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bosiddon
Profile Joined September 2010
308 Posts
November 12 2011 11:47 GMT
#481
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the real jarizard
2035
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 15:35:47
November 12 2011 15:35 GMT
#482
On November 01 2011 02:09 Mogwai wrote:
I mean, 25 + 23 + 35 + 18 + 8 = 109 AD. That's a lot, and everything other than Brutalizer gives you survivability too, so you're just like, a perfect storm of balanced stats @ < 10K gold, which lets you give up farm to your Kog a lot sooner than something like Force of Atmog's which will take 10K just to finish 3 items with boots.


So would you use that build for both support Jarman *and* solo Jarman? Jungle Jarman? i.e. I can't tell if troll. :3
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 05:48:10
November 14 2011 05:47 GMT
#483
On November 13 2011 00:35 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 02:09 Mogwai wrote:
I mean, 25 + 23 + 35 + 18 + 8 = 109 AD. That's a lot, and everything other than Brutalizer gives you survivability too, so you're just like, a perfect storm of balanced stats @ < 10K gold, which lets you give up farm to your Kog a lot sooner than something like Force of Atmog's which will take 10K just to finish 3 items with boots.


So would you use that build for both support Jarman *and* solo Jarman? Jungle Jarman? i.e. I can't tell if troll. :3

it's good on solo and out of the jungle. support jarman uhh, I guess it would work? I like philo + wriggle's -> aegis on support jarman, you usually don't get much further than than, but if you do, it's usually a specialized defensive item vs. whatever type of damage they're mostly dishing out.




On November 12 2011 20:47 bosiddon wrote:
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the real jarizard

you have 2.5 items that aren't fire colored (triforce is pushing it). you clearly don't get the game.
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Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
December 01 2011 02:16 GMT
#484
Hey mogwai, with these new masteries, do you still run 21 in defense?
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
December 01 2011 13:07 GMT
#485
I've been running 21/0/9. It hurts a lot but, im no mogwai. Im interested on what he has to say.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 01 2011 18:42 GMT
#486
I've been running 21 offensive for like 2 months now.
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Fayfay
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden128 Posts
December 10 2011 12:42 GMT
#487
How do you start with 21/9/0 in the jungle? What item(s), route and so? I seem to get so insanely low with all but cloth+5 if I go 21/9/0, and it feels overly risky.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
December 12 2011 00:13 GMT
#488
On December 10 2011 21:42 Fayfay wrote:
How do you start with 21/9/0 in the jungle? What item(s), route and so? I seem to get so insanely low with all but cloth+5 if I go 21/9/0, and it feels overly risky.

I just did jungle jarvan for the first time with my rammus masteries. I had a really nice pull at wolves and blue though. cloth+5 hp pot. Even went mid to gank. I used my jungle udyr runes as reds, armor yellow and blue, hp quints. Since his E gives attack speed and armor I'm thinking AD runes would be better. He's a powerful fucking jungler, especially after you get wriggles.
Cytokinesis
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada330 Posts
December 12 2011 01:33 GMT
#489
Jarvan is one of my favorite junglers, if not my favorite. In the new jungle I always start boots+3, just like nunu. I have a 100% win rate with jungle jarvan at ~1900 ELO. I use my nocturne/shaco/trundle runes which is +9.6 dmg, 10 arp, 5.7% aspd and 13 armor. If I'm against a more tanky team comp I use my skarner runes, 14%aspd and 12arp. Almost always go 21/9/0.

I find cloth+5 i entirely unnecessary for almost all of the junglers now, so boots makes Jarvan's early ganks fucking ridiculous. I have yet to play a game as Jungle Jarvan where I don't get fb for my team.

If i was to make a really specific Jarvan page it would be ad quints, 12 armor pen from reds, rest of red slots as armor runes, armor yellows and flat mr blues.

I go wriggles into aegis 95% of the time. Then trinity atmas. Aegis so sooooooo good and makes you really fucking tanky.
Ive seen people who dont believe in sleep count sheep with calculators that double as alarm clocks
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 13 2011 10:05 GMT
#490
How do you guys deal with the constant running out of mana on J4? I have a really hard time ganking without blue buff. Am I running 21/0/9 for the mana regen and buff duration? I think I might have just mis-masteried it.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 13 2011 15:09 GMT
#491
When I jungle jarman now, I go 21/0/9, ArPen Reds, Armor Seals, MRes/Level Glyphs, Armor Quints, open regrowth -> philo -> hog -> wriggle's.

I love the mana masteries, pretty much always get them on mana users.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 20 2011 20:19 GMT
#492
Guide updated. Still need to update the jungling guide, I'll do so when I have some more time.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
December 20 2011 20:58 GMT
#493
<3 Smash. This guide is so thorough.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 20 2011 21:11 GMT
#494
Jungling guide also added.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
December 21 2011 01:31 GMT
#495
Nice choice of items in the jungling section. It works really fantastic. You don't feel like sometimes you lack abit of mres though?
hi
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
December 21 2011 12:45 GMT
#496
Nice guide, very helpful, thanks!
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 22 2011 18:24 GMT
#497
On December 21 2011 10:31 Sponkz wrote:
Nice choice of items in the jungling section. It works really fantastic. You don't feel like sometimes you lack abit of mres though?

If I do, I'll get banshee's or FoN in place of Randuins (which is talked about in the guide), but I usually feel ok with just mercs + aegis tbh.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 05 2012 07:35 GMT
#498
jarman pretty strong in the new jungle. I've been doing very well with jungle jarman recently.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 19:13:57
January 05 2012 19:11 GMT
#499
Do you take the second blue? On pretty much every other jungler I can afford to give it up, but I run oom on Jarvan instantly without it. How top-level Jarvan's manage their mana always intrigued me.

EDIT: I don't run armor quints so I ran 21/9/0, and that's a big reason why, but I'm not sure 21/0/9 with AD quints work. If I'm not high enough health to gank I just feel I waste his strong early game gank potential.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 05 2012 19:33 GMT
#500
On January 06 2012 04:11 Sandster wrote:
Do you take the second blue? On pretty much every other jungler I can afford to give it up, but I run oom on Jarvan instantly without it. How top-level Jarvan's manage their mana always intrigued me.

EDIT: I don't run armor quints so I ran 21/9/0, and that's a big reason why, but I'm not sure 21/0/9 with AD quints work. If I'm not high enough health to gank I just feel I waste his strong early game gank potential.

21/0/9 with AD quints works, I do it pretty much every game now. get blue, look for early gank to let your regrowth put in work, then back to jungle. If you're still trying to do full clear -> gank nowadays, you're doing it wrong IMO.
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