EPT[Champion] Xin Zhao - Page 16
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On December 29 2012 21:03 Roffles wrote: Where the fuck does a D come from in Xins name??????? From the chinese sound for "Zh" | ||
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SixSongs
Poland1455 Posts
On December 05 2012 19:54 Mogwai wrote: keep it on the dl, but ghostblade -> iceborn gauntlet -> spirit visage is the perfect core on Xin right now. I tried it but its so hard to get. And it takes forever. I can get ghotsblade at earlierst 15 min mark. Is that normal? | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23448 Posts
spirit of the ancient golem+cdr boots+brutalizer+spirit visage is 40% cdr and good hp/damage/mr/armour and tenacity I see a lot of wriggles sunfire stuff but it doesnt make sense really. Spirit of the ancient golem is probably better than sunfire on xin for jungling and it's cheaper and gives tenacity letting you go for cdr later. | ||
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petered
United States1817 Posts
I was under the impression that the Chinese sound for Zh was closer to a J sound. I guess there is a soft d sound just before the J, but usually I find it easier to describe as a J. But I am no expert on Chinese obviously. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On December 29 2012 23:26 SixSongs wrote: I tried it but its so hard to get. And it takes forever. I can get ghotsblade at earlierst 15 min mark. Is that normal? pretty much. you'll also notice if you read more of the thread, I updated that core to replace iceborn with Black Cleaver, and while we're on that subject, you can do either cleaver for blowing people up or locket for surviving. I was embarrassingly unaware of locket up until like 3 weeks ago. On December 30 2012 22:20 Slayer91 wrote: yeah madreds and especially wriggles have terrible cost efficiency nowadays. spirit of the ancient golem+cdr boots+brutalizer+spirit visage is 40% cdr and good hp/damage/mr/armour and tenacity I see a lot of wriggles sunfire stuff but it doesnt make sense really. Spirit of the ancient golem is probably better than sunfire on xin for jungling and it's cheaper and gives tenacity letting you go for cdr later. the wriggle's upgrade is 100 gold for 5 Armor, 5 AD, +200 damage to your procs (50 damage/attack on creeps), and a ward every 3 minutes. I dunno how you can say that wriggle's is worse cost efficiency than madreds. I dunno man, I can get the distaste for madred's items from a theorycrafting level, but in practice, it feels like an incredibly drastic increase in jungling speed on single target junglers and post madred's, wriggle's is very efficient. Even though I'm maxing E during levels 7-10, I still don't use it much in the jungle, as using E to clear camps typically leaves you struggling on mana, which makes ganking much more difficult. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23448 Posts
I dont much like spirit visage, it's not amazingly efficient but since you use all the stats it's decent. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23448 Posts
The only reason I like spirit stone because spirit of the ancient golem is like 30 armour and tenacity for very cheap. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On January 02 2013 06:30 Slayer91 wrote: It just makes me sad to buy wriggles after how much it's nerfed, but I guess its probably easier to go wriggles mercs than going for the spirit of the ancient golem. Lifesteal saves on pots in general. I just see the nerfs from the old 19% lifesteal 23 ad 30 armor wriggles The only reason I like spirit stone because spirit of the ancient golem is like 30 armour and tenacity for very cheap. right, well, wriggle's isn't apeshit OP anymore, but if madred's makes sense on your character, wriggle's is still an efficient upgrade. I still like ancient golem, but I just don't find that xin has the base damage/mana necessary to still clear camps efficiently if he goes spirit stone. On January 02 2013 06:40 zulu_nation8 wrote: i get madreds for early dragon control then emblem of valor, then either locket or aegis. The more I've been thinking, the more I'm wondering about just going double kindlegem after bruta in lane and madred's/wriggle's in jungle. have you tried builds like this? with his ult, Xin's strongest defensive stat is HP, and CDR is beast mode on him, so a build that just gets a bunch of HP/CDR early and transitions to locket/zeke's/visage as necessary seems pretty darn strong. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23448 Posts
Wriggles seemed good on riven,and probably xin for jungle. Shaco and lee are the other guys who kinda want it. Not sure if anyone else aside from niche junglers do though. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23448 Posts
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BlasiuS
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