EPTOn January 19 2013 03:54 TheYango wrote:
Actually if Curse beats Blaze, Blue team will have had a 100% winrate in this group.
Actually if Curse beats Blaze, Blue team will have had a 100% winrate in this group.
This tendency is really worrying.
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Redox
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This tendency is really worrying. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On January 19 2013 03:54 Sufficiency wrote: The system used in MSL was the best. It was essentially a double elimination group stage. Riot NA Qualis had this setup as well. But honestly, any format that doesn't include time is automatically better than what they're using for IEM right now. | ||
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jpak
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
On January 19 2013 03:55 Lysanias wrote: No they should always go for a Bo2 instead of Bo1's. As many have said it's alot more fair and easy to balance points out. yes, but that fixes only symptoms. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 19 2013 03:55 Lysanias wrote: No they should always go for a Bo2 instead of Bo1's. As many have said it's alot more fair and easy to balance points out. It doesn't fix the problem as it applies to map imbalance in Bo3s/Bo5s--the team that gets to have Blue side an extra time gets an advantage. | ||
GTR
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On January 19 2013 03:57 TheYango wrote: It doesn't fix the problem as it applies to map imbalance in Bo3s/Bo5s--the team that gets to have Blue side an extra time gets an advantage. ... which is why blind pick for the last set is ingenious. How are the sides determined at IEM for the RR? Coin flip? | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 19 2013 03:58 GTR wrote: ... which is why blind pick for the last set is ingenious. I don't think that solves the issue either, though it lessens it if you believe that 1st pick has a significant draft advantage. If you think the draft advantage is significant in relation to the map advantage, then it should be purple team that gets 1st ban/1st pick. | ||
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GTR
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But this is going off-topic so I'll leave it there. | ||
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zulu_nation8
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Slusher
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
On January 19 2013 03:59 TheYango wrote: I don't think that solves the issue either, though it lessens it if you believe that 1st pick has a significant draft advantage. If you think the draft advantage is significant in relation to the map advantage, then it should be purple team that gets 1st ban/1st pick. purple having 1st pick should be done first. Because only then you can collect data regarding map imbalance as right now we only have blueside+firstpick data. Only by it being seperated you can actually know if and how much blue and purple are imbalanced. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On January 19 2013 03:55 Doctorbeat wrote: Happy Birthday Shake. No Blaze x Curse isn't streamed, sadly. Even now that GG vs MYM has ended, they don't switch games :/ Thanks. Now I remember why I rarely watch IEM. Saint was jungling Ezreal, too. | ||
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Lounge
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Curse vs Gambit ~32:50 Curse Gambit vs MYM ~26:00 Gambit So if Curse wins Azubu/Curse is in, if Azubu wins Azubu/Gambit are in. MYM can't make it. Shame, I really enjoyed Czaru's play. | ||
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ExoFun
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On January 19 2013 03:59 TheYango wrote: I don't think that solves the issue either, though it lessens it if you believe that 1st pick has a significant draft advantage. If you think the draft advantage is significant in relation to the map advantage, then it should be purple team that gets 1st ban/1st pick. Or one team picks drafting order and the other picks side of field. No reason that you have to hard-link drafting order to side of field. | ||
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ExoFun
Netherlands2041 Posts
Azubu wins against Curse, while Gambit beat MYM. Teams to advance from Group A are Gambit and Azubu. #IEM #Katowice pic.twitter.com/5XqQW9x4 | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On January 19 2013 04:05 ExoFun wrote: https://twitter.com/IEM/status/292346543187578880 pic.twitter.com/5XqQW9x4 That pic is Crs vs Gambit, not Crs vs Blaze >< IEM fucking up again? | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On January 19 2013 04:03 Lounge wrote: MYM vs Curse ~22:20 MYM Curse vs Gambit ~32:50 Curse Gambit vs MYM ~26:00 Gambit So if Curse wins Azubu/Curse is in, if Azubu wins Azubu/Gambit are in. MYM can't make it. Shame, I really enjoyed Czaru's play. Curse was already reported to have lost against Blaze. | ||
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