EPT"Hmm, can I tower dive into their whole team?"
*glance at ulti then proceed to dive whole team, killing three of them.*
He doesn't even really require that good gear. Basically get crit, win.
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
"Hmm, can I tower dive into their whole team?" *glance at ulti then proceed to dive whole team, killing three of them.* He doesn't even really require that good gear. Basically get crit, win. | ||
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Khul Sadukar
Australia1735 Posts
I've been jungling with him since the rework and my games are either complete stomps or total disasters. Usually its the latter though and I struggle to turn games around when their all fed. Also ignite sux but i'll try getting QSS next time. | ||
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Ian Ian Ian
915 Posts
It is so frusterating to die when you KNOW that you hit your ult easily a second before And canada you couldnt be more wrong. As soon as you play someone good.. tryn is almost impossible. He is so easy to kite, and has such a shit early game.. | ||
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BouBou.865
Netherlands814 Posts
On October 09 2011 01:45 Ian Ian Ian wrote: Anyone find tryns ult has ridiculous lag on it lately? It is so frusterating to die when you KNOW that you hit your ult easily a second before And canada you couldnt be more wrong. As soon as you play someone good.. tryn is almost impossible. He is so easy to kite, and has such a shit early game.. MegaZero plays Trynda solo top a lot and he crushes people like Pobelter. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On October 09 2011 03:09 BouBou.865 wrote: MegaZero plays Trynda solo top a lot and he crushes people like Pobelter. Gotta open top w/ vamp scepter for sustainability | ||
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Ian Ian Ian
915 Posts
On October 09 2011 03:09 BouBou.865 wrote: MegaZero plays Trynda solo top a lot and he crushes people like Pobelter. Actually I've tried tryn top a couple times and wrecked ALOT of people. They pick the typical "op" top lane hero and get wrecked by the 40% crit chance. Full rage bar is such a huge thing early game. | ||
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Vic.nQQ
Bulgaria88 Posts
I have only played him a few times solo top in ranked (~1600 elo), and so far have mixed feelings. Theorycraft wise he is an extremely good late game champion, so whenever you lane solo, the main goal should be to farm, knowing that even if you get equal farm with your opponent, you will be stronger the longer the game gets. The main thing about the early game imo is good execution of his basic harass combo - charge up rage to almost max -> make sure that the enemy minion wave isn't too big -> spin in, start hitting enemy champion and see how he reacts, if he runs away mocking shout and continue hitting him with full rage, when it's about to end go back and Q up to heal; if he tries to fight you head on, save your mocking shout for after a couple of hits and estimate how the tradeoff is going - if you hit him harder, keep the shout; if he is hitting you harder, use the shout anyway, applying only the attack dmg debuff and be ready to back off after a couple more hits. Considering that trynd's resource is "infinite", often the lane success depends on how well and how often can you execute the harass I pointed out above. About the runes - I didn't read the whole thread, so maybe there are better suggestions than OP, but I disagree with his AP stacking. Considering how trynd is likely going to be a diver type champon when the team fights occur, meaning he won't be attacking high armor targets, getting him as much base armor penetration as possible is very important. It's also not like the armor penetration won't help you in the laning phase, because it makes your early pokes that much stronger. | ||
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Ian Ian Ian
915 Posts
On October 18 2011 15:23 Vic.nQQ wrote: I think that like many other solo tops he just isn't.. "solid". Against some champions he will be very strong, against others he will barely be able to farm, basically turning him into a situational pick. I have only played him a few times solo top in ranked (~1600 elo), and so far have mixed feelings. Theorycraft wise he is an extremely good late game champion, so whenever you lane solo, the main goal should be to farm, knowing that even if you get equal farm with your opponent, you will be stronger the longer the game gets. The main thing about the early game imo is good execution of his basic harass combo - charge up rage to almost max -> make sure that the enemy minion wave isn't too big -> spin in, start hitting enemy champion and see how he reacts, if he runs away mocking shout and continue hitting him with full rage, when it's about to end go back and Q up to heal; if he tries to fight you head on, save your mocking shout for after a couple of hits and estimate how the tradeoff is going - if you hit him harder, keep the shout; if he is hitting you harder, use the shout anyway, applying only the attack dmg debuff and be ready to back off after a couple more hits. Considering that trynd's resource is "infinite", often the lane success depends on how well and how often can you execute the harass I pointed out above. About the runes - I didn't read the whole thread, so maybe there are better suggestions than OP, but I disagree with his AP stacking. Considering how trynd is likely going to be a diver type champon when the team fights occur, meaning he won't be attacking high armor targets, getting him as much base armor penetration as possible is very important. It's also not like the armor penetration won't help you in the laning phase, because it makes your early pokes that much stronger. I think one of my favourite things about soloing top is that I don't have to take flash..I usually run exhaust/ignite making my early fights so much more dangerous. There aren't many characters that can outsustain him I find | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On November 23 2011 19:19 zulu_nation8 wrote: so apparently trynd has maybe less than 2-3 hard counters? What do I pick if opponent picks trynd? not necessarily in lane but later in the game ryze is brutal against trynd, stops him from getting to anyone and prevents him from escaping if he tries to dive with ult | ||
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necrosed
Brazil885 Posts
You can also blind him when he tries to last hit for quicks and extra rage, but that'll take your mana fast. As Teemo, just don't be too much agressive and it should be an easy lane. Watch out for those jungle ganks and you should be able to supress Trynd. | ||
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Lanzoma
Mexico813 Posts
On November 23 2011 20:43 necrosed wrote: Teemo with Exhaust makes a very sad Tryndamere. You poke him with poison when he tries to last hit creeps, blind him when he gets close to hit you and quick move to safety after the blind ends. You can also blind him when he tries to last hit for quicks and extra rage, but that'll take your mana fast. As Teemo, just don't be too much agressive and it should be an easy lane. Watch out for those jungle ganks and you should be able to supress Trynd. Agree with everything here except the "don't be too aggressive" part. Don't ever let him get close to creeps without eating a handful of autos, constantly zone him and deny him exp / cs. Obviously don't open yourself to easy ganks, but if you can keep trynd constantly low hp, there's no way you can get ganked before 6 without killing Trynd and possibly getting a double kill. Like, there's absolutely nothing Trynd can do vs Teemo other than going all-in, which is not going to work for him unless he has better items. This guide has a lane matchups section | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
edit- someone in spudparty says yes, it does. interesting | ||
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Lanzoma
Mexico813 Posts
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Tryndamere Btw, you're breaking rule #1 | ||
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Holykitty
Netherlands246 Posts
On November 23 2011 20:43 necrosed wrote: Teemo with Exhaust makes a very sad Tryndamere. You poke him with poison when he tries to last hit creeps, blind him when he gets close to hit you and quick move to safety after the blind ends. You can also blind him when he tries to last hit for quicks and extra rage, but that'll take your mana fast. As Teemo, just don't be too much agressive and it should be an easy lane. Watch out for those jungle ganks and you should be able to supress Trynd. unless poison makes shout miss i dont see how teemo can do much to trynd? super early levels you will need some pots to just farm up then whenever you want just dive into his face and kill him. after lvl 6 he cant hurt you at all | ||
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Lanzoma
Mexico813 Posts
On November 24 2011 07:31 Holykitty wrote: unless poison makes shout miss i dont see how teemo can do much to trynd? super early levels you will need some pots to just farm up then whenever you want just dive into his face and kill him. after lvl 6 he cant hurt you at all I take it you've never laned vs Teemo before. You can't "farm up" because you're eating at least 2 autos every time you get close to a creep, and I don't know where you get the idea that Teemo can't hurt you at all when his E does obscene amounts of damage (free BF sword on top of the DoT component). I mean, the question shouldn't be how Teemo can handle Trynd, but how Trynd can handle Teemo at all. | ||
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Holykitty
Netherlands246 Posts
On November 24 2011 07:46 Lanzoma wrote: I take it you've never laned vs Teemo before. You can't "farm up" because you're eating at least 2 autos every time you get close to a creep, and I don't know where you get the idea that Teemo can't hurt you at all when his E does obscene amounts of damage (free BF sword on top of the DoT component). I mean, the question shouldn't be how Teemo can handle Trynd, but how Trynd can handle Teemo at all. but the whole conversation is normally about just surviving as trynd vs teemo, but it doesnt even matter. teemo is so bad late game compared to trynd that it doesnt even matter  your right though, i dont play trynd much. surely you can stack hp/5 runes and survive his early game? | ||
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Wala.Revolution
7582 Posts
Better off going mid and send your mid top. Many traditional mids have good potential vs teemo so if they don't adapt right away you'll do well except getting kills will be harder mid. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On November 24 2011 08:35 Holykitty wrote: but the whole conversation is normally about just surviving as trynd vs teemo, but it doesnt even matter. teemo is so bad late game compared to trynd that it doesnt even matter your right though, i dont play trynd much. surely you can stack hp/5 runes and survive his early game? teemo crushes trynd at every point in the game, so idk what u mean by teemo being bad late game compared to trynd. There is literally nothing you can do vs him, except mybe sneak a cleanse in and hope you can kill him before blinding dart cooldown. | ||
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