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On January 21 2013 03:19 OutlaW- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 03:17 GregMandel wrote:On January 21 2013 03:14 OutlaW- wrote:On January 21 2013 03:13 GregMandel wrote:On January 21 2013 03:11 Numy wrote:On January 21 2013 03:09 GregMandel wrote:
man, koreans surrendering.
AZB gonna enter 2nd match with a really bitter taste in their mouth, and Cpt Jack even more than the rest of his team.
I call GBG 2-0 on this one Sometimes surrendering is better than fighting hard and losing badly. Just wipe it clean and forget about game 1 then go into game 2 normally. Well usually they ( Chinese/Koreans ) fight as long as they can ( Dat match with the 3 inhib down comeback ), it felt more like a frustration surrend from Cpt Jack ( even though this is purely guessing ) than a " let's move on onto the next one " they might prove me wrong tho, even though i'd really like GBG to win ! Only because they are so serious. But have you seen korean soloq games? It's very common for everybody to go AFK at 15 minutes if the game is going very badly. Someone from CLG I think said that Koreans get discouraged to play easily. So ... are you backing me up or what ? XD I don't get the point you're trying to make, of course on the ladder it's trolling, but this isnt ladder at all ! and when you say the ydiscouraged easily, well having to surrend looks more than enough for them to be discouraged and enter game 2 with a moral disadvantage I'm saying that it's not that surprising. As someone already said, Azubu were never going to win that game. Rather than trying their hardest for nothing and then being mentally and physically exhausted for the next games, they decided to completely wipe the slate clean and go into the next game with a refreshed mindset.
Oh okay, i didnt see why you woud talk about the ladder games cause we all know in LoL and in SC2 koreans just troll on the ladder ( less common in sc2 now )
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On January 21 2013 03:18 Vlanitak wrote:Almost 300k people watching the differente LoL streams alone, plus the SC2 stream number I think its been a good few days for IEM, ESL and Esports 
I hope so... they deserve it for this event.
On that note, why did they put it in this giant stadium? They were always known for doing events at convention centers along with other things going on, but this seems to be a standalone. Is there other stuff at this stadium which is why they are there, or did they decide to do a standalone event?
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On January 21 2013 03:20 SHr3DD3r wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 03:18 Vlanitak wrote:Almost 300k people watching the differente LoL streams alone, plus the SC2 stream number I think its been a good few days for IEM, ESL and Esports Besides the shitty stream and shitty crap between games and shitty tiebreaking rules, yes.
shitty tie-breaking rules that made the team to beat 2 of the best korean teams move on
I guess you could say that in this case the end justifies the means
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On January 21 2013 03:19 jcc wrote:
EZREAL REAL BALANCED CHARACTER zzzz, my hate for that character knows no bounds. They ban out Cptjack to set up for a super bully lane that is rough to deal with aside from utilizing MF or maybe urgot. But to be fair, azubu blaze made a TERRIBLE call by picking kog nunu knowing Genja has been spamming ezreal games, kog nunu is too ez to counter with ezreal sona/ lulu. I feel like they were expecting that gambit was expecting azubu to 2v1 top, so they went bot, but they didn't metagame them, so they just got screwed in lane.
Anyway ezreal is dumb, and they just played strong lanes. Though flame stomping darien surprised me, that was a lane i expected vlad to lose.
Stomp? think ur hate towards M5 seems to be blinding u, couple cs ahead and a tower dive with shen is hardly a stomp
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On January 21 2013 03:19 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 03:17 Numy wrote:On January 21 2013 03:15 little fancy wrote:On January 21 2013 03:12 nxk wrote:
Btw, what was the purpose of full tank Vladimir?
It's bruiser Vlad which seems common in s3. Starts with Warmogs for laning then adds AP items (hextech, Deathcap). Too bad that the laning phase was over at the Warmogs stage... But isn't the ratio AP to HP much more effective than HP to AP? I mean, even if it gets beyond laning phase, I can't imagine him being a threat at all when going Mercs / Tabi / Warmog's / Chain Vest or Negatron... I don't think he was meant to be a threat. They had Ryze and Kog for their big threats. So I think the logic was he does well in lane(Dunno Youngbuck quotes here) and then has damage amplification on his ulti so he can build tanky while helping out the two big threats. Yeah, Korean teams will usually favor extra utility and tankiness instead of having another glass cannon.
The only real utility Vlad has imo is his ult damage amplifier. And maybe his W when he ghosts into 5 people and tries to slow them l0l. If it was for tanky utility, I think there have been better choices.
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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On January 21 2013 03:23 OutlaW- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 03:20 SHr3DD3r wrote:On January 21 2013 03:18 Vlanitak wrote:Almost 300k people watching the differente LoL streams alone, plus the SC2 stream number I think its been a good few days for IEM, ESL and Esports Besides the shitty stream and shitty crap between games and shitty tiebreaking rules, yes. shitty tie-breaking rules that made the team to beat 2 of the best korean teams move on I guess you could say that in this case the end justifies the means
While it's been good games, the rule is still bad though
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On January 21 2013 03:22 nxk wrote:
Pretty sure that Azubu chose the standard lanes on purpose. Vlad was a counterpick for Renekton (and it worked). Kog is one of the better lanes against Ez - in fact we've seen Kog beat Ez in lane several times in this tournament I believe. Well done by GG making the perfect counterplay though.
Not with nunu though.Especially not vs gosu pepper who is famous for both his nunu and sona lol.....
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what the fuckkk, call from outer space
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On January 21 2013 03:23 OutlaW- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 03:20 SHr3DD3r wrote:On January 21 2013 03:18 Vlanitak wrote:Almost 300k people watching the differente LoL streams alone, plus the SC2 stream number I think its been a good few days for IEM, ESL and Esports Besides the shitty stream and shitty crap between games and shitty tiebreaking rules, yes. shitty tie-breaking rules that made the team to beat 2 of the best korean teams move on I guess you could say that in this case the end justifies the means
It is still unfair for the other two teams that got eliminated due to the time rule, because you can't outright say that they wouldn't pull off the same performance as GG (especially how crappy GG played the first day as well), so it's still a shitty rule nonetheless
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On January 21 2013 03:19 OutlaW- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 03:17 GregMandel wrote:On January 21 2013 03:14 OutlaW- wrote:On January 21 2013 03:13 GregMandel wrote:On January 21 2013 03:11 Numy wrote:On January 21 2013 03:09 GregMandel wrote:
man, koreans surrendering.
AZB gonna enter 2nd match with a really bitter taste in their mouth, and Cpt Jack even more than the rest of his team.
I call GBG 2-0 on this one Sometimes surrendering is better than fighting hard and losing badly. Just wipe it clean and forget about game 1 then go into game 2 normally. Well usually they ( Chinese/Koreans ) fight as long as they can ( Dat match with the 3 inhib down comeback ), it felt more like a frustration surrend from Cpt Jack ( even though this is purely guessing ) than a " let's move on onto the next one " they might prove me wrong tho, even though i'd really like GBG to win ! Only because they are so serious. But have you seen korean soloq games? It's very common for everybody to go AFK at 15 minutes if the game is going very badly. Someone from CLG I think said that Koreans get discouraged to play easily. So ... are you backing me up or what ? XD I don't get the point you're trying to make, of course on the ladder it's trolling, but this isnt ladder at all ! and when you say the ydiscouraged easily, well having to surrend looks more than enough for them to be discouraged and enter game 2 with a moral disadvantage I'm saying that it's not that surprising. As someone already said, Azubu were never going to win that game. Rather than trying their hardest for nothing and then being mentally and physically exhausted for the next games, they decided to completely wipe the slate clean and go into the next game with a refreshed mindset.
Yeah pretty much what Outlaw wrote. It's a common occurrence in tournament play, whether you're talking about an e-sport like LoL/SC2, or a physical sport such as Tennis.
The idea being when you're so far down you have no chance of winning the game/set or whatever, that you conserve your energy/ mental freshness so you're in a better position to win the next game.
It actually makes them more of a threat going into this next game.
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On January 21 2013 03:23 daSilvaz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 03:19 jcc wrote:
EZREAL REAL BALANCED CHARACTER zzzz, my hate for that character knows no bounds. They ban out Cptjack to set up for a super bully lane that is rough to deal with aside from utilizing MF or maybe urgot. But to be fair, azubu blaze made a TERRIBLE call by picking kog nunu knowing Genja has been spamming ezreal games, kog nunu is too ez to counter with ezreal sona/ lulu. I feel like they were expecting that gambit was expecting azubu to 2v1 top, so they went bot, but they didn't metagame them, so they just got screwed in lane.
Anyway ezreal is dumb, and they just played strong lanes. Though flame stomping darien surprised me, that was a lane i expected vlad to lose. Stomp? think ur hate towards M5 seems to be blinding u, couple cs ahead and a tower dive with shen is hardly a stomp
In top tier play, a kill and 30 cs up is quite a stomp as far as top lane goes, ESPECIALLY from the viewpoint of a vladimir, which is a character that rarely wins lane ever anymore.
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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
"Bar of Legends" is such a bad name. "Pub Stomp" is so much better.
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its so tough to be a nunu vs a sona/ez lane, nunu haatttess to be poked
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about 250.000 ppl on the streams i know
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On January 21 2013 03:20 SHr3DD3r wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 03:18 Vlanitak wrote:Almost 300k people watching the differente LoL streams alone, plus the SC2 stream number I think its been a good few days for IEM, ESL and Esports Besides the shitty stream and shitty crap between games and shitty tiebreaking rules, yes.
Aww, I'm sorry you don't like your free tournament with amazing games. You poor baby.
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On January 21 2013 03:24 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 03:22 nxk wrote:
Pretty sure that Azubu chose the standard lanes on purpose. Vlad was a counterpick for Renekton (and it worked). Kog is one of the better lanes against Ez - in fact we've seen Kog beat Ez in lane several times in this tournament I believe. Well done by GG making the perfect counterplay though. Not with nunu though.Especially not vs gosu pepper who is famous for both his nunu and sona lol.....
Picking kog nunu knowing ezreal and lulu/sona are open are essentially handing the bot lane to gambit
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On January 21 2013 03:23 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 03:18 Vlanitak wrote:Almost 300k people watching the differente LoL streams alone, plus the SC2 stream number I think its been a good few days for IEM, ESL and Esports I hope so... they deserve it for this event. On that note, why did they put it in this giant stadium? They were always known for doing events at convention centers along with other things going on, but this seems to be a standalone. Is there other stuff at this stadium which is why they are there, or did they decide to do a standalone event?
Think they wanted it as a standalone, and they are doing free entry for anyone who gets there before it fills up.
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