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O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
September 10 2014 01:14 GMT
#1281
I don't think it's saint, i just think CA's top and bot lanes are just outclassed.

Cris, in particular, kept losing lanes even when the matchup is in his favor.
Fan of the Jangbanger
asymptotech
Profile Joined May 2013
United States295 Posts
September 10 2014 01:14 GMT
#1282
On September 10 2014 10:13 daSilvaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 10:12 overt wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:06 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:04 Fionn wrote:
CLG losing would be better for them probably in the long run. A comeback 3-2 victory MIGHT make the people in charge think that this roster could be decent next year. A loss and into the promo tournament would have pretty much made Kelby and Hotshot kick at least three of the five members.


You can't kick more than 2 anyway.

#InCLGSeason5IBelieve
Let's go, road to another dream has just started here.


Should get rid of Link and Seraph. Pick up someone who falls out of EU for mid (bargain Bjergsen basically) and see what NA talent you can grab for top. Dexter isn't great but they desperately need stronger solo laners.

Seraph did perfectly fine what u on about


To give credit where credit is due: Yes, he did do fine in that series. But I don't think what he was referring to.
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
September 10 2014 01:15 GMT
#1283
still cant believe they picked zuna. xD
Science>Mechanics
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 10 2014 01:16 GMT
#1284
Doublelift is on the desk for worlds again :D
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Merlin the Tuna
Profile Joined May 2011
United States57 Posts
September 10 2014 01:16 GMT
#1285
On September 10 2014 10:12 TitusVI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 10:10 Ryuu314 wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:09 Kinie wrote:
I think the horsey could've worked if they weren't against a Ryze, Ziggs, AND Alistair.

I think they also missed a huuuuge window. They should've tried to make picks or just straight up tower dive with Baron buff. A fed as shit Hecarim+Lulu+Zilean+Baron. If any team comp can tower dive, it's that one.


To be honest a bit of health would have helped heca but rune prison basically shuts him down.
Yeah, I think the Ghostblade may have been a mistake. CLG's comp did him no favors, but Mercs + Triforce is not an adequate defensive loadout versus a double AP comp, especially one where Ryze pretty much ran all over top lane.
ParadeofMadness
Profile Joined February 2014
United Kingdom1027 Posts
September 10 2014 01:17 GMT
#1286
drop dexter and link pls... but then who do you replace them with??? thats a real question
See Noob, Flame Noob. Top Lane main. 120ping master race Aspire to be one man rape train : choo-choo- yamedie~ mothafucka
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 10 2014 01:17 GMT
#1287
On September 10 2014 10:17 ParadeofMadness wrote:
drop dexter and link pls... but then who do you replace them with??? thats a real question

There's plenty of mid talent around for mid. Jungler is much harder.
liftlift > tsm
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
September 10 2014 01:18 GMT
#1288
On September 10 2014 10:14 asymptotech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 10:13 daSilvaz wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:12 overt wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:06 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:04 Fionn wrote:
CLG losing would be better for them probably in the long run. A comeback 3-2 victory MIGHT make the people in charge think that this roster could be decent next year. A loss and into the promo tournament would have pretty much made Kelby and Hotshot kick at least three of the five members.


You can't kick more than 2 anyway.

#InCLGSeason5IBelieve
Let's go, road to another dream has just started here.


Should get rid of Link and Seraph. Pick up someone who falls out of EU for mid (bargain Bjergsen basically) and see what NA talent you can grab for top. Dexter isn't great but they desperately need stronger solo laners.

Seraph did perfectly fine what u on about


To give credit where credit is due: Yes, he did do fine in that series. But I don't think what he was referring to.


I'm willing to give Seraph one more season but they need major changes. At the very least replace Link, if a good import shows up replace dexter for him. I think in reg season dexter wasn't as bad as link or seraph though so replacing those two probably more ideal.
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
September 10 2014 01:19 GMT
#1289
On September 10 2014 10:16 Merlin the Tuna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 10:12 TitusVI wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:10 Ryuu314 wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:09 Kinie wrote:
I think the horsey could've worked if they weren't against a Ryze, Ziggs, AND Alistair.

I think they also missed a huuuuge window. They should've tried to make picks or just straight up tower dive with Baron buff. A fed as shit Hecarim+Lulu+Zilean+Baron. If any team comp can tower dive, it's that one.


To be honest a bit of health would have helped heca but rune prison basically shuts him down.
Yeah, I think the Ghostblade may have been a mistake. CLG's comp did him no favors, but Mercs + Triforce is not an adequate defensive loadout versus a double AP comp, especially one where Ryze pretty much ran all over top lane.


visage would have increased his w regeneration plus tank stats vs ryze+zigg.
Science>Mechanics
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 10 2014 01:21 GMT
#1290
im not an expert, but clg has 2 imports allready, who arent affected by restrictions but apply restrictions to new clg members, so they cant import anyone for mid.

right? maybe not.




i also think if you have to play versus CLG and dont have a strong botlane, it might be a good idea to let you mid pick up zed.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
September 10 2014 01:22 GMT
#1291
On September 10 2014 10:14 O-ops wrote:
I don't think it's saint, i just think CA's top and bot lanes are just outclassed.

Cris, in particular, kept losing lanes even when the matchup is in his favor.

Their botlane is outclassed soooo hard.
Jaedong :3
meowmasta85
Profile Joined January 2013
721 Posts
September 10 2014 01:22 GMT
#1292
they can't import anyone from outside of NA, but maybe they can find some NA talent better than link...though link played really well the last 2 games.
meowmasta85
Profile Joined January 2013
721 Posts
September 10 2014 01:23 GMT
#1293
impactful + bunny, when bunny wasn't on thresh, was just way outclassed.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 10 2014 01:25 GMT
#1294
On September 10 2014 10:21 LaNague wrote:
im not an expert, but clg has 2 imports allready, who arent affected by restrictions but apply restrictions to new clg members, so they cant import anyone for mid.

right? maybe not.

This is right as long as CLG doesnt get rid of Dexter and Seraph. They will probably do so though imo.

But yeah, finding good new players is way harder than kicking the old ones.

For me CLG is still a candidate for picking up 2 Koreans for next season, although I dont know if they still have money in the bank.
Off-season = best season
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
September 10 2014 01:42 GMT
#1295
its like you guys arent even listening to doublelift after the game. no way clg is switching their roster after that comeback. "maybe instead of making big promises about next season, we can put in the work to get better"
jaedong the man with the huge dong
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 10 2014 01:43 GMT
#1296
On September 10 2014 10:25 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 10:21 LaNague wrote:
im not an expert, but clg has 2 imports allready, who arent affected by restrictions but apply restrictions to new clg members, so they cant import anyone for mid.

right? maybe not.

This is right as long as CLG doesnt get rid of Dexter and Seraph. They will probably do so though imo.

But yeah, finding good new players is way harder than kicking the old ones.

For me CLG is still a candidate for picking up 2 Koreans for next season, although I dont know if they still have money in the bank.

honestly depends on the new resident requirements, which we don't know yet. Riot has stated that it's possible for an import to become a resident. If it's something along the lines of having to live in NA for a year or multiple splits, Dexter may no longer be considered an import.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 10 2014 01:47 GMT
#1297
Clg.ryu?
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 10 2014 02:45 GMT
#1298
On September 10 2014 10:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Clg.ryu?

Perfect, the Fake of NA can dump on him too. :D
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
September 10 2014 02:54 GMT
#1299
On September 10 2014 10:18 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 10:14 asymptotech wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:13 daSilvaz wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:12 overt wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:06 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:04 Fionn wrote:
CLG losing would be better for them probably in the long run. A comeback 3-2 victory MIGHT make the people in charge think that this roster could be decent next year. A loss and into the promo tournament would have pretty much made Kelby and Hotshot kick at least three of the five members.


You can't kick more than 2 anyway.

#InCLGSeason5IBelieve
Let's go, road to another dream has just started here.


Should get rid of Link and Seraph. Pick up someone who falls out of EU for mid (bargain Bjergsen basically) and see what NA talent you can grab for top. Dexter isn't great but they desperately need stronger solo laners.

Seraph did perfectly fine what u on about


To give credit where credit is due: Yes, he did do fine in that series. But I don't think what he was referring to.


I'm willing to give Seraph one more season but they need major changes. At the very least replace Link, if a good import shows up replace dexter for him. I think in reg season dexter wasn't as bad as link or seraph though so replacing those two probably more ideal.


No, they don't. They need to get a good coach, buckle down, and become a team instead of a group of players that just happen to be on the same side of the map. They have the individual skill but they don't pick/ban well. They don't have a leader (and if it was d-lift would they respect him?) and they don't have a coherent strategy to use their talent. "get doublelfit fed and he will carry doesn't" work when the enemy team can just focus doublelift and its too obvious and easy to counter.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14211 Posts
September 10 2014 03:04 GMT
#1300
I honestly couldn't even watch the game beacuse I felt that it was going to be the end of CLG and they would get relegated out of lcs.

2015 CLG worlds live the dream here we go again boys.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
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