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Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
September 02 2013 20:32 GMT
#121
ah, hybrid pen runes are definitely good on corki. I really doubt sorc shoes are better, but it depends on your build. I do TF build on corki and there's no room for a PD so zerkers seem pretty mandatory for a bit of extra AS. Not sure if hybrid runes and 1 AD quint is going to be enough to last hit under tower with passive though.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 02 2013 20:47 GMT
#122
that isn't taking into consideration CSing at all which is the entire reason ADs don't run arp reds in the first place.
Carrilord has arrived.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-02 21:23:21
September 02 2013 21:10 GMT
#123
On September 03 2013 05:47 Slusher wrote:
that isn't taking into consideration CSing at all which is the entire reason ADs don't run arp reds in the first place.

Between his passive and all the APen he does pretty much the same damage, if not more, as the other ADCs when using a hybrid page.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 02 2013 21:58 GMT
#124
I'm not sure what you are trying to say here unless you plan to use phoso to CS which just isn't going to work.
Carrilord has arrived.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
September 02 2013 22:57 GMT
#125
On September 03 2013 06:58 Slusher wrote:
I'm not sure what you are trying to say here unless you plan to use phoso to CS which just isn't going to work.

What I am trying to say is that his passive adds true damage, and the armor pen adds damage too which combined results in same amount if not more against minions (and scales faster) when compared to other ADCs using the standard AD page.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 02 2013 23:28 GMT
#126
and my point is so do standard arp runes, and nobody runs those for a reason.
Carrilord has arrived.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
September 03 2013 00:27 GMT
#127
Corki does enough damage with autos that you can run a mix of arpen and AD and still CS fine under a turret with a dblade opening.

If you run arpen/hybrid reds and AD quints you'll do very similar levels of damage to creeps as other AD's who run a full AD page. I would go with hybrid pen though, because so much of his damage is magic until mid-lategame.

With a dblade opening, passive gives ~7 damage, and AD reds is like 9. If you ran just a couple AD reds, you'd be at the same level of damage as other AD's. I'd still stick with 2 LS 1 AD quint though for efficiency purposes.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
September 03 2013 12:45 GMT
#128
Personally I'd only use LS quints (but go up to 3) against a Caitlyn opponent, a lot of my ADC friends say Corki can win early through high burst and all-ins with an aggressive support but meh I eat way too much poke until level 6.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
September 07 2013 10:15 GMT
#129
For the interested KT Score is playing MPen ADC Corki atm,

http://www.twitch.tv/ongamenet
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
September 07 2013 10:25 GMT
#130
On September 07 2013 19:15 Jek wrote:
For the interested KT Score is playing MPen ADC Corki atm,

http://www.twitch.tv/ongamenet


Exactly what I thought. Do you know which runes he runs?

However, we should remember that Corki eats Vayne alive in lane, when did he buy the Sorc boots?
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
September 07 2013 12:13 GMT
#131
score went triforce > boots1 > LW/sorcs
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
September 07 2013 13:01 GMT
#132
I'm quite sure he had botrk before sorcs
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
September 07 2013 13:38 GMT
#133
nope
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-07 15:24:55
September 07 2013 15:24 GMT
#134
On September 07 2013 22:01 RouaF wrote:
I'm quite sure he had botrk before sorcs

Nope, he certainly got LW and Sorcs before BotrK, pretty sure it was:

Tri Force -> Boots 1 -> Pickaxe -> Sorcs -> LW
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
September 08 2013 12:58 GMT
#135
In the EU-W challenger series on friday, I saw Fnatic Rekkles playing for Wolves copying the Korean Corki build of Triforce into Last Whisper. What's up with this?

I assume that your AAs really hurt when you combine LW penetration + Gatling Gun armor reduction with the new 200% Sheen proc (some kind of 'true damage crit' which works with Corki's passive), but wouldn't IE hit even harder? Or is this some setup for the following BotrK that profits from the additional penetration?

But then again, why not go Zerkes when you focus on your AAs + penetration combination? I see the benefit of Sorc Boots however, but they are probably best bought pretty early in the game.

Questions over questions, please help, thanks in advance.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 17:34:26
September 08 2013 17:33 GMT
#136
What item would you buy IE for instead?

The thing is with the Trinity build you don't really focus all that much on sustained damage through autos that much in the early (TF/LW + boots2) stages. TF/Sheen proc is a massive amount of damage, IE hits as a truck if you crit but TF/Sheen always "hit".

Sorcs just rock on Corki, you really just have to try it once to see for youself.
- your rockets and bombs hit like a truck without any other commitment than sorcs and some hybrid runes.

An early LW is somewhat situational I think, but it do work wonderful with a burst damage route (which the TF encourage) regardless of enemy composition. Just like how Void Staff can easily add more damage than a Deathcap on some champions.
I really like how the early LW allows Corki to flow seamlessly into the standard lategame auto-attack focused ADC build.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 17:45:13
September 08 2013 17:39 GMT
#137
On September 08 2013 21:58 little fancy wrote:
In the EU-W challenger series on friday, I saw Fnatic Rekkles playing for Wolves copying the Korean Corki build of Triforce into Last Whisper. What's up with this?

I assume that your AAs really hurt when you combine LW penetration + Gatling Gun armor reduction with the new 200% Sheen proc (some kind of 'true damage crit' which works with Corki's passive), but wouldn't IE hit even harder? Or is this some setup for the following BotrK that profits from the additional penetration?

But then again, why not go Zerkes when you focus on your AAs + penetration combination? I see the benefit of Sorc Boots however, but they are probably best bought pretty early in the game.

Questions over questions, please help, thanks in advance.

IE costs a full 1500 more than LW, so it should hit harder. LW/sorcs is probably for snowballing/extending the midgame power jump of triforce. The triforce with sorcs build is not about focusing on your AA's, it's about focusing on the triforce procs (a bunch of AD that doesn't benefit from crit/AS) which come from spellcasting (hence sorcs).

The triforce playstyle involves kiting in between rocket+procs, so AS is less important (because you are still limited by the internal tf cooldown). BoRK is probably to make it easier to kite, rather than increasing AA dps.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-09 04:55:25
September 09 2013 04:53 GMT
#138
Idk anything about the math on it because I don't care but dual pen triforce -> LW with sorc is really fun and feels strong.

Also instead of crit masteries I'm taking dual pen masteries
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
September 11 2013 00:04 GMT
#139
On September 09 2013 13:53 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Idk anything about the math on it because I don't care but dual pen triforce -> LW with sorc is really fun and feels strong.

Also instead of crit masteries I'm taking dual pen masteries


Can confirm, dual pen is sick. End of game damage was around 11k, 5.5k magic/5.5k physical.
@miicah88
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
September 15 2013 08:55 GMT
#140
Corki is amazing right now, shortly put.

AD carry build = trinity sorcs bt lw ie ga
AP carry build = athenes guise sorcs liandries rylais void (lich/hourglass)

Play him. love him. get on the roflcopter freelo flight.
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