So I tried out going Dblade->Bruta or BT right off the bat (skipping wriggles) and man....it feels completely different. I really like it though, if they don't have that scary of a jungler, push lane, go gank. Rinse and repeat. I didn't realize how absurd her damage was if you just went straight bruta+BF sword after 1-2 dorans. I will have to play around with it more but with the new masteries I don't feel locked into cloth+5pots anymore. Opening dorans against someone like Irelia really really helps win the lane. Could never feel safe before but that extra damage early is essential to getting ahead in CS so you can compete in the latter part of laning phase.

Navi

5286 Posts

November 16 2011 06:24 GMT

#182

if people run armor setup + cloth5pot you get crushed
ofc if the opponent doesn't give you the respect you deserve and go boots or dorans item themselves they get wrecked
but if they rune correctly and are good with their pots its hard to win against

dignity

Canada908 Posts

November 16 2011 07:57 GMT

#183

Quite honestly opening anything against irelia as riven would win you the lane since at early levels you just punish her to no end with your kit alone.

laundrycat

Australia5 Posts

November 16 2011 12:19 GMT

#184

I tried running a jungle Riven with 9/21/0 setup in a custom, I have to say I've never been so healthy after completing the intial Wolves > Wraiths > Golems with D Blade.

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

November 16 2011 15:17 GMT

#185

That has more to do with the new masteries being super fucking good than Riven and DBlade.

EMCL

United States71 Posts

November 16 2011 15:27 GMT

#186

Currently my main, 1800 NA.

I run exhaust/ignite.

Item build is generally cloth 5 -> boots (ninja vs heavy ad, merc otherwise), -> if I'm owning either very fast BF sword or brutalizer, otherwise finish wriggles -> BT -> GA if no other tank on team, otherwise IE other LW

edit: I go top almost always, I'm not the best jungler

necrosed

Brazil885 Posts

November 16 2011 18:12 GMT

#187

Navi, I can't DL the replays on the OP. Would you mind uploading to another mirror/adding some more gameplay of her?
:D

billy5000

United States865 Posts

November 17 2011 09:38 GMT

#188

omg..screw trying to gain creep advantage at lvl 1. as soon as your opponent goes for his first cs, q auto the shit out of him even if it means taking more damage from his creeps and giving up a few cs. you will usually come out fairly ahead. If for some reason trading hits doesn't come out in your favor, use that last q as an insurance to get away.

in other words, don't fight for level 2; you already won at lvl 1 against most champions.

btw has anyone tried replacing flash with cleanse? with her already crazy mobility, i don't see why not.

Hoban

United States1600 Posts

November 17 2011 21:17 GMT

#189

I can't really decide between flash, cleanse, exhaust, and ghost. I feel that exhaust is almost completely necessary. Most of the time I am diving the enemy carry and/or targeted first. Getting that exhaust on the carry is essential to living more than a couple seconds. For the others...Flash is nice for flash+exhaust+start comboing carry. Gives them little ability to react and helps you avoid the big stuff that prevents you from reaching the target. Ghost is the same logic as flash, just gives increased mobility instead of instant in-your-face. Cleanse though seems like the best option on paper, you cleanse out of the first CC that hits you and have a couple seconds of big CC reduction. Haven't tried it too much in practice. Massing some games today/tomorrow though so I will have a better idea soon.

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

November 17 2011 21:24 GMT

#190

I still prefer Flash/Tele. Ghost still doesn't measure up to Flash, and who needs Exhaust when you can just keep jumping on their face? Cleanse might be nice if you're against a heavy CC team, but slows don't really bother Riven with her Q and E.

Cloud

Sexico5880 Posts

November 18 2011 05:34 GMT

#191

These masteries make riven so broken imo. They need to get nerfed don't wanna see champs like riven get nerfed because of the new masteries :x

Gahlo

United States35152 Posts

November 18 2011 14:20 GMT

#192

Damage is up across the board it seems.

Blademage

United States128 Posts

November 20 2011 08:01 GMT

#193

after 2 days of training on noct, i finnaly took riven for a spin with new masteries.. holy shi.. so many ganks.. so much hp, so fast clears.. ive fallen in love with riven all over again >.<

freezaa

Germany88 Posts

November 21 2011 23:47 GMT

#194

Can you tell me your runes/mastieres/path Blademage? Would appreciate it =)

Sufinsil

United States760 Posts

November 22 2011 01:27 GMT

#195

Been have success going 11/10/9 Jungle Riven. I max W than E, Q at lv 1. Been pretty successful now in a few games. Even when my team tanked I am still positive K/D and a load of assists.

Takkara

United States2503 Posts

November 22 2011 01:37 GMT

#196

On November 22 2011 10:27 Sufinsil wrote:
Been have success going 11/10/9 Jungle Riven. I max W than E, Q at lv 1. Been pretty successful now in a few games. Even when my team tanked I am still positive K/D and a load of assists.

The new combat tree is too good on Riven (and even Jungle Riven) to only go 11 points into it. There's just no real reason to need buff duration and 10 points into defensive. There's just such efficient and effective masteries in deep combat that, combined with Riven's amazing scaling, just make her even more potent and scary. I think if you switched up to something like 21/6/0 (+3) you'd have an even more positive K/D... plus scarier ganks.

Gahlo

United States35152 Posts

November 22 2011 04:17 GMT

#197

I go 21/9/0...you see, Bladed Armor and I kinda have this thing. <3

Hoban

United States1600 Posts

November 22 2011 04:34 GMT

#198

Concerning EG and their last game at MLG (trying to keep this spoiler free). Westrice went Jungle Riven. Super excited about that because I have never seen him jungler her before. He started Boots+3pots and took blue->wolves. From here, his wraiths were stolen so he continued to golems then blue pill. The VoD didn't follow his route too much after this point but he ended up getting 2 dorans blades before continuing with his regular riven build instead of a wriggles. Do you think this is just because he was behind due to wraith steal or do you think going 2xDblades is better than a wriggles when you just need to get your core built fast (as Riven generally does).