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[Guide] Montegomery's Super Serious Guide to ARAMs - Page 5

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DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
May 03 2013 19:01 GMT
#81
On May 04 2013 03:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 03:44 DragoonTT wrote:
I wish they'd remove Horn from the map. Bruisers are already strong enough, there's no need for an item that makes it even easier for them to survive to six and then faceroll the opposition who cannot even escape or fight back (because the bruisers now conveniently are way faster and have double to triple the defensive stats of anyone else at that point once Horn is popped)

They removed warmogs though, even trade imo.


I'd rather deal with Warmogs, honestly. I can use that item myself even if I don't play a bruiser and it's counterable by using Liandrys/BotRK/Bloodrazor (yes, Kitae's still exists). Horn is straight-up useless on anything that's not a bruiser and allows them to survive to six and then just dominate the game as much as they want. You're forced to buy boots 2 on your first death as an AD/AP carry, otherwise you're getting dived again and again and again cuz you can't get away and they take no damage at all.
amaDeus
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany205 Posts
May 03 2013 19:40 GMT
#82
On May 04 2013 03:27 Lylat wrote:
I wish Lux was not playable on ARAM, such an annoying champ.. I once faced a team with Soraka + Lux.. most boring 20minutes of my life


tbh i think yi is WAAAAY worse..
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 03 2013 20:02 GMT
#83
Beat a team composed of Nid, Soraka, Yi, Cho, and Sivir, the ARAM Gods were smiling upon me.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
May 03 2013 20:46 GMT
#84
On May 04 2013 05:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
Beat a team composed of Nid, Soraka, Yi, Cho, and Sivir, the ARAM Gods were smiling upon me.


I lost when my team was Kayle,Yorick,Tryn,Soraka,+1. I think the ARAM Gods said "Oh Hell No!!!!!!!!!". I never played so poorly with Kayle in my life. It was like I never even seen the champ let alone player with her.
OmegaKnetus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany431 Posts
May 03 2013 21:44 GMT
#85
On May 04 2013 05:46 lilwisper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 05:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
Beat a team composed of Nid, Soraka, Yi, Cho, and Sivir, the ARAM Gods were smiling upon me.


I lost when my team was Kayle,Yorick,Tryn,Soraka,+1. I think the ARAM Gods said "Oh Hell No!!!!!!!!!". I never played so poorly with Kayle in my life. It was like I never even seen the champ let alone player with her.



My last match was nidalee, Nunu, Janna, Alistar, Lux

Vs my Khazix, Xin, Tryn, Warwick and Gragas.

I raged pretty hard (I got Udyr first and rerolled) and assumed we'd lose pretty hard


20 mins later we lost all our turrets and inhibitor and we still won. Tryndamere just went godlike and powned the hell out of everything.

Also every anivia player I've seen in arams always rapes their own team by missing every stun and walling team mates out lol
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
May 06 2013 01:07 GMT
#86
I think they need to make a tip that says "If you don't build a chalice as your first item as an AP, with a few exceptions you're probably a dumbass."
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 06 2013 18:23 GMT
#87
Very very much agreed. Chalice literally provides three times as much mana regen as Tear, gives you 25 MR to start (vital for surviving early poke), and builds directly into an incredibly good CDR/MR item. The only time I start Tear is when I play Ryze or one of the mana hungry AD pokers.

In other news, now that I've had a couple days to recover from surgery I'll get back to updating the guides.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 06 2013 18:32 GMT
#88
On May 07 2013 03:23 Seuss wrote:
Very very much agreed. Chalice literally provides three times as much mana regen as Tear, gives you 25 MR to start (vital for surviving early poke), and builds directly into an incredibly good CDR/MR item. The only time I start Tear is when I play Ryze or one of the mana hungry AD pokers.

In other news, now that I've had a couple days to recover from surgery I'll get back to updating the guides.


wat? surgery? Don't do anything that will put this masterful OP in danger of stagnation.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
May 06 2013 19:47 GMT
#89
zilean is shit. Discuss
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 06 2013 19:53 GMT
#90
On May 07 2013 03:32 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 03:23 Seuss wrote:
Very very much agreed. Chalice literally provides three times as much mana regen as Tear, gives you 25 MR to start (vital for surviving early poke), and builds directly into an incredibly good CDR/MR item. The only time I start Tear is when I play Ryze or one of the mana hungry AD pokers.

In other news, now that I've had a couple days to recover from surgery I'll get back to updating the guides.


wat? surgery? Don't do anything that will put this masterful OP in danger of stagnation.


Nothing serious, but while I'm recovering I'm supposed to take it easy. On that note, I'm not going to do a regular Mondays with Monte tonight, but instead I plan on just streaming ARAMs for most of the evening.

On May 07 2013 04:47 sob3k wrote:
zilean is the shit. Discuss


Fix'd.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 20:26:46
May 06 2013 20:20 GMT
#91
Man, rerolls have really made the avarage ARAM team massively better. Its a lot harder to do wierd builds and not just lose...game has changed man

On May 07 2013 04:47 sob3k wrote:
zilean is the shit that makes you lose games because 700 range harass doesn't cut it in ARAM. Discuss


fixxed
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 21:51:42
May 06 2013 21:51 GMT
#92
Having only 700 range for harass isn't a huge issue because you have 550+ movespeed with which to dive in, bomb, and gtfo, not to mention all the cheeky things you can do with bombs. The only time his range is a problem is when the enemy team has a huge harass advantage, which isn't really a Zilean-specific issue.

Now factor in how absurdly frightening many initiators are when they also can move at 550 movement speed, and how easy it is to get caught when you can be permanently slowed by 55%.

Also, his ultimate is absolutely ridiculous in ARAMs. Get max CDR, have ult up every 40 seconds.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
May 06 2013 22:21 GMT
#93
Zilean has a pretty large power gap though between like level 10-15ish where he doesn't really have enough points and CDR to be spamming bombs. He's definitely good though.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
May 06 2013 22:32 GMT
#94
On May 06 2013 10:07 zer0das wrote:
I think they need to make a tip that says "If you don't build a chalice as your first item as an AP, with a few exceptions you're probably a dumbass."




Rod of ages man! Incredibly cost-effective and works on like all ap's (except for those that actually rush grail in SR). Catalyst so gud too.
hi
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 06 2013 23:38 GMT
#95
You can't have the passive gameplay to let you charge those 10 minutes though.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 00:37:25
May 07 2013 00:36 GMT
#96
On May 03 2013 07:57 xes wrote:
Thoughts on Horn?

The active gives like 800g worth of basic AR/MR before the mini ghost is factored in. I think its pretty much core on any melee CC bot like Volibear or Alistar, especially vs a team with early spell poke since the HP regen is actually pretty useful to buy and sometimes you can get two active charges off in one fight.


Horn is the best thing to happen to LoL. I use it so much I'm sad when I have to sell it for that 6th item slot.
"Do a barrel roll"
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 01:03:06
May 07 2013 00:58 GMT
#97
On May 07 2013 07:32 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 10:07 zer0das wrote:
I think they need to make a tip that says "If you don't build a chalice as your first item as an AP, with a few exceptions you're probably a dumbass."




Rod of ages man! Incredibly cost-effective and works on like all ap's (except for those that actually rush grail in SR). Catalyst so gud too.


Unless you're Cass or Karthus (maybe a few others I'm forgetting), 40% cdr is a priority as an AP in an ARAM. Also by the time your Rod of Ages is charged, the game is usually 5-10 minutes from ending. You lose out on so much mana regen if you don't get chalice/grail. You can get away with RoA on Gragas (for example), but that doesn't exactly mean it is good.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 02:43:20
May 07 2013 01:55 GMT
#98
I had a Blitz Soraka Janna on my team.

We lost because Blitz only pulled Alistar, and even though I told Janna all she had to do was Q waves and we'd win, she couldn't even do that.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
May 07 2013 02:36 GMT
#99
Played 3 games so far. Ashe, Janna, Janna. Best games of my life esp with Janna. I've never played her before ARAM and building athenes, archangels, deathcap and morellicon = spam that tornado all day and give allies a 600hp shield for them to dive is the best. No wonder she's in the highest rated tier lol.

I really had no idea how strong tornado and shield is when you build AP until yesterday.
sup
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 07 2013 03:13 GMT
#100
On May 04 2013 04:40 amaDeus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 03:27 Lylat wrote:
I wish Lux was not playable on ARAM, such an annoying champ.. I once faced a team with Soraka + Lux.. most boring 20minutes of my life


tbh i think yi is WAAAAY worse..


I just played with a Yi who didn't understand his Q. Like, He just died constantly by going ham on an Udyr who would run backwards.
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