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LazyFailKid
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada750 Posts
January 08 2013 06:16 GMT
#321
How do you play against this guy top lane? Was playing AP yi vs him and he just outright CRUSHED me (although i think he got 1st blood or something since he came to lane with longsword, boots, 3pot) Anyway, are there any timings I should be aware of that he just crushes other people during apart from the level 2 (found that one out the hard way )?
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
January 08 2013 06:52 GMT
#322
On January 08 2013 15:16 LazyFailKid wrote:
How do you play against this guy top lane? Was playing AP yi vs him and he just outright CRUSHED me (although i think he got 1st blood or something since he came to lane with longsword, boots, 3pot) Anyway, are there any timings I should be aware of that he just crushes other people during apart from the level 2 (found that one out the hard way )?

Well, after the level 2, there's the level 3, the level 4, the level 5, and level 6. What happens after 6? No one knows.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 08 2013 08:45 GMT
#323
He has no escapes so if he falls behind you'll eat him alive or at the very least zone him. He's also vulnerable to ganks because of that, especially if you can bait him onto you beforehand.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 08 2013 09:35 GMT
#324
if xin E's he has no chance of getting away, that's why junglers like olaf are really good vs him as olaf is as strong 1v1 and has perma slow for counterganks.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 08 2013 14:13 GMT
#325
xin's ult is an escape
wait for gank -> don't attack anyone -> ult after they get close = janna ult + shyvana passive
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 08 2013 14:23 GMT
#326
I only see Xin in the jungle in solo queue for some reason. Jungle Xin real terror when people don't know what a ward is.
It's your boy Guzma!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 08 2013 14:24 GMT
#327
Xins clearing is really bad but his ganks are strong
kinda a bad version of jungle riven which is actually legit

except he ganks even better than riven but I've played so many games when jungle xin gets 3-4 kills and is still useless, you need so many kills to make up for lack of farm and xp
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 08 2013 14:28 GMT
#328
I've never really thought of Xin as worse than Riven in the jungle, honestly. Riven really needs more gold because she's worthless without AD, while Xin can get some semi-tank items and still 1v1 non-fed carries pretty easily. I can see the clear speed difference, though.
It's your boy Guzma!
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 08 2013 14:31 GMT
#329
xin's clearing is awesome, don't go for spirit stone, go for razer/wriggles
machete + 5, get first blood 100% of games either invading or ganking, razer immediately and then just clear every camp in 3 hits and gank every lane with maxed E

jungle xin gives me a chubby
[image loading]

obviously much better than my ahri and elise :3

but yeah invade every single game, fight everyone you come across, never EVER back down, gank every lane repeatedly, get hella fed, build purely offensive, kamikaze bomber into a fight like diamondprox does with xin, win every game. my kda is terrible but my win% is so high that i'm relatively sure i'm playing him right
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
HOOG
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada52 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 16:02:21
January 08 2013 16:01 GMT
#330
The most important part to playing Xin is to play this song on repeat:

and make a man out of everyone who crosses your path!

edit: wow, just posting the link makes the youtube video embedded? You are fantastic TL :D
1250 ELO too stronk!
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 16:47:14
January 08 2013 16:44 GMT
#331
I don't really play him anything like that, and my win rate is nearly as high. >_> I usually just aim for 40% cdr while building tanky.

The more I jungle Xin, the less I like wriggles. Razor is enough, but making wriggles really slows down the huge tanky items, and while the lifesteal is nice, it isn't exactly necessary.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
January 08 2013 18:03 GMT
#332
On January 09 2013 01:44 zer0das wrote:
I don't really play him anything like that, and my win rate is nearly as high. >_> I usually just aim for 40% cdr while building tanky.

The more I jungle Xin, the less I like wriggles. Razor is enough, but making wriggles really slows down the huge tanky items, and while the lifesteal is nice, it isn't exactly necessary.


I tried out to build xin with: spirit stone, cdr boots, bruta, kindlegem, golem, visage in varying order. It maxes cdr brutally fast and has all the stats xin needs in a very cheap set of items. It also builds up cheap and easy for more damage and gives a minimum set resistances so you can adapt to the teamcomp. Being tanky enough and having enough cdr to use his abilities a couple times in a fight is all xin can ask for to be a very strong initator.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 08 2013 18:11 GMT
#333
On January 08 2013 23:31 gtrsrs wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
xin's clearing is awesome, don't go for spirit stone, go for razer/wriggles
machete + 5, get first blood 100% of games either invading or ganking, razer immediately and then just clear every camp in 3 hits and gank every lane with maxed E

jungle xin gives me a chubby
[image loading]

obviously much better than my ahri and elise :3

but yeah invade every single game, fight everyone you come across, never EVER back down, gank every lane repeatedly, get hella fed, build purely offensive, kamikaze bomber into a fight like diamondprox does with xin, win every game. my kda is terrible but my win% is so high that i'm relatively sure i'm playing him right



sry but I giggled at the Tl #1 Ahri 36% winrate^^
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
January 08 2013 18:41 GMT
#334
On January 09 2013 01:01 HOOG wrote:
The most important part to playing Xin is to play this song on repeat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSS5dEeMX64
and make a man out of everyone who crosses your path!

edit: wow, just posting the link makes the youtube video embedded? You are fantastic TL :D



Dunno dood. It's hard for me to take a Donny Osmond song seriously.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 18:54:11
January 08 2013 18:53 GMT
#335
On January 09 2013 03:03 clickrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 01:44 zer0das wrote:
I don't really play him anything like that, and my win rate is nearly as high. >_> I usually just aim for 40% cdr while building tanky.

The more I jungle Xin, the less I like wriggles. Razor is enough, but making wriggles really slows down the huge tanky items, and while the lifesteal is nice, it isn't exactly necessary.


I tried out to build xin with: spirit stone, cdr boots, bruta, kindlegem, golem, visage in varying order. It maxes cdr brutally fast and has all the stats xin needs in a very cheap set of items. It also builds up cheap and easy for more damage and gives a minimum set resistances so you can adapt to the teamcomp. Being tanky enough and having enough cdr to use his abilities a couple times in a fight is all xin can ask for to be a very strong initator.

Razor/wriggles >>>>>>> spirit stone on xin

Or you can't clear jungle fast enough
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
January 08 2013 19:07 GMT
#336
anyone else max e first on top xin? i think it makes his sticking power so much more
:-)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 08 2013 19:29 GMT
#337
If you read what's been posted before when you barge in here you'd know it's what has been advocated through-out most of the thread.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
January 08 2013 22:50 GMT
#338
I second a) getting razor and b) not upgrading razor to Wriggles.
Xin's attackspeed makes razor super good at jungledunking and the stats on spiritstone aren't any more useful than those on razor.
As to b, Xin doesn't need the survivability from wriggles to jungle, and he really wants some tankiness or damage as soon as possible. If you really miss the ward, just buy Sightstone.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 27 2013 16:41 GMT
#339
I think everyone agrees that maxing E is the best, the only debate is whether to max w or q after, KT jungler maxes w, everyone else maxes Q second. Apen reds and aspd quints should be the standard. This is for jungle xin.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 27 2013 17:03 GMT
#340
W second is only ever good for jungling as far as I can see, don't think its worth it.
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