EPTatm I like wriggles/wits end GA or wriggles/ghostblade GA into more damage.
[Champion] Fiora - Page 2
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
atm I like wriggles/wits end GA or wriggles/ghostblade GA into more damage. | ||
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LeeDawg
United States1306 Posts
carrying hard with it too | ||
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GhostOwl
766 Posts
On June 20 2012 17:23 Sufficiency wrote: Played her a little today. Seriously, why would anyone play her instead of Master Yi? It feels like Yi is just a better version of Fiora. She has 2 gap closer and 1 mini gap closer as opposed to Master Yi's one gap closer. Her Ult is very strong damage and it also grants her invulnerability and lets her tower dive people easily Her W lets her ward off most enemy kiting attempts | ||
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Lmui
Canada6213 Posts
On June 21 2012 07:14 GhostOwl wrote: She has 2 gap closer and 1 mini gap closer as opposed to Master Yi's one gap closer. Her Ult is very strong damage and it also grants her invulnerability and lets her tower dive people easily Her W lets her ward off most enemy kiting attempts In the jungle, master yi is generally a quicker jungle due to alpha strike's damage to multiple targets+random damage. Fiora's ganks pre-6 are stronger than master yi's but master yi has a bit more possible front-loaded burst because alpha strike + double strike + wuju style does an absurd amount of damage while fiora relies on the person ganked to auto her to deal maximum damage. In lane though, Fiora is far and away better than master yi. | ||
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GhostOwl
766 Posts
On June 21 2012 07:27 Lmui wrote: In the jungle, master yi is generally a quicker jungle due to alpha strike's damage to multiple targets+random damage. Fiora's ganks pre-6 are stronger than master yi's but master yi has a bit more possible front-loaded burst because alpha strike + double strike + wuju style does an absurd amount of damage while fiora relies on the person ganked to auto her to deal maximum damage. In lane though, Fiora is far and away better than master yi. I was never comparing them in the jungle. I was comparing them in lanes. I don't think either Fiora or Yi should jungle. I mean, yes, they can pull it off, but I'd always rather play a jungler like Skarner who provides the team with CC, good ganks, counter-jungling, and tanky-ness | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On June 21 2012 21:43 Slayer91 wrote: If yi is good anywhere its as a jungle though. I don't think he's viable as anything apart from AP Yi and even that is only if he gets his lane camped by his jungler | ||
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AleKSei23
Mexico75 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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AleKSei23
Mexico75 Posts
On June 22 2012 06:36 Slayer91 wrote: Rumble shouldn't be a problem, burst him when his Q is on CD. Malphite should screw you over though, just get wriggles and farm. Just played a game, im trying fiora on blind pick, got owned by a Rumble i opened cloth +5 pots he opened +20 ap, i was blind tho maybe with boots +3 i could be ok. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
Melee AD just seems like it only works for bruisers and bursty AD casters (with Riven being somewhere in between). On paper, though, she looks more fun/useful in more situations than master Yi (though Yi's passive is OP for backdooring). | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Many people play her wrong. She can, and should be aggressive right from lvl 1. Especially vs AD-ish bruisers she's amazing right away, especially if you build her right with full armor runes and defensive masteries. Q -> hit -> Q -> hit -> retreat with 4 stacks of passive should regen her to full hp in no time and that already deals like 150-200 damage. After lvl 2 she gets riposte and passive 15 damage and at that point she should just keep attacking the enemy because she outdamages them like crazy and just outregens them in trades. From my limited experience she destroys stuff like Pantheon for instance. With full armor runepage and cloth starters and constant harrass Pantheon really can't do anything. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
On June 22 2012 09:25 Shikyo wrote: Something about Fiora: Many people play her wrong. She can, and should be aggressive right from lvl 1. Especially vs AD-ish bruisers she's amazing right away, especially if you build her right with full armor runes and defensive masteries. Q -> hit -> Q -> hit -> retreat with 4 stacks of passive should regen her to full hp in no time and that already deals like 150-200 damage. After lvl 2 she gets riposte and passive 15 damage and at that point she should just keep attacking the enemy because she outdamages them like crazy and just outregens them in trades. From my limited experience she destroys stuff like Pantheon for instance. With full armor runepage and cloth starters and constant harrass Pantheon really can't do anything. I cant express how much I agree with this I played vs Fiora as Panth today She did exactly what you mentioned (Q/hit harass right off the bat), she traded slightly better than me At level 2, I thought I could kill her, she wrecked me | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
Don't buy Warmogs on Fiora (except maybe very situationally). She doesn't benefit a lot from health compared to others. First, lifesteal is a great substitute for health on someone who does as much autoattack (and ult) damage as her. Consider that a vampiric scepter is 32/66/100 + .24*AD health back just from ult, worst case, plus some back for each auto you land, and it scales with more deeps. Second, you like resists. In lane, your passive gives you lots of healing. Once you have lifesteal, you have lots of healing. Don't go super glass cannon. Infinity Edge is pretty hard to fit in your build unless you are rollin in da brozouf. Wriggles or Hexdrinker should be your first buy, followed by BF Sword into Black Cleaver or Bloodthirster. Upgrade Hexdrinker, buy GA. You now have a solid core of resists and lots of DPS/1v1 potential, plus tons of free healing in fights. It's a very fine balance between being tanky enough to not die before reaching your target and doing enough deeps to dunk your target once you get there. | ||
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Duskbane
United States178 Posts
On June 23 2012 14:02 Tooplark wrote: Defensive runes/masteries, offensive items. Also, probably the champ who benefits the most from cleanse. Don't buy Warmogs on Fiora (except maybe very situationally). She doesn't benefit a lot from health compared to others. First, lifesteal is a great substitute for health on someone who does as much autoattack (and ult) damage as her. Consider that a vampiric scepter is 32/66/100 + .24*AD health back just from ult, worst case, plus some back for each auto you land, and it scales with more deeps. Second, you like resists. In lane, your passive gives you lots of healing. Once you have lifesteal, you have lots of healing. Don't go super glass cannon. Infinity Edge is pretty hard to fit in your build unless you are rollin in da brozouf. Wriggles or Hexdrinker should be your first buy, followed by BF Sword into Black Cleaver or Bloodthirster. Upgrade Hexdrinker, buy GA. You now have a solid core of resists and lots of DPS/1v1 potential, plus tons of free healing in fights. It's a very fine balance between being tanky enough to not die before reaching your target and doing enough deeps to dunk your target once you get there. Added your post to the OP near the other builds, as this build is just as amazing if not even moreso than the ones I posted. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
Here's some thoughts on how Fiora compares to other champs: Fiora vs Talon: Fiora can disengage better than Talon thanks to the second dash on Q, but Talon outbursts her. Talon also has a silence and better poke. Fiora can't dunk casters near as hard as Talon late game but she doesn't become useless because someone bought a chainmail. Fiora vs Master Yi: Yi is significantly better in jungle, though I actually feel like Fiora has stronger ganks due to being able to follow a flash with her second Q. In terms of sheer late game DPS, Yi beats pretty much everything, but Fiora is far more useful in teamfights since she has two dashes and an ult that both takes her out of the fight and helps her stick to things. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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