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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 20 2013 18:16 GMT
#2241
On January 21 2013 03:12 Keniji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 03:09 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Wow. I wasn't sure whether GG would be able to overcome their Sona going 3-0, but somehow they did! Awesome job by GG!!


lol what?

I mean sure the kills might have been better on other champions but it's not like it's a negative thing you have to overcome.



alkso, supports getting an early kill or two is actually really helpful since they get the whole sightstone gp5 machine started and ward the whole map for the rest of the game.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 20 2013 18:16 GMT
#2242
On January 21 2013 03:15 little fancy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 03:12 nxk wrote:

Btw, what was the purpose of full tank Vladimir?


It's bruiser Vlad which seems common in s3. Starts with Warmogs for laning then adds AP items (hextech, Deathcap). Too bad that the laning phase was over at the Warmogs stage...


But isn't the ratio AP to HP much more effective than HP to AP? I mean, even if it gets beyond laning phase, I can't imagine him being a threat at all when going Mercs / Tabi / Warmog's / Chain Vest or Negatron...

Yes. It's basically a build that makes you not die but also delays your usefulness (especially in short fights like Eve and Sona force) by a long time. It would have made more sense to go glass cannon Vlad and hope for something
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
January 20 2013 18:17 GMT
#2243
Actually without ganks Kog+Nunu will outtrade Ez+Sona eventually unless Ezreal manages to get ahead very early on - which they did here causing Kog to go to base at lvl 2, and then got the FB and then the doublekill dive.
GregMandel
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
France822 Posts
January 20 2013 18:17 GMT
#2244
On January 21 2013 03:14 OutlaW- wrote:
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On January 21 2013 03:13 GregMandel wrote:
On January 21 2013 03:11 Numy wrote:
On January 21 2013 03:09 GregMandel wrote:
man, koreans surrendering.

AZB gonna enter 2nd match with a really bitter taste in their mouth, and Cpt Jack even more than the rest of his team.

I call GBG 2-0 on this one


Sometimes surrendering is better than fighting hard and losing badly. Just wipe it clean and forget about game 1 then go into game 2 normally.


Well usually they ( Chinese/Koreans ) fight as long as they can ( Dat match with the 3 inhib down comeback ), it felt more like a frustration surrend from Cpt Jack ( even though this is purely guessing ) than a " let's move on onto the next one "

they might prove me wrong tho, even though i'd really like GBG to win !

Only because they are so serious. But have you seen korean soloq games? It's very common for everybody to go AFK at 15 minutes if the game is going very badly. Someone from CLG I think said that Koreans get discouraged to play easily.


So ... are you backing me up or what ? XD
I don't get the point you're trying to make, of course on the ladder it's trolling, but this isnt ladder at all !
and when you say the ydiscouraged easily, well having to surrend looks more than enough for them to be discouraged and enter game 2 with a moral disadvantage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8QLNiolfk - Racing with the sun
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 20 2013 18:17 GMT
#2245
I hope they do picks/bans soon, I want to watch part of the match before I have to leave for work lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 20 2013 18:17 GMT
#2246
On January 21 2013 03:15 little fancy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 03:12 nxk wrote:

Btw, what was the purpose of full tank Vladimir?


It's bruiser Vlad which seems common in s3. Starts with Warmogs for laning then adds AP items (hextech, Deathcap). Too bad that the laning phase was over at the Warmogs stage...


But isn't the ratio AP to HP much more effective than HP to AP? I mean, even if it gets beyond laning phase, I can't imagine him being a threat at all when going Mercs / Tabi / Warmog's / Chain Vest or Negatron...


I don't think he was meant to be a threat. They had Ryze and Kog for their big threats. So I think the logic was he does well in lane(Dunno Youngbuck quotes here) and then has damage amplification on his ulti so he can build tanky while helping out the two big threats.
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
January 20 2013 18:18 GMT
#2247
Almost 300k people watching the differente LoL streams alone, plus the SC2 stream number I think its been a good few days for IEM, ESL and Esports
washed
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
January 20 2013 18:18 GMT
#2248
did he give them apples? wtf
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
January 20 2013 18:18 GMT
#2249
On January 21 2013 03:17 onlywonderboy wrote:
I hope they do picks/bans soon, I want to watch part of the match before I have to leave for work lol.


Working on sunday? My condolences ...
Bora Pain minha porra!
napo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania622 Posts
January 20 2013 18:18 GMT
#2250
Stream lag, stream lag everywhere. 8-|
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
January 20 2013 18:19 GMT
#2251
Wait, this is only a Bo3? dafuq?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 20 2013 18:19 GMT
#2252
On January 21 2013 03:17 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 03:15 little fancy wrote:
On January 21 2013 03:12 nxk wrote:

Btw, what was the purpose of full tank Vladimir?


It's bruiser Vlad which seems common in s3. Starts with Warmogs for laning then adds AP items (hextech, Deathcap). Too bad that the laning phase was over at the Warmogs stage...


But isn't the ratio AP to HP much more effective than HP to AP? I mean, even if it gets beyond laning phase, I can't imagine him being a threat at all when going Mercs / Tabi / Warmog's / Chain Vest or Negatron...


I don't think he was meant to be a threat. They had Ryze and Kog for their big threats. So I think the logic was he does well in lane(Dunno Youngbuck quotes here) and then has damage amplification on his ulti so he can build tanky while helping out the two big threats.

Yeah, Korean teams will usually favor extra utility and tankiness instead of having another glass cannon.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 20 2013 18:19 GMT
#2253
On January 21 2013 03:17 GregMandel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 03:14 OutlaW- wrote:
On January 21 2013 03:13 GregMandel wrote:
On January 21 2013 03:11 Numy wrote:
On January 21 2013 03:09 GregMandel wrote:
man, koreans surrendering.

AZB gonna enter 2nd match with a really bitter taste in their mouth, and Cpt Jack even more than the rest of his team.

I call GBG 2-0 on this one


Sometimes surrendering is better than fighting hard and losing badly. Just wipe it clean and forget about game 1 then go into game 2 normally.


Well usually they ( Chinese/Koreans ) fight as long as they can ( Dat match with the 3 inhib down comeback ), it felt more like a frustration surrend from Cpt Jack ( even though this is purely guessing ) than a " let's move on onto the next one "

they might prove me wrong tho, even though i'd really like GBG to win !

Only because they are so serious. But have you seen korean soloq games? It's very common for everybody to go AFK at 15 minutes if the game is going very badly. Someone from CLG I think said that Koreans get discouraged to play easily.


So ... are you backing me up or what ? XD
I don't get the point you're trying to make, of course on the ladder it's trolling, but this isnt ladder at all !
and when you say the ydiscouraged easily, well having to surrend looks more than enough for them to be discouraged and enter game 2 with a moral disadvantage

I'm saying that it's not that surprising. As someone already said, Azubu were never going to win that game. Rather than trying their hardest for nothing and then being mentally and physically exhausted for the next games, they decided to completely wipe the slate clean and go into the next game with a refreshed mindset.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
jcc
Profile Joined January 2011
United States472 Posts
January 20 2013 18:19 GMT
#2254
EZREAL REAL BALANCED CHARACTER zzzz, my hate for that character knows no bounds. They ban out Cptjack to set up for a super bully lane that is rough to deal with aside from utilizing MF or maybe urgot. But to be fair, azubu blaze made a TERRIBLE call by picking kog nunu knowing Genja has been spamming ezreal games, kog nunu is too ez to counter with ezreal sona/ lulu. I feel like they were expecting that gambit was expecting azubu to 2v1 top, so they went bot, but they didn't metagame them, so they just got screwed in lane.

Anyway ezreal is dumb, and they just played strong lanes. Though flame stomping darien surprised me, that was a lane i expected vlad to lose.
http://broukej.cz/lol-signatures/GGod_na_103_4_logo.png
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 20 2013 18:20 GMT
#2255
On January 21 2013 03:18 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 03:17 onlywonderboy wrote:
I hope they do picks/bans soon, I want to watch part of the match before I have to leave for work lol.


Working on sunday? My condolences ...

Nah, it's just a scrub college job, I only work every other weekend and a few days through the week.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
January 20 2013 18:20 GMT
#2256
On January 21 2013 03:18 Vlanitak wrote:
Almost 300k people watching the differente LoL streams alone, plus the SC2 stream number I think its been a good few days for IEM, ESL and Esports

Besides the shitty stream and shitty crap between games and shitty tiebreaking rules, yes.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 20 2013 18:21 GMT
#2257
On January 21 2013 03:20 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 03:18 Vlanitak wrote:
Almost 300k people watching the differente LoL streams alone, plus the SC2 stream number I think its been a good few days for IEM, ESL and Esports

Besides the shitty stream and shitty crap between games and shitty tiebreaking rules, yes.

The live venue looks really nice though lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
January 20 2013 18:22 GMT
#2258
On January 21 2013 03:20 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 03:18 Vlanitak wrote:
Almost 300k people watching the differente LoL streams alone, plus the SC2 stream number I think its been a good few days for IEM, ESL and Esports

Besides the shitty stream and shitty crap between games and shitty tiebreaking rules, yes.


lol, damn bro relax.
jcc
Profile Joined January 2011
United States472 Posts
January 20 2013 18:22 GMT
#2259
On January 21 2013 03:13 UnKooL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 03:11 MagnusWolf wrote:
It looked like Diamond maxed Q>W>E on mundo, I've never seen that before, can someone explain?

I thought it was w,q,e he had 3 in q, 3 in w, 1 in e, and 1 in ult at level 8.


you max W to lvl 3 by 5, then you start maxing Q, thats standard mundo. you never actually MAX W first, thats bad and just drains hp. especially in the new jungle which punishes heavy aoe junglers.
http://broukej.cz/lol-signatures/GGod_na_103_4_logo.png
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 18:23:29
January 20 2013 18:22 GMT
#2260
Pretty sure that Azubu chose the standard lanes on purpose. Vlad was a counterpick for Renekton (and it worked). Kog Nunu is one of the better lanes against Ez - in fact we've seen Kog beat Ez in lane several times in this tournament I believe. Well done by GG making the perfect counterplay though.
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