That sort of solves the mine field problem, provided you're alive and in a position to safely clear the mine field, but a good Teemo drops -2-3 shrooms in combat and kites you to death.

sob3k

United States7572 Posts

May 08 2013 20:01 GMT

#122

On May 09 2013 03:39 Seuss wrote:

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That sort of solves the mine field problem, provided you're alive and in a position to safely clear the mine field, but a good Teemo drops -2-3 shrooms in combat and kites you to death.

eh still dies to ranged and anyone with good gap closers, there is a reason Teemo isn't known for his teamfighting.

I just had a team of Kass (me), Yi, Diana, Taric, Alistar. I was like finally, a team with some front line.....

say hello to pure AP Alistar and pure AP taric, gotta get that lichbane cuz its so strong. They both went about 2-14 and we of course lost

Seuss

United States10536 Posts

May 08 2013 21:56 GMT

#123

Teemo doesn't die to ranged, he counters ranged. I feel like someone just told me that scissors beats rock in RPS.

AsmodeusXI

United States15536 Posts

May 08 2013 21:59 GMT

#124

On May 09 2013 06:56 Seuss wrote:
Teemo doesn't die to ranged, he counters ranged. I feel like someone just told me that scissors beats rock in RPS.

Only if scissors can last hit better.

sob3k

United States7572 Posts

May 09 2013 01:11 GMT

#125

On May 09 2013 06:56 Seuss wrote:
Teemo doesn't die to ranged, he counters ranged. I feel like someone just told me that scissors beats rock in RPS.

I said ranged not AD carries, you cant shroom kite veigar. He only does well against ranged AD 1v1 anyway....when there are 3 AD's he goes down fast as he's outdamaged and outranged.

Seuss

United States10536 Posts

May 09 2013 05:17 GMT

#126

You are literally the first person I've ever seen used ranged to refer to anything other than AD carries.

mordek

United States12705 Posts

May 09 2013 14:05 GMT

#127

Curious, which team would you prefer to be on:
Darius, Lee, Blitz, Jayce, Kennen or Ahri, Lux, Zyra, Kayle, Ryze?

AsmodeusXI

United States15536 Posts

May 09 2013 14:11 GMT

#128

On May 09 2013 23:05 mordek wrote:
Curious, which team would you prefer to be on:
Darius, Lee, Blitz, Jayce, Kennen or Ahri, Lux, Zyra, Kayle, Ryze?

The AD Team. Autoattacks have no CD, and most of those guys are inherently tankier (sure, not compared to Ryze but still). Also, I feel like while it's easier to itemize Armor, the more AP team would have to sacrifice damage more than the AD one.

m4inbrain

1505 Posts

May 09 2013 16:05 GMT

#129

On May 09 2013 23:11 AsmodeusXI wrote:

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Also, Kennen and Blitz can deal alot of AP damage, so it's kinda hard to itemize defense for the first team - whereas for the second team you just build MR and are good to go. Yeah, Kayle does AD as well, but you negate at least half the damage there.

Oh and i'd prefer to play Blitz. Because awesome. He makes me feel like a troll, everytime i successful grab someone.

DragoonTT

3398 Posts

May 09 2013 16:38 GMT

#130

On May 09 2013 23:05 mordek wrote:
Curious, which team would you prefer to be on:
Darius, Lee, Blitz, Jayce, Kennen or Ahri, Lux, Zyra, Kayle, Ryze?

The first team, any day. Team two only has Ryze who really gets tanky without sacrifices and is too easily countered if there's a Bulwark and some other MR on the other team. Team one has fairly diversified damage and also Darius/Blitz, who can afford to build Bulwark/Locket respectively without losing too much damage.

Team one has better poke (Jayce+Kennen/Lee > Lux/Zyra imo) and will force team two to camp underneath their turret due to the threat of Acceleration Gate + Blitz/Darius pulls and Lee Sin burst, if a target is isolated. Jayce and Kennen should be able to take down towers fairly comfortably, considering Blitz threatens Ryze, Kayle and Ahri, while Lux and Zyra poke is fairly easy to predict/dodge and will probably rather be used to clear waves.

The big advantage team two has is ultimates. An all-in at six will probably devastate team one - there's no MR yet, Stranglethorns is as good as undodgeable on Howling Abyss, setting up Ahri and Lux for easy nuke/cc chains, and only Darius and Lee Sin ults really work without items - and Lee Sin will probably have to kick Ryze away to prevent him mowing down the team. If team one anticipates the all-in and disengages, or manages to blow defensive Kayle/Ahri ults, they're fairly set for the game - if they get rolled at six, the game will either go very long or team two gets an advantage big enough to end the game by minute 15.

mordek

United States12705 Posts

May 09 2013 22:32 GMT

#131

Thanks guys was interested in your thoughts. Both seemed to have pros and cons. One player made a comment about how it was obvious from the start who would win... I thought it was much closer than that

ticklishmusic

United States15977 Posts

May 09 2013 23:08 GMT

#132

In a normal game the second comp is better IMO because they can avoid fights except when they have Kayle ult up, but in ARAM the first team wins.

templar rage

United States2509 Posts

May 09 2013 23:33 GMT

#133

Sejuani/Orianna/Kennen a pretty fearsome wombo combo. Scored multiple aces in under 2s with me as Sejuani charging in and ulting their team with the ball on me for a 5-man Shockwave + Kennen ulting on top. And we thought we were fucked because it was us + Shaco/Teemo vs a Lux/Jayce/Karthus/Soraka/Jax. Luckily their Jayce didn't even know you could shoot his Q through gates.

mordek

United States12705 Posts

May 10 2013 00:42 GMT

#134

Rolled Udyr, time to make my way out of bronze

Victory /flex 2/5/24

101toss

3232 Posts

May 10 2013 01:48 GMT

#135

For those new to aram:

You can herd the poros back to your fountain, where they will become targetable. You can then kill them (they give 4 base gold and some xp). You can then get back to lane before a single enemy minion dies, giving your team the advantage.

The more you know

+ Show Spoiler +

tryharding and arams are about as bad a combination as drinking and driving :o

sob3k

United States7572 Posts

May 10 2013 04:21 GMT

#136

On May 10 2013 10:48 101toss wrote:
For those new to aram:

You can herd the poros back to your fountain, where they will become targetable. You can then kill them (they give 4 base gold and some xp). You can then get back to lane before a single enemy minion dies, giving your team the advantage.

The more you know

+ Show Spoiler +

tryharding and arams are about as bad a combination as drinking and driving :o

yep, the highest high level ARAM teams run Zilean/TF/GP/Ashe to establish an insurmountable lead from poro farming

nyxnyxnyx

Indonesia2978 Posts

May 10 2013 10:41 GMT

#137

my friend and i had an argument over which was the better team, assuming high level of undertanding of aram / tournament level play.

fiddle maokai singed trist heimer
vs
janna karma thresh cait alistar

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

May 10 2013 10:48 GMT

#138

I like first team more. Superior poke. Superior team fight. Latter team has better engage. Trist > Cait late

ToT)OjKa(

Korea (South)2437 Posts

May 10 2013 11:14 GMT

#139

hay guise let me argue with soraka all game and constantly get caught cuz i'm typing lol ^^
jesus fucking christ...

Anyway, my Fiora was pretty sick, vs ashe + lulu hurts though