corki just carried me to silver! yeah! won 7 games in a row with him, thanks corki.
his passive is so strong. he does 110% dmg, it makes it really easy to trade Autos with other AD carries. also his W is so strong that you can push your lane and still escape ganks very easily.
I usually go bloodthirster then trinity force but i dont really know what to build after that. Usually im way ahead by then so I go guinsoo's, but im not sure if Black Cleaver is actually even stronger with corki. It almost seems like you just want to build as much DMG as possible because of his passive... but overall he feels like a very strong champion, and almost any itemization will work with his awesome kit!
Anyways, I just wanted to say thanks corki! gg all
Get a Last Whisper and a Statikk Shiv and a Guardian Angel as your last 3 items.
Guinsoo's Rageblade is a gimmicky item that's only really good for the sustain, but you're better off buying more damage to boost your lifesteal.
Black Cleaver doesn't do as much damage as the standard set of core ADC items. Miss Fortune will buy it because she can basically stack the passive to max with her ult in no time flat and it's like she bought a Last Whisper for all her teammates. If Corki is close enough to do the same thing with his Gatling Gun, he's going to get blown up really quickly.
Played vs a corki yesterday and he couldn't trade at all with our jinx. Haven't played him since the Q changes, but it really removed his early lane dominance (instant Q+auto).
Is Corki back now? AD ratio on Q means BT first (like every other adc LEL) will be a lot stronger now. Planning on playing a few games once the patch hits OCE.
Yeah he has pretty sick AD scaling now, 0.1 on passive, 0.5 (bonus AD) on Q, 1.6 (bonus AD) on E, and 0.2/0.3/0.4 on his R. BT -> Tri -> LW would give him pretty powerful 1, 2, and 3 item power spikes.
putting a tiny bonus ad ratio on a skill that you're never going to hit anyway isn't going to change anything for corki except now there will be a wider variety of item builds people try out for a couple games, fail with, and then give up on the champion again..
The trick is to know what your opponent's range is and use it right before you trade auto. If your opponent stay to trade, he eats the Q and your +10% true damage auto. If he runs back to dodge it then you still get a free auto off while taking no damage yourself. Make sure you do it near your own minion and preferably when you have the minion advantage, because if your opponent is ballsy and walk past his own max range then you lose the trade since your Q miss and he still lands an auto + his own spell. If he refuse to trade then he'll slowly get whittled down by your rockets. You can also use it if the enemy support extends too far out to harass. Laid it along his retreat path so you and your support can retaliate.
And BT is unquestionably the best first item for Corki now. Even if you don't land a single Q, your rocket, gattling gun, and passive all scales with AD. Although Corki is strong no matter how you build him. A lot of people complaint about his mixed damage but that's one of his strength, not his weakness. You can't neutralize him fully with any defensive build. He'll shit on you with armor pen and/or magic pen but he doesn't need either.
Why Cleaver instead of LW? Because %armor pen and armor shred work against each other. If your opponent has 100 armor, and your gattling gun shreds 40 then he is left with 60 armor for the 35% armor pen of LW. Black Cleaver + Gattling Gun will shred 40 + 25% armor which will also benefit all your physical damage allies. And Stacking pure armor against Corki probably isn't the best idea considering that he also has true and magic damage (hence the Sorc and Liandry).
So having LW or BC doesn't change anything for you, save from the fact that you'll need to stack the BC to end up with less ignored armour (25% instead of 35%) unless they have less than 100 armour. If your physical damage is frontloaded then BC's bad (luckily for you, Corki's isn't that much, especially if you can catch your target with the Gatling Gun). Since it only works on his gatling and autos it doesn't affect his poke too much either. if your goal is to burst people down with Spellblade on-hits (and autos) then LW would be better though.
So having LW or BC doesn't change anything for you, save from the fact that you'll need to stack the BC to end up with less ignored armour (25% instead of 35%) unless they have less than 100 armour. If your physical damage is frontloaded then BC's bad (luckily for you, Corki's isn't that much, especially if you can catch your target with the Gatling Gun). Since it only works on his gatling and autos it doesn't affect his poke too much either. if your goal is to burst people down with Spellblade on-hits (and autos) then LW would be better though.
The 10 flat armor pen and the fact that you actually shred instead of penetrate makes it easily worth more than pure %pen. Gattling gun is also an AOE so you might even be able to shred multiple people for 40 + 25% which would help immensely if you have a AD top or jungler. Don't forget that Corki himself also don't rely on physical damage as them so penetration would not be as cost effectively.
I'm pretty sure that wiki is outdated btw. I recall one of the early changes of S3 was %pen being applied before flat.
Edit: Actually nvm. Looks like that's included. Reduction actually remains the same. So LW is better early because the penetration is instant but BC catches up after all shreds are applied and would benefit more if your allies deal physical. It is also better if you manage to shred more than one target.
Na, BC is better against sub-100 armour targets (once it's stacked) and worse after that. Unless your teamcomp revolves around diving you're more likely to deal with > 100 armour bruisers trying to get in your face or AP assassins with either Zhonya or the mobility to try and kill you before you can stack.
As for the "damage from the rest of your team" part, again it depends: if you're left to fend for yourself (team with divers and maybe an utility support/mid to peel for you) it won't change much, if they focus the same target as you it's more viable. However, since you should be your team's primary damage dealer, or close to it, it's more interesting to have you buy a LW while a teammate buys a BC in these cases: this way you'll benefit from both.
Obviously, with the current set of top laners and the junglers building Flare and BotRK/Ghostblade it may not be as easy as in the previous months... Vi, Kha'Zix, Pantheon, Wukong, etc. are still decent carriers though.
Wouldn't you max your E last anyway on Corki? It seems like the 16 second fixed CD and low overall damage against tanky targets(that you would have to deal with first) would make the 2 second/level reduction in your escape/initiation stronger.
i don't know how it is now after all the nerfs, but i only had any success with corki after playing him ap and getting used to not even skilling/using E at all.
Why AP? I know that AP is cheaper but Corki has better AD scaling than AP. (.1 Total + .5 bonus + 0 + 1.6 bonus + 2./.3/.4 Total) vs. (0 + .5 + 1 + 0 + .3). The damage on W is also very unreliable and you can't use it offensively. I think BT is too good for Corki to not build it. The most I would do is buying void staff late game if the other team is heavy on MR
On April 23 2014 09:22 AsianEcksDragon wrote: Why AP? I know that AP is cheaper but Corki has better AD scaling than AP. (.1 Total + .5 bonus + 0 + 1.6 bonus + 2./.3/.4 Total) vs. (0 + .5 + 1 + 0 + .3). The damage on W is also very unreliable and you can't use it offensively. I think BT is too good for Corki to not build it. The most I would do is buying void staff late game if the other team is heavy on MR
i'm not sure that you read the first few words in my post, i was speaking in the past tense and only trying to provide context for how unimportant i thought his E was.
On April 23 2014 03:09 chalice wrote: i don't know how it is now after all the nerfs, but i only had any success with corki after playing him ap and getting used to not even skilling/using E at all.
Thats prolly the best Skill order lol. The E is so terrible. If it was an instant cast, ok. But 16 sec CD and you cant even use it properly when you kite.... holy.
I dont understand why turtle plays him so often. I mean, he is fun to play, but I highly doubt he is top tier. The magic damage on Q and R, no steroid + one of the lowest AS gains.
Magic damage wasn't a problem at all when Corki had a instant-cast Q and a shorter cooldown on R, because the base would be so high he'd just buy sorcs and truck people during the midgame where he was dominating, after having a strong laning (thanks to Q+auto burst and later pressure through R spam). 'cept Riot was all "damn he's like super stronger at precise points in the game, fuck his atypical power curve, we gotta push him in line" and destroyed his Q and repeatedly nerfed R.
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