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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 26 2012 02:34 GMT
#281
On December 26 2012 11:31 Tula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2012 11:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
You max Q top lane because of E's mana costs and because you should be running full armor pen. You can trade with Q up every 5 seconds very well and dont have to waste precious mana on E.

max E looks way better in jungle though


personally i put my first point into E at level 4 when jungling (QWQEEREEQE basically) because you do need 2 points in Q and one in W to jungle efficiently. For ganks the lower CD and higher slow on E is pretty mandatory. You'll seldom get off more than one Q when ganking the solo lanes, but sometimes when they flash the cooldown of E is just short enough to run them down.

In Top lane on the other hand I always max Q simply because it is more mana efficient to trade with Q every few seconds.

Curiously, does anyone buy hybrid items on xin to use his AP ratio on E and W? Personally I experimented with rageblade, but even as top lane I don't feel I have the money to afford it. Straight up tank items with a smattering of damage (phage and ghostblade basically) seem to pay off far more.


I read someone who posted earlier in this Xin thread about an AP Xin stomping people but I can't imagine a proper item path that wouldn't turn Xin into an AP glass cannon @_@

Xin already has fairly atrocious base stats.
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ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
December 26 2012 03:14 GMT
#282
R>E>Q>W, Bruta first then Locket Top Xin is hilarious against any physical damage dealing champion. Always all-in, never not all-in.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 26 2012 03:23 GMT
#283
On December 26 2012 11:34 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2012 11:31 Tula wrote:
On December 26 2012 11:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
You max Q top lane because of E's mana costs and because you should be running full armor pen. You can trade with Q up every 5 seconds very well and dont have to waste precious mana on E.

max E looks way better in jungle though


personally i put my first point into E at level 4 when jungling (QWQEEREEQE basically) because you do need 2 points in Q and one in W to jungle efficiently. For ganks the lower CD and higher slow on E is pretty mandatory. You'll seldom get off more than one Q when ganking the solo lanes, but sometimes when they flash the cooldown of E is just short enough to run them down.

In Top lane on the other hand I always max Q simply because it is more mana efficient to trade with Q every few seconds.

Curiously, does anyone buy hybrid items on xin to use his AP ratio on E and W? Personally I experimented with rageblade, but even as top lane I don't feel I have the money to afford it. Straight up tank items with a smattering of damage (phage and ghostblade basically) seem to pay off far more.


I read someone who posted earlier in this Xin thread about an AP Xin stomping people but I can't imagine a proper item path that wouldn't turn Xin into an AP glass cannon @_@

Xin already has fairly atrocious base stats.

Nashor's, Rageblade, Spirit visage, and something like Locket to cap you on CDR/get more armor?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 26 2012 05:38 GMT
#284
On December 26 2012 11:31 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2012 11:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
You max Q top lane because of E's mana costs and because you should be running full armor pen. You can trade with Q up every 5 seconds very well and dont have to waste precious mana on E.

max E looks way better in jungle though


My thinking is the opposite. You activate Q in lane, your opponent is not going to let you land all 3 hits of Q on them if they're even remotely competent. Leveling E increases to slow and the likelihood of you landing your Q as a follow up.

In Jungle, make use of the AD ratio of Q against inanimate creeps. I'd only use QW in Jungle, not E. Use E as gapcloser for ganks and hope the lane you're ganking for has additional CC so you can make use of your max'd Q.


the secret to xin is learning to auto move with his Q so that you land all 3 hits without having to use E. My account is Bin just so I have credentials when speaking about Xin, he is my most played by far lately with a 70+ winrate
I come in for the scraps
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
December 26 2012 18:55 GMT
#285
On December 26 2012 11:34 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2012 11:31 Tula wrote:
On December 26 2012 11:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
You max Q top lane because of E's mana costs and because you should be running full armor pen. You can trade with Q up every 5 seconds very well and dont have to waste precious mana on E.

max E looks way better in jungle though


personally i put my first point into E at level 4 when jungling (QWQEEREEQE basically) because you do need 2 points in Q and one in W to jungle efficiently. For ganks the lower CD and higher slow on E is pretty mandatory. You'll seldom get off more than one Q when ganking the solo lanes, but sometimes when they flash the cooldown of E is just short enough to run them down.

In Top lane on the other hand I always max Q simply because it is more mana efficient to trade with Q every few seconds.

Curiously, does anyone buy hybrid items on xin to use his AP ratio on E and W? Personally I experimented with rageblade, but even as top lane I don't feel I have the money to afford it. Straight up tank items with a smattering of damage (phage and ghostblade basically) seem to pay off far more.


I read someone who posted earlier in this Xin thread about an AP Xin stomping people but I can't imagine a proper item path that wouldn't turn Xin into an AP glass cannon @_@

Xin already has fairly atrocious base stats.


He wasn't "stomping people", but he was absurdly strong at dueling. (This was queuing with some scrubby friends.)
He engaged Warwick + Soraka with like 300 health and came out with twice that much and a double kill.
However, he was very glass cannon and just died in teamfights.
His build was Nashor's, Rageblade, and I don't remember what else. I think FMallet and GA?
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 26 2012 19:59 GMT
#286
well that's not really an AP build, but those items are indeed strong on xin although unpractical. If you wanna build for damage those are what you would get.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
December 26 2012 20:19 GMT
#287
0 reason to get nashor's when zephyr is in the game, zephyr gives everything good that nashor's gives without the AP, + more goodies
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 27 2012 16:59 GMT
#288
On December 27 2012 05:19 gtrsrs wrote:
0 reason to get nashor's when zephyr is in the game, zephyr gives everything good that nashor's gives without the AP, + more goodies

20 vs. 10 CDR is a pretty big difference. I agree with you for the most part, but nashor's gets you to the magic 40% CDR much quicker than zephyr, which is relevant. It's just that there is enough good CDR itemization in the game right now that you can adapt the build path to get your 40% CDR anyway.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
December 27 2012 17:01 GMT
#289
yeah, with FH and BC you don't need nashor, and i feel like getting at least 1 of those is core on xin (and i hog blue buff because my mid is bad, always, regardless of who it is)
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
December 29 2012 05:51 GMT
#290
Can u give a newbie advice on this hero? What items to buy or what spells to use. Or maybe I should switch to another hero? Thanks in advance :D
The Prince of DroneS
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
December 29 2012 07:35 GMT
#291
how do you guys pronounce xin's name? "Shin" zhao? "Zin" Zhao?
I CANT STAND IT ANYMORE
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
December 29 2012 08:14 GMT
#292
On December 29 2012 14:51 SixSongs wrote:
Can u give a newbie advice on this hero? What items to buy or what spells to use. Or maybe I should switch to another hero? Thanks in advance :D


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=247497&currentpage=13

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Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
December 29 2012 08:33 GMT
#293
On December 29 2012 16:35 Navi wrote:
how do you guys pronounce xin's name? "Shin" zhao? "Zin" Zhao?
I CANT STAND IT ANYMORE


I pronounce it "Win Now."
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scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
December 29 2012 08:37 GMT
#294
On December 29 2012 16:35 Navi wrote:
how do you guys pronounce xin's name? "Shin" zhao? "Zin" Zhao?
I CANT STAND IT ANYMORE

shin
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
December 29 2012 10:07 GMT
#295
all my chinese friends say shin zhao so i use that
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 29 2012 10:47 GMT
#296
Its actually more Sheen than Shin.
God Bless
SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
December 29 2012 10:59 GMT
#297
On December 29 2012 17:14 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 14:51 SixSongs wrote:
Can u give a newbie advice on this hero? What items to buy or what spells to use. Or maybe I should switch to another hero? Thanks in advance :D


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=247497&currentpage=13

-.-


Sorry but this is not easy to understand for me. Can u explain? What items to buy when?
The Prince of DroneS
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 29 2012 11:07 GMT
#298
On December 29 2012 19:59 SixSongs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 17:14 iCanada wrote:
On December 29 2012 14:51 SixSongs wrote:
Can u give a newbie advice on this hero? What items to buy or what spells to use. Or maybe I should switch to another hero? Thanks in advance :D


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=247497&currentpage=13

-.-


Sorry but this is not easy to understand for me. Can u explain? What items to buy when?

It all depends on how the game is going. It'd be dumb going the same build in the same order every game, cause every game differs. Learn to think and get a feel for what you need to get in order for you to be useful every game. Plus whats hard to understand? He lists like 4 items in a one liner...
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AcesAnoka
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium262 Posts
December 29 2012 11:18 GMT
#299
On December 29 2012 16:35 Navi wrote:
how do you guys pronounce xin's name? "Shin" zhao? "Zin" Zhao?
I CANT STAND IT ANYMORE



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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 11:50:27
December 29 2012 11:45 GMT
#300
On December 29 2012 16:35 Navi wrote:
how do you guys pronounce xin's name? "Shin" zhao? "Zin" Zhao?
I CANT STAND IT ANYMORE

Chinese pronunciation would be pretty close to "Sheen Draoh", barely pronouncing the "D" or not pronouncing it at all.
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