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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
December 31 2012 06:14 GMT
#101
What have people been building on him S3? I know XJ9 rushes Fist but he also gets like more CS than his laners

So far I've been going machete x5 -> boots -> stone -> mercs -> kindle -> and then I'm unsatisfied with where I want to go from there

I know for sure that I want to pick up Visage since it got crazy buffed and is now probably the best MR item in the game for Hecarim.

Sunfire is an OK choice since Hecarim does a lot of teamfight AoE damage, but the stats are pretty meh tbh. Fist is insanely good but also costs a million dollars. I've been trying kindle -> randuins -> SV because after you initiate, you actually do piss poor damage to carries (unlike say Mundo) and I feel like its better to go for peeling/disruption items (hence permaslow fist being so good)

Tank stone upgrade feels superior to sunfire really, but then you double does on tenacity. The reason why I want mercs is because T2 boots is OP and I'm not going to buy any MR for a long time so if I go tabi tank stone there's a big MR hole.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 31 2012 07:15 GMT
#102
On December 31 2012 15:14 xes wrote:
What have people been building on him S3? I know XJ9 rushes Fist but he also gets like more CS than his laners.


This is very important to note. Fist is a very expensive item that barely gives any tanky stats. You can only get it if you're really fed or are tanky already and need damage. I like SV for MR, Sunfire for armor. I think Spirit of the Lizard Elder is a great item for damage later on. Otherwise all the normal tanky items are fine on Hecarim. He's as strong as ever with his buff and the new jungle.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 31 2012 11:39 GMT
#103
Sheen is so core on hecarim that it's a really easy fit, though.
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Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
January 01 2013 10:44 GMT
#104
On December 31 2012 15:14 xes wrote:
What have people been building on him S3? I know XJ9 rushes Fist but he also gets like more CS than his laners

So far I've been going machete x5 -> boots -> stone -> mercs -> kindle -> and then I'm unsatisfied with where I want to go from there

I know for sure that I want to pick up Visage since it got crazy buffed and is now probably the best MR item in the game for Hecarim.

Sunfire is an OK choice since Hecarim does a lot of teamfight AoE damage, but the stats are pretty meh tbh. Fist is insanely good but also costs a million dollars. I've been trying kindle -> randuins -> SV because after you initiate, you actually do piss poor damage to carries (unlike say Mundo) and I feel like its better to go for peeling/disruption items (hence permaslow fist being so good)

Tank stone upgrade feels superior to sunfire really, but then you double does on tenacity. The reason why I want mercs is because T2 boots is OP and I'm not going to buy any MR for a long time so if I go tabi tank stone there's a big MR hole.


Rushing fist is fine, hell 5hit' build on the previous page is Sheen>Glacial which is the exact same as what you do now but you get the go to fist after.

Usually go

Machete + Pots
Boots + Spirit Stone
Sheen
Merc Treads
Glacial
Fist
Spirit Visage
Sunfire
Elder Lizard
Randuins/Frozen/Whatever you feel like/need.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 10:46:58
January 01 2013 10:45 GMT
#105
you cant rush fist if youre not fed or have same farm as your solos, you would be really squishy and die after you initiate.
Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
January 02 2013 01:08 GMT
#106
On January 01 2013 19:45 zulu_nation8 wrote:
you cant rush fist if youre not fed or have same farm as your solos, you would be really squishy and die after you initiate.


Merc treads + Glacial is not that squishy though, sure you don't have as much as if you rushed a straight tanky build but still.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 02 2013 01:11 GMT
#107
you dont have the luxury of not rushing tank in real games
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 02 2013 06:17 GMT
#108
Been getting a giants belt before grabbing Fist, youre already hella tanky with your W, you can get away with fist since it builds from glacial aslong as you have some HP.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 02 2013 06:19 GMT
#109
for the reasons stated ive taken to playing him top and found that he actually crushes pretty hard up in there in a lot of matchups. as soon as you get fist you're a god.
I come in for the scraps
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 03 2013 00:56 GMT
#110
So far been going
Machete + 5 -> Spirit Stone -> Boots -> Glacial -> Boots2 in here somewhere -> Sunfire -> Fist -> Visage

seems like its hella strong. you could just straight Sunfire after Glacial but idk up to choice i guess
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iGX
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia414 Posts
January 03 2013 13:21 GMT
#111
On January 02 2013 15:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
for the reasons stated ive taken to playing him top and found that he actually crushes pretty hard up in there in a lot of matchups. as soon as you get fist you're a god.


i've been playing alot of hecarim top lane lately and he's such a beast. fist + kindle gem + brutalizer (depends if you're fed) makes him an unstoppable beast. my games never go long enough but is last whisper worth it on him?
When your bases are ashes...then you have my permission to "GG".
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
January 04 2013 21:02 GMT
#112
Wouldn't Rand be the better option instead of sunfire?
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Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
January 08 2013 21:15 GMT
#113
What kind of runes are people running on Hecarim now? I saw a person on youtube going AD reds, AR yellows, Mr/lvl blues and MS quints, and have been using that for a while. I do find that I end up pretty low after a clear though, so I was wondering if anyone else has come up with anything.
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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 22:53:24
January 08 2013 22:53 GMT
#114
I've been running AD/Armor/flat CDR/Armpen (or maybe it's armpen on reds and AD on quints? I forget which one is more efficient). Flat CDR does noticeably speed up the first clear over MR blues.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 08 2013 23:38 GMT
#115
On January 09 2013 06:15 Dark_Chill wrote:
What kind of runes are people running on Hecarim now? I saw a person on youtube going AD reds, AR yellows, Mr/lvl blues and MS quints, and have been using that for a while. I do find that I end up pretty low after a clear though, so I was wondering if anyone else has come up with anything.

Armpen reds, armor yellow, mr/l blues, ms quints
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 08 2013 23:44 GMT
#116
for top armor pen reds/quints and flat armor/mr

also been experimenting with hybrid pen reds/quints
I come in for the scraps
Imperium11
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States279 Posts
January 10 2013 18:29 GMT
#117
As an MR item do people prefer Maw or SV?
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 10 2013 18:47 GMT
#118
sv
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
January 10 2013 18:47 GMT
#119
On January 11 2013 03:29 Imperium11 wrote:
As an MR item do people prefer Maw or SV?

SV out of the jungle. I haven't played Hec top but I suspect it would still be SV. It provides more MR and Hec's W is super op since in the initiation, you can nearly nullify a huge chunk of opponent's burst if your team has any burst themselves

Even if you had to build a Hexdrinker for lane, if you still need more MR, SV gives you more eHP vs magic than the upgrade to Maw.
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5miley
Profile Joined January 2010
United States64 Posts
January 12 2013 20:01 GMT
#120
Why do you guys build gauntlet instead of triforce?
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