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Thinking about it more, I don't see group C as the group of death partly because I see LMQ as a (slight) step below the other EU/NA teams at the tournament. Something like this:
Korea >= EDG >>> China, EU, NA, TPA >= LMQ > ahq >>> wildcard
If you thing LMQ is on their level, then group C is probably the group of death, with group B being a runner up.
On September 10 2014 23:26 nimdil wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2014 23:14 APurpleCow wrote:
Group B is the group of death in my opinion because none of the teams are the favorite to advance, but they all are strong enough to advance if they were given a different group. Two teams that shouldn't be killed so early in the tournament will be killed. Personally, I'm hoping for TSM and SK for more westerners, but I really don't have much idea of the strengths of the other two teams, as I'm sure is the case for most people here. SEA isn't supposed to be a strong region and China's only good team is supposed to be EDG, so we have a chance. For me this is fairly even and strong but overall strength in it does not warrant Group of Death status - there's no korean team (a region that's arguably the strongest at the moment), from the chinese team EDG is fairly obviously the strongest and Taipei Assassins might surprise many but they are not really title contender at the moment. Actually any team from group B winning Worlds would be a big (if not huge) surprise.
Of course, but, at least from how I understand it, the group of death isn't necessarily the group with the strongest teams. If the group of death was simply a measure of "ability to win the tournament", then group A would clearly be the group of death with EDG and SSB. But this is absurd--they're both nearly guaranteed to get out of the group. In fact, every team that has a high chance to win the tournament is nearly guaranteed to get out of the group.
Since all the tier 1 teams are safe, we have to move on to the tier 2 teams to decide the group of death. Which group will kill the most tier 2 teams? Group B will kill two, group C will kill one, or two if you have a high opinion of LMQ.
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So starhorn's coach apparently said that TPA is the strongest team in their group. SEA STRONK, WINDS BEST JUNGLE REMOVE DANDY.
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On September 10 2014 23:42 APurpleCow wrote:Thinking about it more, I don't see group C as the group of death partly because I see LMQ as a (slight) step below the other EU/NA teams at the tournament. Something like this: Korea >= EDG >>> China, EU, NA, TPA >= LMQ > ahq >>> wildcard If you thing LMQ is on their level, then group C is probably the group of death, with group B being a runner up. Show nested quote +On September 10 2014 23:26 nimdil wrote:On September 10 2014 23:14 APurpleCow wrote:
Group B is the group of death in my opinion because none of the teams are the favorite to advance, but they all are strong enough to advance if they were given a different group. Two teams that shouldn't be killed so early in the tournament will be killed. Personally, I'm hoping for TSM and SK for more westerners, but I really don't have much idea of the strengths of the other two teams, as I'm sure is the case for most people here. SEA isn't supposed to be a strong region and China's only good team is supposed to be EDG, so we have a chance. For me this is fairly even and strong but overall strength in it does not warrant Group of Death status - there's no korean team (a region that's arguably the strongest at the moment), from the chinese team EDG is fairly obviously the strongest and Taipei Assassins might surprise many but they are not really title contender at the moment. Actually any team from group B winning Worlds would be a big (if not huge) surprise. Of course, but, at least from how I understand it, the group of death isn't necessarily the group with the strongest teams. If the group of death was simply a measure of "ability to win the tournament", then group A would clearly be the group of death with EDG and SSB. But this is absurd--they're both nearly guaranteed to get out of the group. In fact, every team that has a high chance to win the tournament is nearly guaranteed to get out of the group. Since all the tier 1 teams are safe, we have to move on to the tier 2 teams to decide the group of death. Which group will kill the most tier 2 teams? Group B will kill two, group C will kill one, or two if you have a high opinion of LMQ.
Yea, but in order for a group to be GoD, the #strongTeams > #slots which is not the case for group A. So if you have 3 very strong teams and complete no-idea-probably-weak or 1 very strong and 3 strong (the way I see difference between the two) - matter of judgment.
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On September 11 2014 00:54 Fusilero wrote:
So starhorn's coach apparently said that TPA is the strongest team in their group. SEA STRONK, WINDS BEST JUNGLE REMOVE DANDY.
Strongest opponent, so strongest after SHRC. And Taiwanese are still fellow Chinese for them, so there is that bias and I would not read too much into it.
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Well let's see if a challenger team makes it today.
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If EG loses to coast with a pair of NLB rejects (And I mean, NLB rejects. Not even making it in the first place) then it's time for everyone on EG to throw in the towel.
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How Coast can have 2 koreans and european with new rules?
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I believe it's because all three were in before the rules were officially announced allowing them as non-residential exemptions (Like the entirety of lomoQ)
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On September 11 2014 01:51 Fusilero wrote:
I believe it's because all three were in before the rules were officially announced allowing them as non-residential exemptions (Like the entirety of lomoQ)
I think they could have even added them after the announcement. It says players that are on the roster for a challenger team for the relegation matches are excempt.
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to be honest I don't even care if Gambit wins anymore, this team isn't the team I used to love
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Man, I still can't believe Darien got replaced by freakin' Kubon...
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Tristana lasts until 4th round of picks. Uh, good effort guys
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The Fish is in the jungle :O What the hell is with these last series picks :O
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I think I want SKP to win.
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You can almost create another polish lcs team out of those guys.
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Gambit Gaming vs SK Prime
Bans:
Lee Sin Alistar
Nami Yasuo
Nidalee Kha'Zix
Picks:
Ryze Thresh, Fizz
Elise, Zed Mundo, Tristana
Lucian, Braum Orianna
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I sort of want gambit to lose, they're too painful of a team to watch in EU LCS.
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On September 11 2014 02:18 Silvanel wrote:
You can almost create another polish lcs team out of those guys.
We already have 10. ROCCAT, NiQ, Selfie, Creaton, Woolite, Kubon.
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EPT
