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MagnusWolf
Profile Joined November 2011
United States483 Posts
January 20 2013 18:11 GMT
#2221
It looked like Diamond maxed Q>W>E on mundo, I've never seen that before, can someone explain?
http://www.twitch.tv/magnuswolf sometimes I stream, sometimes I don't
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
January 20 2013 18:12 GMT
#2222
So what's the official count on teams that have taken a game off M5/GBG in a LAN? TSM, CLG.eu, fnatic, TPA, and now Curse and AZB - thats all, right?
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
January 20 2013 18:12 GMT
#2223
Holy shit Gambit slaughtering on the final day.
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Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
January 20 2013 18:12 GMT
#2224
I think M5 has a really good advantage from playing & winning the semifinal right before the final, it gives you a big amount of confidence and they clearly show it
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
January 20 2013 18:12 GMT
#2225

Btw, what was the purpose of full tank Vladimir?


It's bruiser Vlad which seems common in s3. Starts with Warmogs for laning then adds AP items (hextech, Deathcap). Too bad that the laning phase was over at the Warmogs stage...
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
January 20 2013 18:12 GMT
#2226
On January 21 2013 03:09 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Wow. I wasn't sure whether GG would be able to overcome their Sona going 3-0, but somehow they did! Awesome job by GG!!


lol what?

I mean sure the kills might have been better on other champions but it's not like it's a negative thing you have to overcome.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 20 2013 18:12 GMT
#2227
On January 21 2013 03:11 MagnusWolf wrote:
It looked like Diamond maxed Q>W>E on mundo, I've never seen that before, can someone explain?

It's standard to get 3 points into W and then start maxing Q. If Diamond went 1 level to W then Q then that's baller man-mode that relies on a lot of ganking to actually work. My guess is that he was level 4 with 2 points in W when he saw that they are completely destroying mid and bottom so he just started maxing cleaver
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UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
January 20 2013 18:13 GMT
#2228
On January 21 2013 03:11 MagnusWolf wrote:
It looked like Diamond maxed Q>W>E on mundo, I've never seen that before, can someone explain?

I thought it was w,q,e he had 3 in q, 3 in w, 1 in e, and 1 in ult at level 8.
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 18:13:27
January 20 2013 18:13 GMT
#2229
Ouch, I didnt know ez+sona did so well against kog+nunu at lower levels ... maybe that was the whole plan behind the MF and Cait bans?
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GregMandel
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
France822 Posts
January 20 2013 18:13 GMT
#2230
On January 21 2013 03:11 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 03:09 GregMandel wrote:
man, koreans surrendering.

AZB gonna enter 2nd match with a really bitter taste in their mouth, and Cpt Jack even more than the rest of his team.

I call GBG 2-0 on this one


Sometimes surrendering is better than fighting hard and losing badly. Just wipe it clean and forget about game 1 then go into game 2 normally.


Well usually they ( Chinese/Koreans ) fight as long as they can ( Dat match with the 3 inhib down comeback ), it felt more like a frustration surrend from Cpt Jack ( even though this is purely guessing ) than a " let's move on onto the next one "

they might prove me wrong tho, even though i'd really like GBG to win !
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lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
January 20 2013 18:13 GMT
#2231
On January 21 2013 03:12 Keniji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 03:09 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Wow. I wasn't sure whether GG would be able to overcome their Sona going 3-0, but somehow they did! Awesome job by GG!!


lol what?

I mean sure the kills might have been better on other champions but it's not like it's a negative thing you have to overcome.

If Jack had managed to pick up a kill on Sona it would have become negative pretty quickly. But in this case it didn't end up having any impact.
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
January 20 2013 18:13 GMT
#2232
On January 21 2013 03:12 Keniji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 03:09 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Wow. I wasn't sure whether GG would be able to overcome their Sona going 3-0, but somehow they did! Awesome job by GG!!


lol what?

I mean sure the kills might have been better on other champions but it's not like it's a negative thing you have to overcome.

But... that's not what the casters told me. :-(
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
January 20 2013 18:14 GMT
#2233
On January 21 2013 03:13 Sbrubbles wrote:
Ouch, I didnt know ez+sona did so well against kog+nunu at lower levels ... maybe that was the whole plan behind the MF and Cait bans?

Ez+Sona heavy poke lane. Bring them low, then dive them and clean up for kills.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 20 2013 18:14 GMT
#2234
On January 21 2013 03:11 MagnusWolf wrote:
It looked like Diamond maxed Q>W>E on mundo, I've never seen that before, can someone explain?

Poke all day. I don't think maxing W is that interesting in the current patch btw, with the reduced small monsters' HP. Maybe 2-3 levels of it, then max Q or E. E farms better, Q pokes better.
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nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
January 20 2013 18:14 GMT
#2235
Before even the FB there was that lvl 2 play by Genja that nearly killed Cpt Jack, too bad that the cameraman almost missed it and the replay didn't show it. That was the first thing that set Kog behind.
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
January 20 2013 18:14 GMT
#2236
On January 21 2013 03:11 MagnusWolf wrote:
It looked like Diamond maxed Q>W>E on mundo, I've never seen that before, can someone explain?


cleaver is hp%, and azubu had quite the tanky team, only exception being kog. sona, ez, mundo poke rapes you hard, especially when youre that far behind and you cant hold any tower or contest any objectives.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 20 2013 18:14 GMT
#2237
On January 21 2013 03:13 GregMandel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 03:11 Numy wrote:
On January 21 2013 03:09 GregMandel wrote:
man, koreans surrendering.

AZB gonna enter 2nd match with a really bitter taste in their mouth, and Cpt Jack even more than the rest of his team.

I call GBG 2-0 on this one


Sometimes surrendering is better than fighting hard and losing badly. Just wipe it clean and forget about game 1 then go into game 2 normally.


Well usually they ( Chinese/Koreans ) fight as long as they can ( Dat match with the 3 inhib down comeback ), it felt more like a frustration surrend from Cpt Jack ( even though this is purely guessing ) than a " let's move on onto the next one "

they might prove me wrong tho, even though i'd really like GBG to win !

Only because they are so serious. But have you seen korean soloq games? It's very common for everybody to go AFK at 15 minutes if the game is going very badly. Someone from CLG I think said that Koreans get discouraged to play easily.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
January 20 2013 18:15 GMT
#2238
On January 21 2013 03:13 Sbrubbles wrote:
Ouch, I didnt know ez+sona did so well against kog+nunu at lower levels ... maybe that was the whole plan behind the MF and Cait bans?


EZ + Sona has insane poke and decent sustain. Kog has no sustain and it's too weak early on. Also, they got ganked a lot.
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little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
January 20 2013 18:15 GMT
#2239
On January 21 2013 03:12 nxk wrote:
Show nested quote +

Btw, what was the purpose of full tank Vladimir?


It's bruiser Vlad which seems common in s3. Starts with Warmogs for laning then adds AP items (hextech, Deathcap). Too bad that the laning phase was over at the Warmogs stage...


But isn't the ratio AP to HP much more effective than HP to AP? I mean, even if it gets beyond laning phase, I can't imagine him being a threat at all when going Mercs / Tabi / Warmog's / Chain Vest or Negatron...
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
January 20 2013 18:15 GMT
#2240
On January 21 2013 03:13 Sbrubbles wrote:
Ouch, I didnt know ez+sona did so well against kog+nunu at lower levels ... maybe that was the whole plan behind the MF and Cait bans?

kog had to base at lvl1 cuz he lost 95% of hp to poke the lane was lost at this point and they never could even come close to cs
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