ezreal, Cho'Gath, and Diana are the new picks, with Ahri, Leblanc, Xerath, Zed, and Liss being carry overs. Cool's pool consists of less than 50% of this list, because while I know he is capable of playing Xerath, he hasn't felt comfortable playing it into any assassin, and in any case OMG doesn't play poke comps very well so it's understandable. Had Cool's pool being as immense as you said, Snake would not have been able to target Cool in their bans and get an advantage out of it, as indeed it'd have been useless to do so. Lissandra has been a common pick for a long time Cool just chose not to play it, when OMG picked it it was usually for Gogoing, which usually ended disastrously. There is not a single mid besides Weiless who'd be able to survive that kind of targeting. Chogath Ezreal and Diana aren't new picks either, they've been around for ages.
Whether it's because Cool doesn't play them / OMG doesn't play well around them, the fact remains that OMG is an incredibly one dimensional team as of the present. Every single game they've played recently, it's been Uzi+Cloud on bully laners, while Cool is on an AP assassin, Loveling on an engage jungler - LeeSin/J4, and Goging on a tank top. No poke comps, no hyper carry comps, no jungle carries... It's too easy to shut down this sort of line-up via planning, and were this style to continue, then I imagine that's precisely what the top teams are going to do vs. them.
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On March 16 2015 08:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 07:54 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 16 2015 07:51 Itsmedudeman wrote:On March 16 2015 07:44 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 16 2015 07:41 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Snake can only win when Kryst4l is hard carrying them and nothing else from them is outstanding. They're basically SHRC 2.0 except Uzi is still the better player. Don't think this style will work when teams outside of China don't team fight every 3 minutes to make the ADC shine and get farmed that way. At least Uzi was and still is a fantastic laner that pretty much always seems to get ahead in the early game. I don't think you watch LPL at all if you actually belive this, this is the level of ignorance that you'd see on something like ChinaTalk lol. And only a Chinese fanboy would actually believe that Snake is a well rounded team. They lost to WE last week and only won the 2nd game after coming back from a 5k gold deficit because, well you guessed it, Kryst4l ended up being their late game carry in a 40+ minute game. But hey, we got 11 teams that would stomp WE in 20 minutes and not ever make it close hurrrr I didn't say Snake was a well-rounded team, but to say "Snake can only win when Kryst4l is hard carrying them and nothing else from them is outstanding" is absurd when Beast and Baka have performed exceptionally well. Pretty much every team in the top half of the standings that they've beat Snake has had to rely on that 40+ minute hard carry from Kryst4l. I'll believe Baka and Beast are good players when they can snowball early advantages for their team against the best teams. Until then, Baka is Kuro 2.0 and the best he can do is not feed and just play teamfights well.
Did you watch OMG vs. Snake game 1 from this week? You should stop posting about LPL if you don't actually watch LPL.
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The best outcome would be if WE loses to WE.F in relegation.
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On March 16 2015 08:32 ravenhunter42 wrote:
It'll be extremely embarrassing if WE gets relegated for korea and europe after this tournament which I think is definitely possible as the upgrades to their roster aren't significant (xiye isn't very good - he got benched from lpl lasted year, and I think that styz is better than mystic despite being one of the worst carries in the LPL) and only 2/4 teams that get sent to relegations can actually make it back to the LPL (not to mention that the LSPL teams are pretty strong, and WE was only able to barely 3-2 a LSPL team that didn't even make it out of groups.
Mystic isn't very flashy but if you look at post-game stats and compare to Styz-era WE you can see Mystic is a massive upgrade. I think xiye, despite making the flashy plays, is only a marginal upgrade over Ninja, and a lot of WE's success can be attributed to a much more stable bot lane. Sure Mystic died a lot and got outplayed a few times trying to go make things happen, but his teamfight damage output was miles ahead of Styz and he doesn't auto lose lane, which really frees up Spirit to apply pressure top.
I really liked Styz but at this point i's abundantly clear he completely forgot how to play Lol during his break.
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On March 16 2015 08:33 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 08:23 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 16 2015 08:21 Azarkon wrote:On March 16 2015 08:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 16 2015 08:02 Azarkon wrote:On March 16 2015 07:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Calling Cool's champion pool limited is pretty ridiculous. His champion pool is limited in the sense that he's only comfortable on a select set of currently in-vogue champions. Players try to play on champions outside of their comfort zone all the time. But when doing so they don't look great. Cool has tried to play Zed twice in recent weeks, and failed both times to make use of the champion's strengths. He hasn't even tried to play Ezreal from what I've seen, doesn't play Cho'gath despite it being a FOTM pick in LPL, and also doesn't play Diana. This is a pretty big red flag when it comes to measuring champion pool. It also looks as though Loveling's champion limitations are affecting him. For example, I know Cool is capable of playing Lulu but because Loveling doesn't play carry junglers, OMG usually doesn't play support mids. Well to start I have to question your knowledge when you listed Ahri/Leblanc/Lissandra as Cool's mains when Cool hasn't played a single game of Lissandra this entire split until very recently I think, opting usually to ban it. You neglected to mention his Kassadin and Xerath, both of which are top notch. His Cassiopeia was pretty bad but he was playing it in the yolo phase. Between Ahri/LB/Kass/Xerath he has four S-class LPL mids, which is more than any other mid has. Pawn is a Kass/LB only kinda guy, with random trolley picks mixed in and he doesn't need to 1v5 in half his games; Xiaohu and Baka are Xerath/Azir-only pretty much; Corn is more diversified with Kass/Xerath/Ahri but isn't at Cool's level on those champs; Dade is lol; Rookie is Ahri/Fizz and lost without them; Hetong is Lissa/Kass/Xer and not as good as Cool on them. Weiless is probably the only person who has a more diverse champion pool than Cool. China was playing on an old patch for the longest time, so Cool hasn't had to play Liss till recently, because he had access to the now "nerfed and therefore unplayable" champs eg Kassadin. But with the hit to Kassadin and the falling out of Azir, they've had to switch to new FOTM champs. When you look at the champ pool that has been used in the last few weeks of LPL, Viktor, Ezreal, Cho'Gath, and Diana are the new picks, with Ahri, Leblanc, Xerath, Zed, and Liss being carry overs. Cool's pool consists of less than 50% of this list, because while I know he is capable of playing Xerath, he hasn't felt comfortable playing it into any assassin, and in any case OMG doesn't play poke comps very well so it's understandable. Had Cool's pool being as immense as you said, Snake would not have been able to target Cool in their bans and get an advantage out of it, as indeed it'd have been useless to do so. Lissandra has been a common pick for a long time Cool just chose not to play it, when OMG picked it it was usually for Gogoing, which usually ended disastrously. There is not a single mid besides Weiless who'd be able to survive that kind of targeting. Chogath Ezreal and Diana aren't new picks either, they've been around for ages. Whether it's because Cool doesn't play them / OMG doesn't play well around them, the fact remains that OMG is an incredibly one dimensional team as of the present. Every single game they've played recently, it's been Uzi+Cloud on bully laners, while Cool is on an AP assassin, Loveling on an engage jungler - LeeSin/J4, and Goging on a tank top. No poke comps, no hyper carry comps, no jungle carries... It's too easy to shut down this sort of line-up via planning, and were this style to continue, then I imagine that's precisely what the top teams are going to do vs. them.
I don't really think you can make accurate judgements about non-relegation zone LPL teams during the regular season because they honestly just don't care (vayne/maokai bot, jungle braum, chogath mid, etc), the teams start actually bringing their strats to playoffs (like spring playoffs last year where ig started caring and beat omg, and right before summer playoffs omg lost 0-2 to yg but it didn't really mean anything)
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As I said in another thread, with 44 games (more than NA and EU LCS put together!) a split, LPL regular season is mostly televised scrims.
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What'd be really awkward for everyone is if TSM and GE miss MSI :3 We'd then have flukiest results of all time
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TSM just walked the royal road, so happy for them!
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On March 16 2015 08:39 Caiada wrote:
What'd be really awkward for everyone is if TSM and GE miss MSI :3 We'd then have flukiest results of all time
I wanna believe in the Faker carry.
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On March 16 2015 08:41 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 08:39 Caiada wrote:
What'd be really awkward for everyone is if TSM and GE miss MSI :3 We'd then have flukiest results of all time I wanna believe in the s0nstar carry.
Fixed that for you. MSI will consist of Incredible Miracle, Team 8, AHQ, Team King, Copenhagen Wolves and that Turkish team sponsored by a football club. It will be legendary hype.
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On March 16 2015 08:13 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Now that the gloating period has run out, time for some thoughts.
EU being a weaker region than NA has been something of a known quantity since Worlds. It's somewhat ironic given how early LoL esports was, and I'm not sure where it stems from; my guess is they've fallen behind on the coaching/analyst development that NA had spent much of last year/most of this split building up. SK didn't show much flexibility in their IEM games, and Gambit isn't useful for judging anything. I don't watch trash region LCS (huehue), so I can't really comment much here.
Part of this is also YoeFW being one of the strongest (or at least, one without glaring flaws in their roster) SEA/Taiwan teams to come to an international tourney since TPA stunningly swept S2 Worlds, and the Bo1 format; TSM lost the first game to YoeFW as well. SEA teams are usually underestimated because they're always rather hard to judge: outside of the clear tier 1 teams, the rest are complete shit, so you can't tell much from the level of competition.
Reminds me of Yango's surprisingly accurate statement about Chinese teams; they always look terribly shitty going into Worlds. I remember OMG pulling off several distinctly Dignitas-esque baron throws during last Worlds qualifier, with only EDG getting out of it looking good (ironically, also before they got #rekt at Worlds). And on the topic of CN teams, WE's roster changes certainly surprised everyone; there's only a few more weeks till LPL ends but I don't see WE getting auto-relegated if they transfer the same perfomrance back to LPL. Though it would be hilarious if they did.
The biggest and best thing this tourney did was definitively derail the KR hype train. Everyone's recognized that the exodus of talent to other regions seriously drained KR dominance (and might spark new player-favored changes in KeSPA teams if the talent drain continues, we'll see). That, and other regions have finally developed the coaching/analyst staff and started perfecting the support structures that made South Korean teams unparalleled in League from ~late S2 through S4 Worlds. Would also say GET underperformed against WE, and CJ was just bad but w/e. It's rather telling for the LCK right now that GET was 20-2, and how much development many of the new KR teams/players are going to have to undergo. KR will still be a force going into Worlds, but...man. Hype train derailed.
Unrelated note: one of these days I hope Riot puts out an English cast of Brazil's league. I'm interested in seeing how they've been progressing since Worlds because the BR scene had/has an immense amount of #potential; large domestic playerbase, pre-existing gaming teams, large amounts of sponsor money floating about, and pre-existing infrastructure from CS. All the makings of a strong region if they get it together (and I know they've been importing at least a few Koreans as well).
EU have same problem like they always had: shit management/coaching staff/player having to much control. Just look at SK/Gambit pick/ban phase this tournament: banning Zed vs Kuro, letting CJ have they only team comp they can play (double ad) with giving Shy his best champion while banning Hecarim etc.
Looking at EU LCS only team that is doing well and not being one trick pony is h2k. SK/Fnatic didn't try anything new while they were winning every game, they just keep picking same team comp every game. They have no idea how to use regular season, look at GE/EDG and how many team comp they run so far. Perfect example is also Roccat picking hyper carry every game when Woolite eats all skillshots. Elements is everything that is wrong with the region in one team.
It's not even worth talking about some of this teams. TL;DR: a lot of good players, but dumb ask fuck with terrible structure around of them.
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What if Najin has been #savingstrats all along?
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On March 16 2015 08:37 ravenhunter42 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 08:33 Azarkon wrote:On March 16 2015 08:23 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 16 2015 08:21 Azarkon wrote:On March 16 2015 08:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 16 2015 08:02 Azarkon wrote:On March 16 2015 07:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Calling Cool's champion pool limited is pretty ridiculous. His champion pool is limited in the sense that he's only comfortable on a select set of currently in-vogue champions. Players try to play on champions outside of their comfort zone all the time. But when doing so they don't look great. Cool has tried to play Zed twice in recent weeks, and failed both times to make use of the champion's strengths. He hasn't even tried to play Ezreal from what I've seen, doesn't play Cho'gath despite it being a FOTM pick in LPL, and also doesn't play Diana. This is a pretty big red flag when it comes to measuring champion pool. It also looks as though Loveling's champion limitations are affecting him. For example, I know Cool is capable of playing Lulu but because Loveling doesn't play carry junglers, OMG usually doesn't play support mids. Well to start I have to question your knowledge when you listed Ahri/Leblanc/Lissandra as Cool's mains when Cool hasn't played a single game of Lissandra this entire split until very recently I think, opting usually to ban it. You neglected to mention his Kassadin and Xerath, both of which are top notch. His Cassiopeia was pretty bad but he was playing it in the yolo phase. Between Ahri/LB/Kass/Xerath he has four S-class LPL mids, which is more than any other mid has. Pawn is a Kass/LB only kinda guy, with random trolley picks mixed in and he doesn't need to 1v5 in half his games; Xiaohu and Baka are Xerath/Azir-only pretty much; Corn is more diversified with Kass/Xerath/Ahri but isn't at Cool's level on those champs; Dade is lol; Rookie is Ahri/Fizz and lost without them; Hetong is Lissa/Kass/Xer and not as good as Cool on them. Weiless is probably the only person who has a more diverse champion pool than Cool. China was playing on an old patch for the longest time, so Cool hasn't had to play Liss till recently, because he had access to the now "nerfed and therefore unplayable" champs eg Kassadin. But with the hit to Kassadin and the falling out of Azir, they've had to switch to new FOTM champs. When you look at the champ pool that has been used in the last few weeks of LPL, Viktor, Ezreal, Cho'Gath, and Diana are the new picks, with Ahri, Leblanc, Xerath, Zed, and Liss being carry overs. Cool's pool consists of less than 50% of this list, because while I know he is capable of playing Xerath, he hasn't felt comfortable playing it into any assassin, and in any case OMG doesn't play poke comps very well so it's understandable. Had Cool's pool being as immense as you said, Snake would not have been able to target Cool in their bans and get an advantage out of it, as indeed it'd have been useless to do so. Lissandra has been a common pick for a long time Cool just chose not to play it, when OMG picked it it was usually for Gogoing, which usually ended disastrously. There is not a single mid besides Weiless who'd be able to survive that kind of targeting. Chogath Ezreal and Diana aren't new picks either, they've been around for ages. Whether it's because Cool doesn't play them / OMG doesn't play well around them, the fact remains that OMG is an incredibly one dimensional team as of the present. Every single game they've played recently, it's been Uzi+Cloud on bully laners, while Cool is on an AP assassin, Loveling on an engage jungler - LeeSin/J4, and Goging on a tank top. No poke comps, no hyper carry comps, no jungle carries... It's too easy to shut down this sort of line-up via planning, and were this style to continue, then I imagine that's precisely what the top teams are going to do vs. them. I don't really think you can make accurate judgements about non-relegation zone LPL teams during the regular season because they honestly just don't care (vayne/maokai bot, jungle braum, chogath mid, etc), the teams start actually bringing their strats to playoffs (like spring playoffs last year where ig started caring and beat omg, and right before summer playoffs omg lost 0-2 to yg but it didn't really mean anything)
By that argument, why are we even talking about teams based on their league performance? For all we know, every LPL team not in the bottom 4 is just trolling and the current rankings are completely wrong.
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On March 16 2015 08:44 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 08:37 ravenhunter42 wrote:On March 16 2015 08:33 Azarkon wrote:On March 16 2015 08:23 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 16 2015 08:21 Azarkon wrote:On March 16 2015 08:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 16 2015 08:02 Azarkon wrote:On March 16 2015 07:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Calling Cool's champion pool limited is pretty ridiculous. His champion pool is limited in the sense that he's only comfortable on a select set of currently in-vogue champions. Players try to play on champions outside of their comfort zone all the time. But when doing so they don't look great. Cool has tried to play Zed twice in recent weeks, and failed both times to make use of the champion's strengths. He hasn't even tried to play Ezreal from what I've seen, doesn't play Cho'gath despite it being a FOTM pick in LPL, and also doesn't play Diana. This is a pretty big red flag when it comes to measuring champion pool. It also looks as though Loveling's champion limitations are affecting him. For example, I know Cool is capable of playing Lulu but because Loveling doesn't play carry junglers, OMG usually doesn't play support mids. Well to start I have to question your knowledge when you listed Ahri/Leblanc/Lissandra as Cool's mains when Cool hasn't played a single game of Lissandra this entire split until very recently I think, opting usually to ban it. You neglected to mention his Kassadin and Xerath, both of which are top notch. His Cassiopeia was pretty bad but he was playing it in the yolo phase. Between Ahri/LB/Kass/Xerath he has four S-class LPL mids, which is more than any other mid has. Pawn is a Kass/LB only kinda guy, with random trolley picks mixed in and he doesn't need to 1v5 in half his games; Xiaohu and Baka are Xerath/Azir-only pretty much; Corn is more diversified with Kass/Xerath/Ahri but isn't at Cool's level on those champs; Dade is lol; Rookie is Ahri/Fizz and lost without them; Hetong is Lissa/Kass/Xer and not as good as Cool on them. Weiless is probably the only person who has a more diverse champion pool than Cool. China was playing on an old patch for the longest time, so Cool hasn't had to play Liss till recently, because he had access to the now "nerfed and therefore unplayable" champs eg Kassadin. But with the hit to Kassadin and the falling out of Azir, they've had to switch to new FOTM champs. When you look at the champ pool that has been used in the last few weeks of LPL, Viktor, Ezreal, Cho'Gath, and Diana are the new picks, with Ahri, Leblanc, Xerath, Zed, and Liss being carry overs. Cool's pool consists of less than 50% of this list, because while I know he is capable of playing Xerath, he hasn't felt comfortable playing it into any assassin, and in any case OMG doesn't play poke comps very well so it's understandable. Had Cool's pool being as immense as you said, Snake would not have been able to target Cool in their bans and get an advantage out of it, as indeed it'd have been useless to do so. Lissandra has been a common pick for a long time Cool just chose not to play it, when OMG picked it it was usually for Gogoing, which usually ended disastrously. There is not a single mid besides Weiless who'd be able to survive that kind of targeting. Chogath Ezreal and Diana aren't new picks either, they've been around for ages. Whether it's because Cool doesn't play them / OMG doesn't play well around them, the fact remains that OMG is an incredibly one dimensional team as of the present. Every single game they've played recently, it's been Uzi+Cloud on bully laners, while Cool is on an AP assassin, Loveling on an engage jungler - LeeSin/J4, and Goging on a tank top. No poke comps, no hyper carry comps, no jungle carries... It's too easy to shut down this sort of line-up via planning, and were this style to continue, then I imagine that's precisely what the top teams are going to do vs. them. I don't really think you can make accurate judgements about non-relegation zone LPL teams during the regular season because they honestly just don't care (vayne/maokai bot, jungle braum, chogath mid, etc), the teams start actually bringing their strats to playoffs (like spring playoffs last year where ig started caring and beat omg, and right before summer playoffs omg lost 0-2 to yg but it didn't really mean anything) By that argument, why are we even talking about teams based on their league performance? For all we know, every LPL team not in the bottom 4 is just trolling and the current rankings are completely wrong.
The most accurate thing we can say is Chinese League is weird as fuck.
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On March 16 2015 08:44 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 08:37 ravenhunter42 wrote:On March 16 2015 08:33 Azarkon wrote:On March 16 2015 08:23 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 16 2015 08:21 Azarkon wrote:On March 16 2015 08:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 16 2015 08:02 Azarkon wrote:On March 16 2015 07:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Calling Cool's champion pool limited is pretty ridiculous. His champion pool is limited in the sense that he's only comfortable on a select set of currently in-vogue champions. Players try to play on champions outside of their comfort zone all the time. But when doing so they don't look great. Cool has tried to play Zed twice in recent weeks, and failed both times to make use of the champion's strengths. He hasn't even tried to play Ezreal from what I've seen, doesn't play Cho'gath despite it being a FOTM pick in LPL, and also doesn't play Diana. This is a pretty big red flag when it comes to measuring champion pool. It also looks as though Loveling's champion limitations are affecting him. For example, I know Cool is capable of playing Lulu but because Loveling doesn't play carry junglers, OMG usually doesn't play support mids. Well to start I have to question your knowledge when you listed Ahri/Leblanc/Lissandra as Cool's mains when Cool hasn't played a single game of Lissandra this entire split until very recently I think, opting usually to ban it. You neglected to mention his Kassadin and Xerath, both of which are top notch. His Cassiopeia was pretty bad but he was playing it in the yolo phase. Between Ahri/LB/Kass/Xerath he has four S-class LPL mids, which is more than any other mid has. Pawn is a Kass/LB only kinda guy, with random trolley picks mixed in and he doesn't need to 1v5 in half his games; Xiaohu and Baka are Xerath/Azir-only pretty much; Corn is more diversified with Kass/Xerath/Ahri but isn't at Cool's level on those champs; Dade is lol; Rookie is Ahri/Fizz and lost without them; Hetong is Lissa/Kass/Xer and not as good as Cool on them. Weiless is probably the only person who has a more diverse champion pool than Cool. China was playing on an old patch for the longest time, so Cool hasn't had to play Liss till recently, because he had access to the now "nerfed and therefore unplayable" champs eg Kassadin. But with the hit to Kassadin and the falling out of Azir, they've had to switch to new FOTM champs. When you look at the champ pool that has been used in the last few weeks of LPL, Viktor, Ezreal, Cho'Gath, and Diana are the new picks, with Ahri, Leblanc, Xerath, Zed, and Liss being carry overs. Cool's pool consists of less than 50% of this list, because while I know he is capable of playing Xerath, he hasn't felt comfortable playing it into any assassin, and in any case OMG doesn't play poke comps very well so it's understandable. Had Cool's pool being as immense as you said, Snake would not have been able to target Cool in their bans and get an advantage out of it, as indeed it'd have been useless to do so. Lissandra has been a common pick for a long time Cool just chose not to play it, when OMG picked it it was usually for Gogoing, which usually ended disastrously. There is not a single mid besides Weiless who'd be able to survive that kind of targeting. Chogath Ezreal and Diana aren't new picks either, they've been around for ages. Whether it's because Cool doesn't play them / OMG doesn't play well around them, the fact remains that OMG is an incredibly one dimensional team as of the present. Every single game they've played recently, it's been Uzi+Cloud on bully laners, while Cool is on an AP assassin, Loveling on an engage jungler - LeeSin/J4, and Goging on a tank top. No poke comps, no hyper carry comps, no jungle carries... It's too easy to shut down this sort of line-up via planning, and were this style to continue, then I imagine that's precisely what the top teams are going to do vs. them. I don't really think you can make accurate judgements about non-relegation zone LPL teams during the regular season because they honestly just don't care (vayne/maokai bot, jungle braum, chogath mid, etc), the teams start actually bringing their strats to playoffs (like spring playoffs last year where ig started caring and beat omg, and right before summer playoffs omg lost 0-2 to yg but it didn't really mean anything) By that argument, why are we even talking about teams based on their league performance? For all we know, every LPL team not in the bottom 4 is just trolling and the current rankings are completely wrong.
If you look at past history that's not an absurd as a statement as you'd think.
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