EPTOn April 26 2015 11:55 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
does exhaust effect ignite damage?
does exhaust effect ignite damage?
No
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
On April 26 2015 09:12 xAdra wrote: Thanks guys! I actually thought Kassadin was bad because he seemed like such a weak hero in the lane, before level 6. It just seems like any ranged mid hero can destroy him easily and his spell shield is a pretty feeble, skill-dependent and prediction-dependent defense. Is he expected to actually win lanes? Especially against AD mids like Zed and Jayce? Also, is it expected to be completely destroyed by a teemo? Ad champs like zed riven and Jaycee are going to be rough lanes for kassadin. Vs pretty much any ad match up u have to just play like a pussy. Vs ap The key to kassadin is to get good at you using your q to wins trade and use it to shield yourself while u last hit minons with out taking much poke. Only use q on minons in your worst match ups such as zed Jaycee ori. Post 6 you should always be trading in lane when your e is charged. Always keep track of your ult stacks so u don't go oom when u could have waited 3 secs and let the stacks reset. After the last adjustments to kass he's in a decent spot but no longer something u want to blind pick | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
If you build Tear, don't upgrade it into Archangel's Staff until it's nearly fully charged, as the mana itself is worth much more than the AP. On the other hand, once transformed into Seraph's Embrace the active is very powerful for survivability. | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On April 26 2015 18:50 Alaric wrote: Oh right, they changed Grail's passive to 20% of your max mana on kill or assist, so if you build it you can be a lot more liberal with your ult stacks because getting a kill with a mana item (RoA or Tear) usually means you'll get enough mana back for at least another ult. If you build Tear, don't upgrade it into Archangel's Staff until it's nearly fully charged, as the mana itself is worth much more than the AP. On the other hand, once transformed into Seraph's Embrace the active is very powerful for survivability. the whole never upgrading tear until its at 750 is something I actually kind of wonder about. The thing is that archangels charges literally twice as fast as the base tear, and is actually a very good item even only slightly charged. Getting archangels (super good) twice as fast is a pretty big deal. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On April 27 2015 14:40 sob3k wrote: the whole never upgrading tear until its at 750 is something I actually kind of wonder about. The thing is that archangels charges literally twice as fast as the base tear, and is actually a very good item even only slightly charged. Getting archangels (super good) twice as fast is a pretty big deal. I agree that prematurely upgrading it isn't bad at all, but there's often another item that you want to finish first. For example, if you're getting Tear AND Rod of Ages, it makes sense to get Tear, then get RoA, then upgrade your Tear (which probably happens to be close to 750 anyway). | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
Getting nearly 2k gold faster into your third/fourth is, well, really really good. | ||
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
Also, does mid lane have one wave more or am I seeing things? | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On April 28 2015 22:00 SoSexy wrote: Guys do you have a minion chart? I.e how many minions spawn at 10 minutes, etc. Also, does mid lane have one wave more or am I seeing things? Minons start spawning at 1.30 and then a wave every 30 second with 1 siege minion every 3rd wave (every 2nd at 20m and each wave at 30m). So at 10 minute 107 minons will have spawned. Mid have the same amount of minons as each other lane, but the distance they travel are shorter. | ||
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General_Winter
United States719 Posts
At what point should a person switch from trying to learn and find a style to trying to improve on a small pool? | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4124 Posts
On May 01 2015 23:22 General_Winter wrote: I know the best way to improve is to play a very small champion pool. But the best way to learn about the game and to learn what champions you like and don't like and what styles you like and don't like is to play a large champion pool. At what point should a person switch from trying to learn and find a style to trying to improve on a small pool? I'd recommend finding a champ/style that you like and then spamming said champ/style to get better at it. That way you enjoy what you're doing and you're getting better. | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
So I played top Jayce yesterday, and I'm pretty good at Jayce at my level (fighting high silver-low gold opponents). However yesterday I faced off against a Vayne top. This is the first time I've seen it, and from my understanding Vayne was one of the most risky champs to pick as ADC due to her weak early game. I mean, shouldn't the most powerful ADC in the game have a weak early game? It made sense to me. I was used to demolishing melee champs top with Jayce since I can poke so hard, but I really didn't expect Vayne to deal so much damage to me that I died at level 2- I hit my Q and went allin. After that her lane just snowballed and we could hardly stop her from destroying us. What should I have done? I mean I know Vayne isn't supposed to be a standard top laner, so there's no way I'm supposed to be destroyed this hard. I bought Long Sword and 3x Health pots to start with. | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4124 Posts
I really need more information about what happened after that to be honest. Did you go in with your melee form Q? In that case I suppose she used her own Q to get away from you and she auto'd you while you couldn't do much in return, plus since you went into her you get minion aggro and she doesn't. Minion aggro can change a lot of early toplane fights. In the normal lenght of such a fight they can actually deal more than 200 damage to you, which is more than enough to determine the outcome of such a trade. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
The weaknesses of Vayne in a duo lane against another marksman are that her level 1 is super weak (and 2 can be too depending on match-up), she has no reach (as in she has nothing that goes farther than her autos, like Graves' Q, or Jinx switching to bazooka), and no real wave clear. Going in the off lane, her lack of reach is compensated by most of her opponents being melee (or lower-ranged, Jayce "only" has 500 auto range iirc), her weakness early on by how fast she levels compared to a duo lane (you don't stay level 1 for long). She's harder to push against for melees so she can't hit level 2 second most of the time, so all of these combine. She's squishy so susceptible to ganks, though, and you've got more burst as Jayce. In teamfights obviously you face stronger kiting and sustained damage because of the double marksman comp, but she brings little to no utility, and no frontline capability. She's stronger as a splitpusher so if she doesn't get huge you can group later and force unfavorable fights. Vayne isn't the hardest scaling carry, she is ridiculously strong at dueling (even burst casters, with Tumble and her stealth being huge to bone skillshot casters—save for Riven of course, because fuck Riven) even off of one item, and her clean-up between Tumble, her passive and the permanent uptime of her steroid (Silver Bolts), which is why she's better fitted for top lane than most marksmen (Quinn has similar strengths but doesn't scale as well), but Jinx scales a lot harder, and snowballs fast too. Jinx in a solo lane is jungler food and just dies if you hit 2 first though. Vayne will usually hit level 6 with cutlass or BotRK and once both these conditions are fulfilled she can kill you by just ulting then Tumbling into you and slowing you with the item's active. Her passive's bonus is tripled during her ult so she will run you down if you can't kill her. That's the power spike to look out for, but other than that and as long as you have your tower you should be able to stay alive. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On May 01 2015 23:22 General_Winter wrote: I know the best way to improve is to play a very small champion pool. But the best way to learn about the game and to learn what champions you like and don't like and what styles you like and don't like is to play a large champion pool. At what point should a person switch from trying to learn and find a style to trying to improve on a small pool? Try everything for twoish games (4ish if you like them) and then pick is my opinion. Go back and play champs you still find yourself having trouble vsing or not understanding their playstyle and combat patterns. You can honestly focus on one or two champions as early as you feel like if your really like them, but in my experience is very helpful to play other champions you are having trouble with to help understand them more deeply and get a feel for cooldowns etc. Or just do whatever is fun because its a game and you aren't trying to make the LCS. Thats fine too. Mostly people have fun improving though. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
when you first start you might only have one character you enjoy but sometimes if you have to play other roles experiment a little and see which character for that role that you enjoy. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
Also you have to realize that you can't really disengage from her without serious CC or mobility, you have to make her disengage or not trade in the first place. She runs away much much slower than she chases. Speaking of fun top lane matchups...Garen vs Vayne. You better hope she sucks ass, or you jungle is a god. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On May 01 2015 23:22 General_Winter wrote: I know the best way to improve is to play a very small champion pool. But the best way to learn about the game and to learn what champions you like and don't like and what styles you like and don't like is to play a large champion pool. At what point should a person switch from trying to learn and find a style to trying to improve on a small pool? I don't think I'd agree that the best way to learn about the game is to play a large champion pool, unless you're really new and don't know what lots of champions do. When I was levelling up to 30, every time there was a free champion available that I'd never played before, I'd try them once just to see what they were like. If you're not comfortable with your knowledge of what a bunch of champions do, then try them out in some normals when they're free. | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
On May 02 2015 10:04 GolemMadness wrote: I don't think I'd agree that the best way to learn about the game is to play a large champion pool, unless you're really new and don't know what lots of champions do. When I was levelling up to 30, every time there was a free champion available that I'd never played before, I'd try them once just to see what they were like. If you're not comfortable with your knowledge of what a bunch of champions do, then try them out in some normals when they're free. yeah i'm pretty sure playing a champ you know very well frees up your brain to learn new non-champion specific aspects of the game that you might not pick up if most of your focus and concentration was being spent on learning the champion you are playing. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23468 Posts
it probably takes about 200 games of focusing on one champ and trying hard to start to get really decent. and 200 games where you have plenty of time in the loading screen and death screens to look up a champ on lolwiki everytime you feel unsure. you will gain a really good estimate of a champ just looking at their numbers and cds and thinking a bit about when they're strong/weak without having to spend 5 hours of your time playing them. | ||
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