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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
On October 06 2012 10:41 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: ? It's harder to gauge for the duo lanes since it's also more complex, but the amount of solo outplays we saw in mid/top by Asians were pretty convincing. Mainly top, God damn do NA tops blow hard. Mid was mostly even from the games I saw. Trading kills and CS relatively close. | ||
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henrikyo
Norway755 Posts
On October 06 2012 10:39 Shivaz wrote: clg na obviously best na team only one to win 1 game rofl, would have won more but purple side op Dont start. Thats the mentality of NA teams. Chauster saying "we prepared tactics for one side of the map" Who fucking does that? i mean seriously. ITs a coin flip if you get blue or purple in group stage. Who comes to an event preparing tactics from only one side. Mind BLOWN | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
On October 06 2012 10:40 TheYango wrote: I'm not sure how popular and interested NA viewers will remain when their home teams lose in 20 minutes to every notable EU/Asian team. Don't be so harsh, it's not like all of the NA viewers stopped watching DotA after the first Day of the main event at TI2. They're not going to stop watching LoL tommorow either now that all the NA teams are gone NA can also always USA USA behind M5/Na'Vi/Stephano | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 06 2012 10:44 Kupon3ss wrote: Don't be so harsh, it's not like all of the NA viewers stopped watching DotA after the first Day of the main event at TI2. NA can also always USA USA behind M5/Na'Vi/Stephano Point taken. | ||
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RealQ
1120 Posts
On October 06 2012 10:42 Woony wrote: People in the US still seem to watch starcraft. Although to be honest I doubt how much longer that is going to last. Well teams like EG can just keep importing Europeans and all americans can keep chanting USA USA USA when stephano wins something. Thats why they will still watch. | ||
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1ntrigue
Australia948 Posts
On October 06 2012 10:21 QuakerOats wrote: BW wasn't too bad, we had Nony and Idra! Lol, I hope that was sarcasm. | ||
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
On October 06 2012 10:44 Kupon3ss wrote: Don't be so harsh, it's not like all of the NA viewers stopped watching DotA after the first Day of the main event at TI2. They're not going to stop watching LoL tommorow either now that all the NA teams are gone NA can also always USA USA behind M5/Na'Vi/Stephano One tournament, shure but long-term it becomes a problem. I'm not shure if most people are still going to watch MLG in a year or two when every tournament is 90% koreans. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On October 06 2012 10:46 Woony wrote: One tournament, shure but long-term it becomes a problem. I'm not shure if most people are still going to watch MLG in a year or two when every tournament is 90% koreans. It isn't a problem when your tournament structure is region vs. region vs. region vs. region, which is where tournaments are moving towards. The way Dota and LoL run their tournaments you won't ever have a tournament with 90% Koreans. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
There were some pretty good American players, not only those two who were the last along with Assem. The difference wasn't as pronounced earlier in the scene but yes later it was just complete domination as Korea became increasingly structured and professionalized and everyone else didn't | ||
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
On October 06 2012 10:46 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: or you can just enjoy good games as an American. Doesn't matter who is playing ^_^ Team loyalty is merely something interesting to do on the side imo The hardcore crowd, shure, but like in sports most people watch more because of the teams/players and less because of the actual game. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
Was it to build hype for the finals for a week? What happens if finals is Frost vs TPA? Will people still get hyped for it or will nobody end up showing up for the finals? | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
No its actually true. NA's BW is not that bad. Since everybody can't beat Koreans, thats where the word foreigners come from. NA's BW can hold its own against EU/Non-Korean. But people back then are much more solid than nowadays. Today you can do nothing, just stream you eating and still there are 20k watching you. | ||
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
On October 06 2012 10:47 Azarkon wrote: It isn't a problem when your tournament structure is region vs. region vs. region vs. region, which is where tournaments are moving towards. The way Dota and LoL run their tournaments you won't ever have a tournament with 90% Koreans. I was obviously referring to the other case ie. MLG. MLG is in a pretty bad spot because they can't just stop inviting koreans. | ||
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Killcani
Sweden448 Posts
On October 06 2012 10:46 Woony wrote: One tournament, shure but long-term it becomes a problem. I'm not shure if most people are still going to watch MLG in a year or two when every tournament is 90% koreans. I think this it is really important not to let it be 90% koreans as it kills the eu/na scenes. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
On October 06 2012 10:48 Canucklehead wrote: Can anyone tell me why they split the finals up to be next week? Seems inconvenient for anybody out of town having to spend an extra week in LA. Was it to build hype for the finals for a week? What happens if finals is Frost vs TPA? Will people still get hyped for it or will nobody end up showing up for the finals? Somewhat of a good point. I would hope that people would still appreciate high level play regardless of who it is but the majority of people are more casual fans who don't care as much when their team goes out. This is less pronounced in Esports then in Sports though I think. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On October 06 2012 10:49 Caphe wrote: No its actually true. NA's BW is not that bad. Since everybody can't beat Koreans, thats where the word foreigners come from. NA's BW can hold its own against EU/Non-Korean. But people back then are much more solid than nowadays. Today you can do nothing, just stream you eating and still there are 20k watching you. You mean the difference between BW and LoL is that NA BW is so poor that people don't even IMAGINE NA to win against Koreans.... whereas for LoL people have the FALSE ILLUSION that an NA team can win. | ||
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
On October 06 2012 10:49 Caphe wrote: No its actually true. NA's BW is not that bad. Since everybody can't beat Koreans, thats where the word foreigners come from. NA's BW can hold its own against EU/Non-Korean. But people back then are much more solid than nowadays. Today you can do nothing, just stream you eating and still there are 20k watching you. NA BW was not that bad because everybody in europe played wc3 from 2002 onwards. If you look at SC2 nowadays most of the best foreigners are ex-wc3 players. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On October 06 2012 10:44 RealQ wrote: Well teams like EG can just keep importing Europeans and all americans can keep chanting USA USA USA when stephano wins something. Thats why they will still watch. This thread has become too cute. NA going to continue to get trashed by EU teams? lol. They split 1-1 this tournament. I would hope CLG.eu will be able to beat WE, considering weak NA curse team, not even at this tournament did so. EU trying to get on a high horse for this game too? Appears so, I guess I'll try and make time to watch that series tomorrow. Then this circle of spit can continue about how the EU teams are going to continue to disappoint. | ||
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