EPTNot sure what Riot did to the latest patch but LoL Replays fucks up at loading screen.
[Champion] Orianna - Page 4
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Not sure what Riot did to the latest patch but LoL Replays fucks up at loading screen. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On July 31 2011 06:00 NeoIllusions wrote: Replays from previous patches are fubar'ed. They don't work. Replays recorded on this current patch will still work. Not sure what Riot did to the latest patch but LoL Replays fucks up at loading screen. Riot won't bother keeping the game compatible with a 3rd party replay program when they are working on their own replay system. Small unrelated changes to the LoL executable can change the memory layout of the game and mess up some hooks LoLreplay uses etc. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
his range is similar to mine, but its instant dmg and no delayed skillshot, last game he forced me to back 2 times. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
a) Punish them lasthitting with autoattacks with QW combos. b) Learn to read when they're about to attack you. Ideal case they move close for the skillshot, you QW them to force the decision between ignoring it and trading blows (they lose) or going back and trying to dodge your Q (they lose 50% of the time). Basicly you're vulnerable whenever you missed a Q, your ball is too far from them or, worst case, you missed a W. Ideal case you QW them and retreat from their skillshot cause of the slow. | ||
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Lanzoma
Mexico813 Posts
On August 01 2011 03:13 LaNague wrote: how do i lane her vs ryze? his range is similar to mine, but its instant dmg and no delayed skillshot, last game he forced me to back 2 times. Mid or top? Ryze's skills are around 675~ iirc, vs your 1k~ range. If you're mid, there's no way he should be able to deny or fight you unless you let him. If top, the moment he controls bush he'll zone you, so make sure you don't push the lane. Don't even try to auto him or you'll eat a spell rotation. | ||
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nesteaplunger
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RouaF
France4120 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
tbh, even though she get's banned frequently around my elo (EU West, 1700ish), the people who do actually play her suck pretty bad. I keep counterpicking her with mostly Malz and Annie and it works quite well for me. | ||
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
On August 04 2011 22:08 r.Evo wrote: She was OP from the very release, just she requires some more finesse than most other AP casters to really shine, that's why she was under the rader for such a long time (unless you count like jiji who went something retarded like 30-2 in the first 2 weeks with her). tbh, even though she get's banned frequently around my elo (EU West, 1700ish), the people who do actually play her suck pretty bad. I keep counterpicking her with mostly Malz and Annie and it works quite well for me. Annie is less a counterpick than an incredibly strong burst trader, which works against 90% of the heros in this game. I can't pick orianna much in ranked these days since I'm still working my way out of scrub land ~1200, and idiots fp stuff like sivir and veigar in my games. Still real hero, one of the hugest bursts in the game, especially considering a lot of it is AoE like annie instead of single target like malz. | ||
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Seiuchi
United States931 Posts
On August 04 2011 22:08 r.Evo wrote: She was OP from the very release, just she requires some more finesse than most other AP casters to really shine, that's why she was under the rader for such a long time (unless you count like jiji who went something retarded like 30-2 in the first 2 weeks with her). tbh, even though she get's banned frequently around my elo (EU West, 1700ish), the people who do actually play her suck pretty bad. I keep counterpicking her with mostly Malz and Annie and it works quite well for me. I don't see how Malz works as a counterpick unless the Ori's just bad at playing her, I've never had a problem beating him with poke. Annie's a more equal interaction, but really the best mage to pick against her is Brand since he has a ton of range as well. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
Stuff I see most Oriannas fail at around my level: -Bad usage of Q. e.g. they move the ball to a bad position, get zoned while Q is on CD, then reposition it again to a totally predicable position 'cause they panic a little and boom - you suddenly got lane control. (that's where Malz actually shines more than Annie cause of the threat of QE and better mana-management than Annie) -They don't abuse autoattacks. -They try to QW offensively when they'd be much better off to simply counter harass with their combo (e.g. QW when Malz moves up to E) -They allow themselves to run oom without having the lane pushed and going b. I see them quite often oom when the lane is in the middle, then they somehow refuse to b till their jungle shows up and just get wtfpwnd in the meantime. Actually I think it all comes down to bad ball-control and therefore premature ejaculation(lawl). They're too eager to get that QW combo in and forget that they're the most pathetic and helpless AP carry ever when it's on cooldown. The second they become predictive with their Q you can just dodge it and rape em. | ||
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
I used to do mana stone 2 pots into cata then RoA, but I'm tempted to try the boots 3 pots into double dorans rings straight to Rabadon. Wouldn't you run oom quite fast with a boots opening? Even zoning only with Q, I'm quite short on mana early with my mana stone :/ Thx for the feedback! | ||
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arthur
United Kingdom488 Posts
On September 03 2011 20:33 mr_tolkien wrote: Hi guys! I was wondering, what's you favorite opening with Ori? I used to do mana stone 2 pots into cata then RoA, but I'm tempted to try the boots 3 pots into double dorans rings straight to Rabadon. Wouldn't you run oom quite fast with a boots opening? Even zoning only with Q, I'm quite short on mana early with my mana stone :/ Thx for the feedback! As great as she is at zoning, I usually only last hit until about levels 5-7, at which point I procede to zone/harrass/kill, recall, buy catalyst and come back to mid and then with catalyst you can really zone and control mid. But thats just me. I also start with mana crystal 75% of the time (and shoes the other 25%). The utility from E/W is usually good enough to not need boots. Looking after your mana pool is really important with Orianna though... Also, this is just me personally. :-) I don't really like dorans rings... Annie/anivia/orianna I go catalyst. Brand i go dorans into rabadons.. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
Most of the time it's boots +3 into cata though. Her autoattacks are STRONG during lanephase, abuse them. | ||
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
Something like this: Rod of Ages Sorcerer's Shoes Nashor's Tooth Malady Rylai's Crystal Scepter Rabadon's Deathcap 9/21/0 Generic caster runes(AP,MP,MR) | ||
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Thereisnosaurus
Australia1822 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On September 03 2011 20:33 mr_tolkien wrote: Hi guys! I was wondering, what's you favorite opening with Ori? I used to do mana stone 2 pots into cata then RoA, but I'm tempted to try the boots 3 pots into double dorans rings straight to Rabadon. Wouldn't you run oom quite fast with a boots opening? Even zoning only with Q, I'm quite short on mana early with my mana stone :/ Thx for the feedback! Opening Crystal means you get crushed by any strong AP mid starting with boots. Stuff like Annie/Ryze/Malz and even Brand can zone you to hell and back. Don't do it. (I'm experimenting with MS quints atm and I like them a lot. Can see Dring/Crystal opening working with those.) If you have trouble running oom with the DRing/Cap stuff, spam less. It's that simple. If you didn't make the enemy lose cs/harass him with a spell, the spell was wrong in the first place. Farm with autos, not with spells unless you're forced to. On September 03 2011 22:46 arthur wrote: As great as she is at zoning, I usually only last hit until about levels 5-7, at which point I procede to zone/harrass/kill, recall, buy catalyst and come back to mid and then with catalyst you can really zone and control mid. But thats just me. I also start with mana crystal 75% of the time (and shoes the other 25%). The utility from E/W is usually good enough to not need boots. Looking after your mana pool is really important with Orianna though... Also, this is just me personally. :-) I don't really like dorans rings... Annie/anivia/orianna I go catalyst. Brand i go dorans into rabadons.. You get DRings -> Cap whenever you can get away with it in lane. It's the strongest way to maximize your midgame damage. You get Catalyst vs people who can instagib you (e.g. Annie) or when you're really having trouble in lane (aka need the healthproc to catch up). Once again, boots or not is depending on your/the enemies runes (MS quints?) and starting items. If I e.g. see someone starting Dring I'd rather get a Crystal and aim for Cata since I won't need my own boots. Boot start on Orianna is mostly to defend against boot openings, not so much to punish non-boot openings. On September 04 2011 00:10 daemir wrote: If I lane against something that could give me trouble like Brand, I'll open chalice into dorans or 2 unless I get early kills, then I just go for early cata. Most of the time it's boots +3 into cata though. Her autoattacks are STRONG during lanephase, abuse them. The only reason to ever get chalice is if you a) get harassed a lot and b) need your mana badly to hold lane. If those two come together you're doing it wrong. If you have manatrouble catalyst or Dring stack help more. You don't get any sustain from Chalice unlike someone who's WW or Irelia, nor do you synergize with the stats like Galio. tl;dr: Chalice is bad, mhmkay? On September 21 2011 19:14 Novalisk wrote: Since there's a free week of Orianna, I've played with her a bit and got to thinking. Why are there no proper AP/AS builds up on Leaguecraft? The passive seems to be so good for that. Something like this: Rod of Ages Sorcerer's Shoes Nashor's Tooth Malady Rylai's Crystal Scepter Rabadon's Deathcap 9/21/0 Generic caster runes(AP,MP,MR) Which autoattacking steroids do you plan on using? Oh, your passive? Play vayne or kog. Orianna as a ranged carry does nothing what a "real" ranged carry can't do. In fact, it's so bad that not even the newbs on Leagucraft try to make guides for it. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 22 2011 02:34 r.Evo wrote: You get DRings -> Cap whenever you can get away with it in lane. It's the strongest way to maximize your midgame damage. You get Catalyst vs people who can instagib you (e.g. Annie) or when you're really having trouble in lane (aka need the healthproc to catch up). I know I'm sort of late to the party on the Rod vs. DRing stack discussion but... Honestly, I feel like getting Rod of Ages is the AP equivalent of going Warmogs->Atmas. You sacrifice having midgame damage, and try to ride your high base damage/utility until you have your Deathcap, at which point you make up your weaker midgame presence through the sheer cost-efficiency of fully charged Rod + Deathcap. It's situational but when you can reliably expect to finish Rod and get to DCap fast enough without giving up too much in the midgame, I think Rod is the right choice. On September 22 2011 02:34 r.Evo wrote: Which autoattacking steroids do you plan on using? Oh, your passive? Play vayne or kog. Orianna as a ranged carry does nothing what a "real" ranged carry can't do. In fact, it's so bad that not even the newbs on Leagucraft try to make guides for it. It's even worse now that her AA range got nerfed to 500. | ||
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
On September 22 2011 02:51 TheYango wrote: It's even worse now that her AA range got nerfed to 500. I wasn't thinking of being a ranged carry or anything, just adding Nashor's and Malady to make good use of her passive, while still having good survivability and nuking. Nashor's is a good caster item anyway, and Malady is a relatively cheap item which has perfect synergy with her passive. | ||
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