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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On September 10 2014 06:11 O-ops wrote: Is that an open challenge? Wow ninja'd. 420 BET IT can someone report my post to get a mod to look at it. AsnSensation possibly bet me as well I'm not sure his post was non-committal | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On September 10 2014 11:54 Goumindong wrote: No, they don't. They need to get a good coach, buckle down, and become a team instead of a group of players that just happen to be on the same side of the map. They have the individual skill but they don't pick/ban well. They don't have a leader (and if it was d-lift would they respect him?) and they don't have a coherent strategy to use their talent. "get doublelfit fed and he will carry doesn't" work when the enemy team can just focus doublelift and its too obvious and easy to counter. I'm not convinced of this. The only time they really ever looked good this season (split, whatever, all of 2014) was when they outclassed people strategically. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On September 10 2014 12:13 cLutZ wrote: I'm not convinced of this. The only time they really ever looked good this season (split, whatever, all of 2014) was when they outclassed people strategically. Well there is a lot of correlation between when they were running doublelift as a support AD and when they actually had team chemistry. | ||
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Owned Noob
United States731 Posts
group 2: shrc, tpa group 3:blue, fnc group 4: c9, njws edg>tpa njws>blue white>shrc c9>fnc edg>njws white>c9 white>edg mvp dandy | ||
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ExceliosBeyond
208 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Cr4zyH0r5e
Peru1308 Posts
On September 10 2014 12:26 ExceliosBeyond wrote: I really don't think Seraph is safe despite "carrying." He only carried because Cris is bad and not even a top NACS top laner, he loses a lot of matchups that should go in his favor (this game, where HeavenTime donates 1 kill, 1 assist and doublebuffs to Cris and he still gets out CSed as the Lulu in the Lulu VS Mundo matchup, stands out as a pretty good example of how weak Cris is). No one on CLG should be safe from the bench outside of the bot lane. ? He carried 2 games in the series against dignitass that link managed to throw. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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nimdil
Poland3774 Posts
On September 10 2014 12:26 Owned Noob wrote: group 1: edg, white group 2: shrc, tpa group 3:blue, fnc group 4: c9, njws edg>tpa njws>blue white>shrc c9>fnc edg>njws white>c9 white>edg mvp dandy Final will be white > najin | ||
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nonlamer
Thailand322 Posts
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nimdil
Poland3774 Posts
On September 10 2014 19:13 nonlamer wrote: Which group is group of death? It hugely depends on how you see the relative power of each "region" of LoL: NA, EU, Korea, Republic of China and Poeple's Republic of China. For me it's group D. Najin White Shield finished 3rd in Korea but in playoffs they won matches against both KT squads and against SKT Telecom T1 K with total result 9-1. Impressive. Alliance dominated EU circuit and Cloud9 won summer regular season in NA and lost only in play-offs final to TSM narrowly 2-3. KaBuM will be probably slaughtered. It's definitely not group A with 2 power houses and 2 weaker teams. I'd argue that it's not group C with LMQ and OMG being not quite strong enough to warrant GoD. Group B is another choice for GoD: two strong teams from both Chinas and NA champion. I don't think SK will be anything but cannon fodder in it. | ||
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Sakray
France2198 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On September 10 2014 20:12 nimdil wrote: It hugely depends on how you see the relative power of each "region" of LoL: NA, EU, Korea, Republic of China and Poeple's Republic of China. For me it's group D. Najin White Shield finished 3rd in Korea but in playoffs they won matches against both KT squads and against SKT Telecom T1 K with total result 9-1. Impressive. Alliance dominated EU circuit and Cloud9 won summer regular season in NA and lost only in play-offs final to TSM narrowly 2-3. KaBuM will be probably slaughtered. It's definitely not group A with 2 power houses and 2 weaker teams. I'd argue that it's not group C with LMQ and OMG being not quite strong enough to warrant GoD. Group B is another choice for GoD: two strong teams from both Chinas and NA champion. I don't think SK will be anything but cannon fodder in it. C, man, C. Any worlds group where Fnatic is the weakest team is stacked. | ||
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nimdil
Poland3774 Posts
On September 10 2014 21:32 Gahlo wrote: C, man, C. Any worlds group where Fnatic is the weakest team is stacked. You will probably not agree but I think that Alliance / Cloud9 are both stronger than LMQ/Fnatic/OMG. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On September 10 2014 22:23 nimdil wrote: You will probably not agree but I think that Alliance / Cloud9 are both stronger than LMQ/Fnatic/OMG. Yes, but there is no Kabum in the group. | ||
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
On September 10 2014 20:12 nimdil wrote: It hugely depends on how you see the relative power of each "region" of LoL: NA, EU, Korea, Republic of China and Poeple's Republic of China. For me it's group D. Najin White Shield finished 3rd in Korea but in playoffs they won matches against both KT squads and against SKT Telecom T1 K with total result 9-1. Impressive. Alliance dominated EU circuit and Cloud9 won summer regular season in NA and lost only in play-offs final to TSM narrowly 2-3. KaBuM will be probably slaughtered. It's definitely not group A with 2 power houses and 2 weaker teams. I'd argue that it's not group C with LMQ and OMG being not quite strong enough to warrant GoD. Group B is another choice for GoD: two strong teams from both Chinas and NA champion. I don't think SK will be anything but cannon fodder in it. Yep, definitely agreed. Group A is obviously not a group of death--the outcome of it is way too clear. Group C is a potential group of death, because while Blue is a clear favorite, one of Fnatic and OMG are guaranteed to die, though in other groups they might be able to get through. Group D is in a similar position to group C, with NWS being the favorite and Alliance and Cloud9 taking the place of Fnatic and OMG. Group B is the group of death in my opinion because none of the teams are the favorite to advance, but they all are strong enough to advance if they were given a different group. Two teams that shouldn't be killed so early in the tournament will be killed. Personally, I'm hoping for TSM and SK for more westerners, but I really don't have much idea of the strengths of the other two teams, as I'm sure is the case for most people here. SEA isn't supposed to be a strong region and China's only good team is supposed to be EDG, so we have a chance. | ||
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nimdil
Poland3774 Posts
When was the last time they played against top tier NA/EU/Korea/*China team? | ||
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nimdil
Poland3774 Posts
On September 10 2014 23:14 APurpleCow wrote: Group B is the group of death in my opinion because none of the teams are the favorite to advance, but they all are strong enough to advance if they were given a different group. Two teams that shouldn't be killed so early in the tournament will be killed. Personally, I'm hoping for TSM and SK for more westerners, but I really don't have much idea of the strengths of the other two teams, as I'm sure is the case for most people here. SEA isn't supposed to be a strong region and China's only good team is supposed to be EDG, so we have a chance. For me this is fairly even and strong but overall strength in it does not warrant Group of Death status - there's no korean team (a region that's arguably the strongest at the moment), from the chinese team EDG is fairly obviously the strongest and Taipei Assassins might surprise many but they are not really title contender at the moment. Actually any team from group B winning Worlds would be a big (if not huge) surprise. | ||
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