[Champion] Fiora - Page 3

On July 08 2012 03:12 Deltablazy wrote:
With the recent buff on Fiora's ult, I've been thinking of trying her out, but what prevents ppl from picking fiora more often?

On July 08 2012 08:34 Vaporized wrote:
xeroborn. i just started playing ranked again yesterday cuz i moved and didnt have my desktop only my laptop (which lags). i got my desktop and went 1-1 in ranked with fiora so far (jungling her that is). the first game i went 8-2-8 and we won ez. the second game i started 5-0-0 and then my team just went to shit. 1-12 kennen at the end. we lost that one. the next game i jungled i went skarner and went 12-1-17 lol. i wanted to win that one. like i said, fiora is situational, but effective in the right spots.

and i am low elo. take my opinions for what they are worth. but i am fairly obviously the best player in most if not all my games. i went 4-1 in ranked yesterday, first ranked games in a month, and carried hard all 4 of the wins.

the last few weeks i would play normal drafts because my laptop sucks, and i got interested in fiora jungle. i wanted to see how fiora stacked up against a wide variety of teams and enemy junglers. ive won so many normal drafts lately i get much better teammates in those games then my ranked games. over 40+ games i think fiora is fine to possibly quite good in the jungle and i will keep playing her there.

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On July 08 2012 10:21 Feartheguru wrote:
@Vaporized, didn't agree at all with what you were saying so I checked your profile to see if you were low elo or not

That's irrelevant though just posting to tell advise you that you should never ever build attk speed on fiora. Ever. Huge waste of money.

On July 08 2012 09:52 Vaporized wrote:
ya im glad you made this thread, thanks man. i hadnt played fiora in months and then i saw your thread and pulled her out for a few games and now im hooked. she is a blast imo.

for jungle i go atk spd reds, armor yellow, mres blue, armpen quints. summoners get smite and exhaust (exhaust is crucial). start cloth 5 and open w. this setup is amazing at lvl 1. you get atk speed, +15 ad from w, cloth armor, and armor pen.

start wolves then blue (i ask for a leash every game no matter what jungler im playing, fiora is no different). i like the standard wraiths, wolves, red, wraiths, golems lvl 4 path. and oftentimes you will have pots left over at the end. skill order is w-e-w-q, then r-w-e-q. maxing e first is a huge mistake in the jungle.

for ganks i like to start at lvl 4 with red buff and boots. depending on the angle and how pushed your opponent is you can either lead off with a q to close the gap, or even better is running up on them and then using q to catch up when the enemy flashes. if you are smart about how you use your skills here you can easily get a kill. use w if they turn to attack you, an e-q-q combo with red + exhaust is often enough to let you auto a few times and get a kill. it also never gets old when someone kills themselves off a w proc.

at lvl 6 ganking becomes a lot more interesting. you can dive very effectively with your ult. use your e-q-q combo to hopefully get them down around 1/3 health and then ult and you will get the kill. one other thing ive found useful is if a big fight is going on bot lane and low health enemies are heading back to their tower you can run in and ult them (ask your lane to push minions if at all possible), and hopefully get a double kill.

i get the same items every game: cloth, boots, wriggles, hog, merc treads, black cleaver. the wriggles is the big one there. you want to finish madreds ASAP as it lets you clear absurdly fast. and as soon as you finish wriggles you can go straight to dragon and solo it (at lvl 7 is possible with 2-3 potions, lvl 8 you might need 1 potion, you will have lvl 2 e which helps a lot). once you get wriggles then fiora suddenly becomes the invade threat, you kill camps so fast.

the rest of the item build is situational. just get whatever you need. if you are getting blown up get frozen mallet, more sustain get bt, more damage get ie or pd. if i need resists i get randuins or force of nature.

also of note is fiora's split pushing ability. fiora kills towers comically fast. there was one game where the whole enemy team was pushing down bot. i pushed down their 2nd top tower and their 3rd tower + inhib, and my team was able to defend our inhib with the turrets help. that play basically won us the game. once i played that game i take advantage of this whenever possible. if a lane is losing then run in when the enemy goes back and kill the turret asap. this lets your laner roam, or at the least get out of a bad lane, and also gives you a lane to go farm guilt free when possible.

thats how i do it. she brings a lot of interesting things to the table, like amazing split pushing, absurd damage all game long, and early dragon control that imo balance out her lack of cc or tankiness. the sports analogy 'the best defense is a good offense' i think applies to fiora quite well. if the enemy is dead then you dont have to cc or tank anything.

edit: i forgot matchups. i only pick fiora if i know what their jungler is. shyv, mundo, udyr, trundle are all bad matchups. against those guys i like to pick one of the others (or skarner) so at least i can keep up. any other jungler i found fiora does fine. even shyv is actually doable, you can kill her at low lvls, but it can be obnoxious. mundo i either ban if im first pick and want to play fiora, or i just pick shyv myself if the other guy picks mundo. ive never actually jungled fiora against mundo but i just dont see it working out for fiora at all. fiora's first clear is not the fastest or the slowest, you can hit 4 at 3:50-4:00, and from then on you just wreck the jungle so fast, including possibly the fastest buff golem kill times of any champ once you get madreds/wriggles.

one last point: in champ select or in a premade team get either top or support to pick a good tank like malph, ali, or leona. if there is one thing fiora does not do it is tank.