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GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
July 14 2012 14:41 GMT
#141
Lol they keep ap scaling on xin even when its archaic and the only thing you might get with it is triforce.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 14:45:54
July 14 2012 14:41 GMT
#142
ugh. every time someone advocates nashors my desk gets a new indentation.

imo new xin should just go frozen heart/randuins for cdr. ghostblade for some damage + more cdr. then just build situationally. you could probably get away with 1-2 damage items on top of ghostblade since his ulti gives a ton of tank stats if you land it well.

On July 14 2012 23:41 GARO wrote:
Lol they keep ap scaling on xin even when its archaic and the only thing you might get with it is triforce.

tbh I hate the fact that Riot's making champs that have only AD ratios. What's wrong with having skills that don't scale with items (unless you play some trolly build)? the original concept behind ad/ap was that you build AD to do damage w/ autos and build AP to do damage with abilities. I understand that moving away from that concept gives you some really unique and cool champion concepts, but homogenizing ratios also makes for kinda boring (lack of) variety.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 16:10:43
July 14 2012 16:04 GMT
#143
On July 14 2012 23:20 Slayer91 wrote:
stringer is alright but lol nashors

nashors is for teh lulz

usually when i buy nashors im fed enough to win anyways. also wait, im not the first person to bring up nashors on xin? dear lord
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 17:24:43
July 14 2012 16:17 GMT
#144
I wish stinger built into some actual decent item for AD bruisers.
I love the new ult. Being able to isolate their AD in a lategame teamfight is really powerful.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
July 14 2012 16:21 GMT
#145
On July 15 2012 01:17 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I wish stinger built for some actual decent item for AD bruisers.

clearly you have not played bruiser teemo
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 14 2012 16:26 GMT
#146
On July 15 2012 01:21 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 01:17 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I wish stinger built for some actual decent item for AD bruisers.

clearly you have not played bruiser teemo

even for bruiser teemo stinger->nashors is pretty stupid. I'd rather go wit's->frozen mallet.
brolaf
Profile Joined May 2012
291 Posts
July 14 2012 16:51 GMT
#147
On July 15 2012 01:26 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 01:21 101toss wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:17 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I wish stinger built for some actual decent item for AD bruisers.

clearly you have not played bruiser teemo

even for bruiser teemo stinger->nashors is pretty stupid. I'd rather go wit's->frozen mallet.

but then you miss the AP mixture that works so well with Teemos ratios
czylu
Profile Joined June 2012
477 Posts
July 14 2012 18:38 GMT
#148
On July 15 2012 01:26 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 01:21 101toss wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:17 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I wish stinger built for some actual decent item for AD bruisers.

clearly you have not played bruiser teemo

even for bruiser teemo stinger->nashors is pretty stupid. I'd rather go wit's->frozen mallet.


I also find Nashor's pretty good on Kayle. The AP ratio is not so good on his E, but the Q and W. The CDR and AS are also quite crucial to Kayle.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 15 2012 00:39 GMT
#149
On July 15 2012 03:38 czylu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 01:26 Ryuu314 wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:21 101toss wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:17 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I wish stinger built for some actual decent item for AD bruisers.

clearly you have not played bruiser teemo

even for bruiser teemo stinger->nashors is pretty stupid. I'd rather go wit's->frozen mallet.


I also find Nashor's pretty good on Kayle. The AP ratio is not so good on his E, but the Q and W. The CDR and AS are also quite crucial to Kayle.

kayle is a she
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-15 01:36:54
July 15 2012 01:36 GMT
#150
Hey guys how do you feel about support xin? He has bad scaling anyways, a decent knockup and gap closer, support items are fine on him (starks/omen/aegis/shurelyas), and they will be giving him a knockback on him ult and 15% armor reduction. Janna 2.0?
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 15 2012 02:40 GMT
#151
On July 15 2012 01:51 brolaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 01:26 Ryuu314 wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:21 101toss wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:17 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I wish stinger built for some actual decent item for AD bruisers.

clearly you have not played bruiser teemo

even for bruiser teemo stinger->nashors is pretty stupid. I'd rather go wit's->frozen mallet.

but then you miss the AP mixture that works so well with Teemos ratios

..................

if you're goin bruiser Teemo why do you need AP? Besides, it's 65 AP for 2.6k and most of Teemo's damage comes from his E, which has a 0.14 AP ratio.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
July 15 2012 02:52 GMT
#152
On July 15 2012 11:40 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 01:51 brolaf wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:26 Ryuu314 wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:21 101toss wrote:
On July 15 2012 01:17 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I wish stinger built for some actual decent item for AD bruisers.

clearly you have not played bruiser teemo

even for bruiser teemo stinger->nashors is pretty stupid. I'd rather go wit's->frozen mallet.

but then you miss the AP mixture that works so well with Teemos ratios

..................

if you're goin bruiser Teemo why do you need AP? Besides, it's 65 AP for 2.6k and most of Teemo's damage comes from his E, which has a 0.14 AP ratio.

i think ur too ez to troll
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
July 15 2012 06:58 GMT
#153
On July 15 2012 10:36 101toss wrote:
Hey guys how do you feel about support xin? He has bad scaling anyways, a decent knockup and gap closer, support items are fine on him (starks/omen/aegis/shurelyas), and they will be giving him a knockback on him ult and 15% armor reduction. Janna 2.0?

Support Xin is amazing as is. I think the rework will actually hurt support Xin. If you open cloth+ward+pots, at lvl 2 and 3 you're even manlier than support garen/j4/pantheon. 2 dorans shield+merc+aegis. Wriggles if you're into that kind of thing.
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
July 15 2012 12:16 GMT
#154
On July 15 2012 10:36 101toss wrote:
Hey guys how do you feel about support xin? He has bad scaling anyways, a decent knockup and gap closer, support items are fine on him (starks/omen/aegis/shurelyas), and they will be giving him a knockback on him ult and 15% armor reduction. Janna 2.0?

Because he can safely knock people up without getting near them, gives your AD a free BF sword from level 9 onwards and is able to heal your whole team in clutch situations? A support character is a champion who does great without farm, not one who is good with auras. Support Xin is garbage.
currently rooting for myself.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-15 14:29:06
July 15 2012 14:28 GMT
#155
nah support xin is beast you just gotta steal some cs and stack dem dblades.
4 dblades ninja tabi into mallet or if you're fed wits/phage-->trinity. works on support wukongtoo.
I only do it in ranked 5's and normals thoughbecause I don't want to troll peole in solo queue so I can't seriously vouch for it but I usually do suprisingly well.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
July 15 2012 21:27 GMT
#156
Oh boy, with the rework coming out I'm gonna need to play Xin a bunch against and see what works + what doesn't.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
July 20 2012 16:07 GMT
#157
Dear lord

New Xin real terror
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
July 20 2012 16:47 GMT
#158
how has xin been? I haven't encountered any yet.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
July 20 2012 16:50 GMT
#159
Who counters Xin? Olaf? Riven ? Teemo?

Hes so flipping strong, he is true terror.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
July 20 2012 16:52 GMT
#160
On July 21 2012 01:50 RogerX wrote:
Who counters Xin? Olaf? Riven ? Teemo?

Hes so flipping strong, he is true terror.


Rumble for sure, and then Irelia might or the guy I played just wasn't good at xin. I just played safe on Irelia till 9 and phage and started winning every trade
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
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