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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 18 2013 18:46 GMT
#601
Lol dat ending.

Crs vs Blaze plx.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 18 2013 18:46 GMT
#602
On January 19 2013 03:45 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 03:45 Sufficiency wrote:
Uh. Looks like M5 will go 1-2.... so will MYM. I don't see Curse winning against Azubu Blaze.... so... tiebreaker? How would the tiebreaker work?

The infamous time rule.


Ouch. M5 won this with only 26 minutes, lol.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 18 2013 18:47 GMT
#603
On January 19 2013 03:45 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 03:45 Sufficiency wrote:
Uh. Looks like M5 will go 1-2.... so will MYM. I don't see Curse winning against Azubu Blaze.... so... tiebreaker? How would the tiebreaker work?

The infamous time rule.

the dumbest rule of all time.
liftlift > tsm
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51507 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 18:48:00
January 18 2013 18:47 GMT
#604
The best round-robin system IMO is OGN's system; 1 game on each side, 3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw.
Might take longer but it seems fairer.

Is the time rule Riot's creation?
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 18 2013 18:47 GMT
#605
On January 19 2013 03:46 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 03:45 TheYango wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:45 Sufficiency wrote:
Uh. Looks like M5 will go 1-2.... so will MYM. I don't see Curse winning against Azubu Blaze.... so... tiebreaker? How would the tiebreaker work?

The infamous time rule.


Ouch. M5 won this with only 26 minutes, lol.


MYM beat Curse faster, so euh proberly MYM going through ?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 18 2013 18:48 GMT
#606
On January 19 2013 03:45 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 03:44 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:42 Redox wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:38 AsnSensation wrote:
so if M5 wins against MYM and blaze wins against curse we have a 3way tie with mym, curse and M5 right

Oh boy, then we get to use that awesome time based tie breaker.

Well everybody knew that could come into play. And it seemed like MYM had this in mind when they dived into the base of Curse at 21 min into the game.

I knew it was a possibility, doesn't mean I have to like it.

I was just pointing out that its not totally random but that it actually play a role in the games. Now MYM also seems to be thinking of it as they are turtling hard.

Fair enough, I respect that the teams recognized this and changed their play style accordingly. I really liked the way they did it at the LCS where the first two matches happen and than the winners play each other and the losers play each other and so on.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
January 18 2013 18:48 GMT
#607
On January 19 2013 03:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 03:45 TheYango wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:45 Sufficiency wrote:
Uh. Looks like M5 will go 1-2.... so will MYM. I don't see Curse winning against Azubu Blaze.... so... tiebreaker? How would the tiebreaker work?

The infamous time rule.

the dumbest rule of all time.


Extended series!

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Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
January 18 2013 18:49 GMT
#608
They won't show Azubu vs Crs ?
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 18 2013 18:49 GMT
#609
On January 19 2013 03:47 GTR wrote:
The best round-robin system IMO is OGN's system; 1 game on each side, 3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw.
Might take longer but it seems fairer.

Is the time rule Riot's creation?


Only ESL uses this system.
It has been criticized for YEARS and they insist on it.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 18 2013 18:49 GMT
#610
On January 19 2013 03:47 GTR wrote:
The best round-robin system IMO is OGN's system; 1 game on each side, 3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw.
Might take longer but it seems fairer.

Is the time rule Riot's creation?

I'm pretty sure it isn't. IIRC it dates back to when DotA was still at IEM (though I think people hated it then too).
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jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 18:49:59
January 18 2013 18:49 GMT
#611
And... this is why I prefer the Dual Tournament Style. You just win two games before you lose two games. Simple.
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 18 2013 18:50 GMT
#612
On January 19 2013 03:47 GTR wrote:
The best round-robin system IMO is OGN's system; 1 game on each side, 3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw.
Might take longer but it seems fairer.

Is the time rule Riot's creation?

Sadly getting BO2 in a round robin format doesn't happen that often in LoL tournaments.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 18:51:37
January 18 2013 18:50 GMT
#613
Also, I'd point out that in MYM vs Curse, Curse vs Gambit, and Gambit vs MYM, Blue team won all 3 games.

It's getting to the point where in games between "close" teams, Blue/Purple imbalance seems a bit too relevant.
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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
January 18 2013 18:52 GMT
#614
It could be worse. They could choose a tiebreaker rule that encourages the winning team to turtle (e.g. best K/D ratio)

Personally I think the mini 4-team double elimination format is best (A vs B, C vs D, winner vs winner, loser vs loser, winner-loser vs loser-winner)
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 18 2013 18:53 GMT
#615
On January 19 2013 03:50 TheYango wrote:
Also, I'd point out that in MYM vs Curse, Curse vs Gambit, and Gambit vs MYM, Blue team won all 3 games.

It's getting to the point where in games between "close" teams, Blue/Purple imbalance seems a bit too relevant.


they should seperate first pick and blue side and see where that leads to.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 18 2013 18:54 GMT
#616
The system used in MSL was the best. It was essentially a double elimination group stage.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
January 18 2013 18:54 GMT
#617
Oh what, Blaze vs Curse is not streamed? zz
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 18 2013 18:54 GMT
#618
Actually if Curse beats Blaze, Blue team will have had a 100% winrate in this group.
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 18 2013 18:55 GMT
#619
On January 19 2013 03:53 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 03:50 TheYango wrote:
Also, I'd point out that in MYM vs Curse, Curse vs Gambit, and Gambit vs MYM, Blue team won all 3 games.

It's getting to the point where in games between "close" teams, Blue/Purple imbalance seems a bit too relevant.


they should seperate first pick and blue side and see where that leads to.


No they should always go for a Bo2 instead of Bo1's. As many have said it's alot more fair and easy to balance points out.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 18 2013 18:55 GMT
#620
On January 19 2013 03:54 HazMat wrote:
Oh what, Blaze vs Curse is not streamed? zz


Happy Birthday Shake.

No Blaze x Curse isn't streamed, sadly. Even now that GG vs MYM has ended, they don't switch games :/
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