EPT[Champion] Warwick - Page 12
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koreasilver
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anmolsinghmzn2009
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Mogwai
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BlackMagister
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Also any tips on playing lanewick vs heavy harass champs like Riven. I build tanky just to be able to last hit in lane without dying and then can get off good ganks on the enemy with my jungler when I hit 6, but I feel I have so little pushing power that the enemy champ can just roam and kill everyone else. | ||
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broz0rs
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http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1819271 | ||
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TheTurk
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
I think we might just have been too behind. I was top lane Warwick. Mercs, Randuins, Frozen Heart, Wit's, Phage (finished Trinity at the end but game was pretty much done). | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
After you have Mallet you just run at the Vayne and she needs to run, and then she can QSS it I guess but yeah the randuins should let you still tag her at least once and after that she can't run, you can also zone her with brushes as she can't face check and this way you can take her completely out of the fight which pretty much makes you do your job. However it should be possible to chase her even without using your ulti because Randuin proc lets you catch up and especially if you have oracle eventually the slows might force her to use QSS after which you can ulti. Either way if you just chase her around without letting her participate you're giving your team a very significant advantage Storytelling time: On warwick I was soloing top and winning pretty hard, had like 220 minions at 23min and the opponent had like 100 less. I decided to go for Madreds Bloodrazor into Wits end as I was doing so well I figured I could go with some dmg instead of getting a ton of resists early(though those items give some as well). Then soon after a battle occured, I got focused pretty hard and lived with like 200 hp and was running as the enemy Ashe suddenly appears and slows me. I figured I'd ulti her and... The ulti just oneshot her from full. I mean she was 1-3 so wasn't doing that great, had an IE and a Zeal and a Doran Blade, was lvl 12 or 13 I think, but the ulti just literally emptied her HP bar, I was lvl 16. So what is the moral of the story? WW ulti preeetty good! | ||
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Shiv.
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On February 15 2012 16:04 Shikyo wrote: In my opinion you need mallet faster, I'd even go Glacial -> Wits -> Mallet with Phage somewhere in between. How's this fast? Assuming you bought no wards, no pots (lol) and Mercs, that's 1525+2000+1250 gold down the drain, and at this point, why'd you feel the urge to go Mallet? SV/FH are undoubtly better choices, as you have little to no need for the HP, you have inherent chasing power and there's so many better choices. I don't get the idea of spending so much gold on HP when you have your passive which hevily favors resistances, so much gold on chasing power when you have your E. Phage is okay if you decide to go Triforce from there on, but Mallet is utter garbage in my opinion. Chasing Vayne is possible with the help of your team in a teamfight, because if you don't focus her, something's wrong anyway. Also, congratulations on having a 90% last hitting rate. At 23 minutes, 39 waves will have spawned, every 3rd wave will have a siege minion, so at the 23 minute mark, 247 minions will have spawned in your lane. Pretty sure it's really hard to farm that well on WW. Good job. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Normally those items are finished at like 17min so you're asking why at that point I'd feel like getting Mallet? Because I want the health and want to chase people | ||
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Shiv.
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On February 15 2012 20:03 Shikyo wrote: The "inherent chasing power" is actually quite poop and Mallet's totally amazing, and I think SaintVicious goes almost the exact same build so it can't be that bad Normally those items are finished at like 17min so you're asking why at that point I'd feel like getting Mallet? Because I want the health and want to chase people Saintvicious jungles Warwick, that's a whole different story. He does not have access to the amounts of farm Lanewick and hence approaches his build completely differently. That being said, you essentially render your E useless in a 1v1 scenario when buying Mallet. If you want to chase people so badly, why not just go Triforce which I'm pretty sure gives similar EH with the AS and much, much more DPS? Besides, I don't see how you consider his chasing power to be poop. I totally don't get why you'd get it over Phage&SV which costs practically the same, gives similar amounts of health, increases your EHP more than Mallet does, and, unlike Mallet, actually improves your DPS and teamfighting power by a measurable margin. | ||
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Slayer91
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Craton
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anmolsinghmzn2009
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Shikyo
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On February 15 2012 20:31 Slayer91 wrote: Mallet just feels WRONG on warwick. Eugh. I guess it makes some sense because of the slow and your E giving speed but eugh. I'd rather just go all like "red buff or afk bro" to their ranged AD. Those fuckers don't need that shit anyway. Well I dunno, I don't have the highest amount of experience but with Mallet I just feel like I get a single hit on anyone and they're guaranteed to be dead(as it slows for your team too as tank WW really doesn't deal a billion dmg all by himself) whereas with your passive you're basically hitting for like 80 dmg every second or two as they run away at their full speed and usually you can't catch them unless you got ulti up or they are like 1 Q from death... I don't know, I haven't played him a ton but I've experimented both ways and I've noticed that with Frozen Mallet I just immediately feel FAR stronger and the 1 hit -> guaranteed kill effect really feels like it really is there. It just feels like without the item I spend most of my time running around instead of killing stuff, I dunno. It works really well at least for me personally. It's not even that late if you get it after philo + wits + glacial, should be done at least before 30min, probably before 25 with phage way earlier. Frozen Mallet isn't really necessary in the toplane but when you start getting into the teamfights I just feel like it is incredibly beneficial for him. About sitting on Phage, I've tried that as well and it's a total lottery, I don't really like it that much. And as my build ends up having like 300+ armor and 150+ mres the HP scales quite well with the resistances, in fact. However I really would like to emphasize again how insane his ulti is against targets with little to no magic resist, it's nearly guaranteed of getting a squishy even from full into the E-chasing range, after which they're out of the battle. It feels like it deals a ton more damage than before, I guess the passive buff really had an effect. | ||
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Slayer91
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
Edit: Yes he's playing top and the game right now he is laning vs a mundo for reference. | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
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Shiv.
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On February 17 2012 00:37 mordek wrote: If you're playing WW top, when do you get a wriggle's and when don't you. Most tops I get wriggle's regardless but I see saint skipping and going straight to wit's end. Edit: Yes he's playing top and the game right now he is laning vs a mundo for reference. I never get it. You don't need the sustain, and your pushing will suck regardless. There's better items to spend 1600 on, e.g. Glacial. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On February 17 2012 05:30 Shiv. wrote: I never get it. You don't need the sustain, and your pushing will suck regardless. There's better items to spend 1600 on, e.g. Glacial. Pretty much this. You play LaneWick as an unmovable object top lane. You can stand in lane all day. Q the enemy champ and auto to heal. Even with Wriggle's, you're still auto'ing to push. Some Madred's procs isn't going to save your already terrible wave clearing ability. Life-steal is moot. You can buy your own wards. | ||
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