Gromp(S)/Blue/Red(S)/Krugs, top of map. You have to kite properly and Q when Blue/Red wind up their attack animation to minimize the damage you take. You can Krugs but I usually end with under 100 hp, so careful.
Krugs(S)/Red/Gromp(S)/Blue/possibly Wolves/Raptors, bottom of map. Length of first run is entirely dependent on the kind of leash you get.
Worst case scenario, you can finish three camps easy, then do Skuttle if you're too low to do a fourth. Normally I don't bother with Skuttle on first run as Sej.
(S) for when I Smite.

SHr3DD3r

Pakistan2137 Posts

March 19 2015 14:57 GMT

#163

Sejuani was strong before teh patch. And now.. o god. pls

Fildun

Netherlands4122 Posts

March 19 2015 15:15 GMT

#164

I usually go gromp (S), blue, wolves, wraiths, red (S), krugs. Then I base and I have red buff and level 4 so I can gank and/or place wards safely.

Ketara

United States15065 Posts

March 19 2015 15:32 GMT

#165

You should always start gromp > blue regardless of what side you're on.

I'm surprised you guys aren't doing 6 camp clears, too. If you're under 100 HP after 4 camps neo you're not clearing properly, you should post a video. You can do 6 as either 21/9 or 9/21.

I tried out zac yesterday when sej was banned, I like him.

Gahlo

United States35118 Posts

March 19 2015 15:40 GMT

#166

I start on the top side of the jungle so my bot lane can get an early level 2. I also don't value the 6 camp clear because I prefer to pick up the +15g from the smite upgrade faster.

MidnightGladius

China1214 Posts

March 19 2015 16:35 GMT

#167

I value the extra EXP over the extra gold and do Gromp->Blue->Wolf->Wraith->Red->Krugs->Crab. However, I take 4/12/14 runes for 3 biscuits, so I have 75% health for a level 4 gank with Q, E, and red buff. In my personal experience, a lot of laners don't ward for that gank timing from Sejuani, though this may have changed as she's been played more recently (I haven't had a chance to play in the last couple of weeks).

Gahlo

United States35118 Posts

March 19 2015 19:46 GMT

#168

On March 20 2015 01:35 MidnightGladius wrote:
I value the extra EXP over the extra gold and do Gromp->Blue->Wolf->Wraith->Red->Krugs->Crab. However, I take 4/12/14 runes for 3 biscuits, so I have 75% health for a level 4 gank with Q, E, and red buff. In my personal experience, a lot of laners don't ward for that gank timing from Sejuani, though this may have changed as she's been played more recently (I haven't had a chance to play in the last couple of weeks).

I don't think you actually gain more camps though. By the time you back, I'll already be out there on the camps again. Meanwhile, I'll be able to spend more time with the bonus gold, stronger version of the Jungler passive, and Blasting Smite.

Ketara

United States15065 Posts

March 19 2015 19:55 GMT

#169

You have more gold at level 6 if you do a full clear.

If you do a partial clear you have Stalkers + Ruby + Boots + Pots at 6, if you do a full clear you can also have a pink ward.

MidnightGladius

China1214 Posts

March 19 2015 19:57 GMT

#170

My reasoning is that you want to kill every camp ASAP to start its respawn timer, because the camps stay at level 1 until they've respawned once, and that reduces the amount of EXP you get from them. You're certainly right about the bonus gold/machete upgrade, but I'm not sure where the exact break-point is, and I'm personally more comfortable with the timings of 6 camps, crab, gank, back. I'm only Plat 3, so this could just be an artifact of low-level play, but I feel like backing after 3 or 4 camps closes the door on a lot of potential early plays, especially if their laners expect me to be back/buying at that time.

Gahlo

United States35118 Posts

March 19 2015 20:00 GMT

#171

On March 20 2015 04:55 Ketara wrote:
You have more gold at level 6 if you do a full clear.

If you do a partial clear you have Stalkers + Ruby + Boots + Pots at 6, if you do a full clear you can also have a pink ward.

How could that possibly be true? It still requires the same amount of camps and doing a full clear leaves you 15g behind for each camp you take after you could have backed for Smite upgrade.

Ketara

United States15065 Posts

March 19 2015 20:04 GMT

#172

Because if you do a partial clear your clear goes like this:

First clear -> 3 camps -> Buy stalkers

Second clear -> 5 camps -> Buy boots / ruby

Third clear -> 3 camps -> Level 6 -> gank

If you do a full clear it goes like this:

First clear -> 6 camps -> Buy Stalkers / Boots

Second clear -> 4 camps -> Buy ruby

Third clear -> 1 camp -> Level 6 -> Gank

Basically, you have 100 more gold on the second base because you've done 10 camps instead of 8.

Fildun

Netherlands4122 Posts

March 19 2015 20:05 GMT

#173

Do none of you buy wards on first pick or something? Like, how do you have money for wards when you do Gahlo's clear?

MidnightGladius

China1214 Posts

March 19 2015 20:10 GMT

#174

I usually end up backing between 4:30 and 5:00, buying Rangers/Ruby/Pink/Biscuit or Rangers/Ruby/Green/2 Biscuits.

Gahlo

United States35118 Posts

March 19 2015 20:30 GMT

#175

On March 20 2015 05:05 Fildun wrote:
Do none of you buy wards on first pick or something? Like, how do you have money for wards when you do Gahlo's clear?

Buy going smite Upgrade, 1pot, Green. People keep ignoring the Crab.

e. Just had a friend spectate me. Hit level 6 at 5:57 with a total worth of 2270. This is also taking into account that I accidentally canceled my second back by fucking up the CtrlW on my level 4. Judging by your 21/9 time on the last page, I'm 40 seconds faster even with the penalty of the recall fuckup. Even if I sit still and do nothing, I gain 76 gold in that time from ambient gold(19g/10s).

Gahlo

United States35118 Posts

March 20 2015 15:21 GMT

#176

Ket?

Ketara

United States15065 Posts

March 20 2015 15:39 GMT

#177

Should post a clear video if you're doing it at 5:57, we want to seeeeeeee