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YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
May 02 2013 14:37 GMT
#121
Cool spreadsheet, I'm proud to say I've always ran her with armor pen runes, although thats because I don't own AD runes ... I am still waiting for the inevitable Fiora buff from Riot, if people continue not playing her, it must happen! Then I will crush everyone.
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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
May 02 2013 17:27 GMT
#122
Riot isn't going to buff Fiora for the same reason they won't buff Yi or Tryndamere - melee carries are far more playable at low skill levels than at high ones.
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Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
May 02 2013 18:34 GMT
#123
On May 03 2013 02:27 Tooplark wrote:
Riot isn't going to buff Fiora for the same reason they won't buff Yi or Tryndamere - melee carries are far more playable at low skill levels than at high ones.

Which is why we AP yi/tryn
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
May 03 2013 18:45 GMT
#124
On May 02 2013 20:40 Slayer91 wrote:
Yes fioras high base values and in built ad steriod make arpen much better than ad

however assuming every fiora player is an elite fliora theorycraft master is another thing coming

nobody plays fiora so people just pick whatever rune page is lying around when they do

I understand that; however, it's strange given free permanent fort pot starting level 1-2 and high base spell damages all point towards a full arpen runepage.

I also made the spreadsheet on a spur of the moment, watching a Fiora (with full AD runes) on spectate that lost to a Kennen top (whaaaaa). Then again, Laut was beasting that game with jungle Elise, so eh, but still.

On May 03 2013 02:27 Tooplark wrote:
Riot isn't going to buff Fiora for the same reason they won't buff Yi or Tryndamere - melee carries are far more playable at low skill levels than at high ones.

They're looking towards a Fiora buff, though they're also talking about introducing items to make melee carries "assassiny".

The Fiora buff in question is allowing her W to block on hits (it'll improve a number of top lane matchups a shitton, see Darius as a glaring example), but from...Morello, I do believe, the change is taxing on the programming/mechanical side, so it's not being pushed as a priority over other changes.

If it comes through, it'll be a huge buff, just shhhhhh.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 18:49:45
May 03 2013 18:48 GMT
#125
On May 04 2013 03:45 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 20:40 Slayer91 wrote:
Yes fioras high base values and in built ad steriod make arpen much better than ad

however assuming every fiora player is an elite fliora theorycraft master is another thing coming

nobody plays fiora so people just pick whatever rune page is lying around when they do

I understand that; however, it's strange given free permanent fort pot starting level 1-2 and high base spell damages all point towards a full arpen runepage.



If you understand it, it's not strange, if you're not going to play fiora regularly then you won't bother setting up a new runepage. Also a lot of players don't really care about the math side of things and just go on " feel ".
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
May 22 2013 02:16 GMT
#126
Holy crap she is annoying to vs in mid lane. Played TF vs her with armor yellows and I went cloth 5 and I still couldn't lane against her. At level 6 she Qs twice, ults and Qs again and I'm dead.

God I hate ad mid -_-
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
May 22 2013 05:14 GMT
#127
On May 22 2013 11:16 schmutttt wrote:
Holy crap she is annoying to vs in mid lane. Played TF vs her with armor yellows and I went cloth 5 and I still couldn't lane against her. At level 6 she Qs twice, ults and Qs again and I'm dead.

God I hate ad mid -_-


Fiora ruins squishies in lane but her teamfighting is pretty meh and there's so much shit in this game that forces her ult to be worthless and go on CD. You either get fed as Fiora and end the game fast or you become a pretty mediocre split pusher.

Fiora might increase in popularity though if top lane Kennen catches on again since it's popular in Korea and Fiora dumps on him in lane. Although I guess you'd just end up with a lane swap and Fiora's 1v2 is awful.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 12 2013 07:18 GMT
#128
THIS GUY IS HELLA FUN WTF WHY NOT VIABLE
are there any major changes that i should be aware of in the new season about skills or items
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
June 12 2013 09:26 GMT
#129
any1 dares to try blue fiora? I have a feeling that muramana + ult is op.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 13:07:45
June 12 2013 13:07 GMT
#130
Edit: Wrong thread.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 12 2013 13:47 GMT
#131
Dont seem like you have enough mana problems to justify getting tear and significantly weakening your laning phase basically until your muramana is complete.
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Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
August 07 2015 18:00 GMT
#132
Do we have a preliminary build yet from anyone who has played new Fiora? I'm debating on trying her out.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-07 19:31:03
August 07 2015 19:30 GMT
#133
Played a game last night where i had a mid fiora on my team, he crushed lane going the same build as old Fiora mid.

Tiamat >brut >lw

We lost because i was irelia our bot lane lost so our teamfight was abysmal even if i got my one shot off on the opposing Vayne
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Sonnington
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1107 Posts
August 07 2015 19:33 GMT
#134
On August 08 2015 03:00 Ethelis wrote:
Do we have a preliminary build yet from anyone who has played new Fiora? I'm debating on trying her out.

Here's a few builds

http://www.probuilds.net/champions/Fiora

I played her once last night. You'll still need a Tiamat/Hydra first item for waveclear. It looks like you need a phage item for increased move speed to hit all the vitals during your ult. Looks like cool down items are important for extra Qs (I think Q is an AA reset now) for both damage and escape potential while splitting. Also more Es for more crits, slows, and attack speed boosts.

I kept forgetting she even had an escape tool. It's nice, but she doesn't take towers down as fast as she used to when she's left alone.
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
August 07 2015 20:30 GMT
#135
Hmm, thanks. Those are helpful starting points. I'll post here if I find anything that stands out (after grinding 4500ip...).
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 11 2015 18:41 GMT
#136
hydra and BC are necessary, after that depends. IE should probably be your last item for the crit burst.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2602 Posts
August 14 2015 08:34 GMT
#137
Why not play her triforce bork into tank like jax or irelia?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-14 15:44:59
August 14 2015 15:44 GMT
#138
because then you would just play jax or irelia. her ad scaling is immense you can have a 700 base E late game thats guaranteed to crit

not even counting that basically everything in her kit also scales off AD heavily. why you would get botrk over hydra i have no idea when she has that and zero waveclear
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Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-17 16:10:14
August 17 2015 16:07 GMT
#139
On August 14 2015 17:34 gobbledydook wrote:
Why not play her triforce bork into tank like jax or irelia?


BotRK is garbage on her and she honestly has no trouble gap closing if she's in Q range. Irelia and Jax gap closers are both 6 seconds on champ cast; Fiora's is 3.2 base. That is really tiny.

Hydra->Phage item seems ideal so far. Cleaver usually, Tforce if you're ahead. Then some mix of BT/LW/IE/Maw, possibly Sterak in 5.16 because decent base AD and strong teamfight passive. If you need armor, your only real option is boots or a late thornmail.

I think she's actually *really* good, at least in soloq. If you get even a little ahead and play well, you can turn all sorts of shit with ult. I thought that heal would suck, but if you use it right and proc it quickly, it's disgusting.
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Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
August 18 2015 04:20 GMT
#140
So much damage is tied into her ult and passive it feels like. Am I crazy for considering IBG? Even with BC speed boost I find it annoying to proc all 4 vitals on ults.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
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