You only have trouble charging your tear at first, but as soon as you get some more mana it helps charging itself. Considering the cooldown changes it's not like you have to spam a bunch to charge a lot of mana anyway (longer cd, aa gives more mana per proc).

ZataN

New Zealand414 Posts

September 02 2013 04:48 GMT

#222

On August 31 2013 03:21 Ryuu314 wrote:
If you're ever in a hard lane with Ori, just get a few extra early levels of E. E gives passive armor/mr stats when the ball is on you as well as the shield so it's helpful for letting you live. Staying alive>getting more levels of W.

Is it worth it though? I spendthe majority of the time without the ball on me, using it to zone, sitting it in side bush ala ward, csing etc.

AsianEcksDragon

United States1036 Posts

September 03 2013 05:20 GMT

#223

On September 02 2013 13:48 ZataN wrote:

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Is it worth it though? I spendthe majority of the time without the ball on me, using it to zone, sitting it in side bush ala ward, csing etc.

Depends on how much upfront damage your opponent has. If it's Zed then you can afford to do it because his death mark doesn't trigger right away. Against someone like Diana or Talon, you want that ball on your at all time because they will be jumping through your ball and will try to kill you while your q is on CD. Talon also has a silence so you wont get a chance to apply your shield and armor through the majority of his damage. Just zone them with your autoattack and Alt + E as soon as they Q or jump on you.

InfSunday

United States735 Posts

September 04 2013 15:57 GMT

#224

So, I played a game with an Orianna mid whose first big items were Void Staff and Liandry's, relying only on a chalice and blue buff for mana regen basically the whole game (she built hat next, and of course she had her sorcerer's shoes). How optimal is this build? At first it seemed really strange to me, but apparently I haven't played Ori enough because she was insta-killing anyone without MR in the mid-late game. I forget who she laned against, but it was some normal AP carry like Ahri or Lux.

I normally build Athene's --> hat first, is the difference in build just preference? Seeing this just intrigued me and I'm wondering how good staff/mask first is.

Nos-

Canada12016 Posts

September 04 2013 16:06 GMT

#225

Orianna's base damage isn't all that high to warrant a straight penetration build. Haunting Guise maybe, I've seen it in Korean games (Gankedbymom notably) but have yet to test it myself. The liandry's I don't particularly agree with, also if she loses her blue buff (enemy counterjungling) or gets heavily dived by someone with a visage + hp items this build will be kind of shitty.

ZataN

New Zealand414 Posts

September 04 2013 22:04 GMT

#226

On September 05 2013 00:57 InfSunday wrote:
So, I played a game with an Orianna mid whose first big items were Void Staff and Liandry's, relying only on a chalice and blue buff for mana regen basically the whole game (she built hat next, and of course she had her sorcerer's shoes). How optimal is this build? At first it seemed really strange to me, but apparently I haven't played Ori enough because she was insta-killing anyone without MR in the mid-late game. I forget who she laned against, but it was some normal AP carry like Ahri or Lux.

I normally build Athene's --> hat first, is the difference in build just preference? Seeing this just intrigued me and I'm wondering how good staff/mask first is.

I have been feeling like you don't need to rush CDR with max Q you can throw your ball around like every 3 seconds anyway. vs AP in think go chalice > deathcap or zhonyas > haunting guise (or haunting guise first), and vs AD replace chalice with tear and get a quick seekers.

Getting a big ap item after chalice/tear makes sense to me if you are farming well/not dieing, big increase to damage and your shield benefits from the AP. if im not doing so well in lane ill get haunting guise before finishing deathcap or zhonyas.

voidstaff after that IMO

imBLIND

United States2626 Posts

September 04 2013 23:25 GMT

#227

best way: athenes rush > dcap
against a dive heavy team: Tear > zhonyas> maybe guise> whatever
against difficult lane that is not AD: chalice>guise>whatever

guise is bought for the health. Void staff is a poor man's dcap.

Nos-

Canada12016 Posts

September 04 2013 23:42 GMT

#228

or you can go the GBM and go chalice -> guise -> athenes -> rylais. Makes for a tanky ori

FinestHour

United States18466 Posts

September 15 2013 04:34 GMT

#229

whats the build most commonly used in competitive games
is gbm some pro

Anakko

France1934 Posts

September 15 2013 04:39 GMT

#230

GBM is CJ Frost new mid laner. He takes pride in his orianna and he showed strong play with it in OGN.

Nos-

Canada12016 Posts

September 15 2013 05:46 GMT

#231

I don't particularly agree with GBM's build but he makes a tanky ori with a lot of utility with the rylai slow and doesn't suffer too much in the damage department given the double mpen items. He's also on Frost so he's gotta be doing something right.

The most common ori build is chalice into Athenes and then situational items like cap/hourglass/what have you. The cdr and mana regen on Athenes is really a little too good to pass up for someone like Orianna

imBLIND

United States2626 Posts

September 15 2013 07:42 GMT

#232

GBM likes to power spike ori with double dorans into chalice, fast sorc boots before chalice, or guise after chalice, whereas most ori's will just rush straight to athenes with boots. Depending on the situation, he will usually delay his athenes for like 5-10 minutes just to ensure he is winning his lane and that he is a major contributor in the teamfights and decide whether or not his team needs a tanky utility mid or a DPS mid. Athene stats are awesome, but it doesn't snowball orianna at higher levels.

AsianEcksDragon

United States1036 Posts

November 21 2013 22:22 GMT

#233

Orianna is a beast in lane with the new masteries:
http://preseason.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/masteries.html#74d1rArN.16jfKXd00.1zuf0.0

Combine this masteries setup with MS quints and hybrid pen marks and you outdamage and outmobility most champs in lane.

InfSunday

United States735 Posts

November 28 2013 16:47 GMT

#234

On November 22 2013 07:22 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
Orianna is a beast in lane with the new masteries:
http://preseason.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/masteries.html#74d1rArN.16jfKXd00.1zuf0.0

Combine this masteries setup with MS quints and hybrid pen marks and you outdamage and outmobility most champs in lane.

Haven't tried the runes but I can attest to using these masteries. It's obnoxious how much damage you do to people if you autoattack a lot in lane, I don't know how but Orianna has become an even bigger lane bully in the preseason. Plus with the shield/passive armor and magic resist when the ball is on you during trades it feels like you don't lose much from not having anything in the defense tree.

I've started picking her up again in Gold II and have been doing extremely well against everyone I play. /brag

Zhiroo

Kosovo2724 Posts

November 28 2013 17:07 GMT

#235

Anyone tried her as support? Orianna is my favorite mid laner but mid lane is my least favorite so I was wondering if she'd work as support with the new gold income.

Zanno

United States1484 Posts

November 28 2013 18:17 GMT

#236

On November 29 2013 02:07 Zhiroo wrote:
Anyone tried her as support? Orianna is my favorite mid laner but mid lane is my least favorite so I was wondering if she'd work as support with the new gold income.

i did

i feel like it would have worked better if i played orianna on the regular

the main problem i had is she is really mana limited without blue so you have to get the coin instead of the spell thing or traditional supports will just outpoke you