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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On March 30 2013 01:04 Ghost-z wrote: Are you using twin shadows before bear stance to help close the gap quickly or between bear stances so you can stick to them? I used it to initiate the encounter. I used it as I entered lanes during the lane phase, then late game I used it to punished wiffed skills and start team fights on my terms. | ||
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Ghost-z
United States1291 Posts
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
So you think 9-12-9 or 0-21-9 is viable? | ||
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Lightswarm
Canada967 Posts
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On March 29 2013 12:07 obesechicken13 wrote: The bear stance buff is pretty good for Udyr. I stopped getting turtle a long time ago so I haven't noticed that change yet. And turtle I never built AP scaling so I usually just ignored the stance until level 16. The distance of the bear stance charge isn't much but for some reason it makes stunning people much easier. what the fuck? | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
I like killing stuff. Never felt like enough damage with turtle second. I don't think there are many champs that have Udyr's single item damage. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On March 30 2013 05:26 obesechicken13 wrote: I like killing stuff. Never felt like enough damage with turtle second. I don't think there are many champs that have Udyr's single item damage. Turtles a free 220 damage shield every.. 6 seconds or less with CDR, aswell as a free 20% lifesteal(or so) why would you not get it? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On March 30 2013 05:26 obesechicken13 wrote: I like killing stuff. Never felt like enough damage with turtle second. I don't think there are many champs that have Udyr's single item damage. You're doing something wrong. Either mechanically, or you expect Udyr to burst as hard as LB when what's monstruous is his sustainability (both damage and tankiness) more than his burst. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On March 30 2013 05:26 obesechicken13 wrote: I like killing stuff. Never felt like enough damage with turtle second. I don't think there are many champs that have Udyr's single item damage. If you really want to max both Q and R, I'd max Q/R over bear, never turtle. Turtle is just ridiculous. With no cdr, level 5 turtle is effectively giving you over 35 hp a second with just the shield alone. | ||
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czylu
477 Posts
On March 30 2013 05:26 obesechicken13 wrote: I like killing stuff. Never felt like enough damage with turtle second. I don't think there are many champs that have Udyr's single item damage. udyr's damage is not item dependant. You will end up doing more damage building pure tank rather then dps stats, since you'll live longer. If you can't survive a 5man focus as udyr(and you won't unless you build tank). you're kinda useless cuz as soon as u hit dps range ur dead. | ||
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Kontossis
Canada256 Posts
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Magus
Canada450 Posts
Also the clearspeed in the jungle alternating between Tiger and Pheonix is just insane. | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Ghost-z
United States1291 Posts
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Arekan
United States248 Posts
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101toss
3232 Posts
On March 30 2013 21:18 Alaric wrote: If you really want a slow just buy phage/triforce, FH > IBG if you want defenses. ewww FH so bad now | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
wat | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On March 31 2013 06:41 Arekan wrote: With the removal of the mana return from turtle, is there a possibility of building tear > manamune as Udyr top? If it procced off the ticks on tiger it might be worth it. I'd say get IBG/FH/TF(one of the three, or TF+FH) cause once youve got mana and the stances costs go down its really not a big deal. Top Udyr def got hit with the no more mana off turtle nerf though. | ||
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greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
and how the hell are you supposed to sustain mana while clearing the jungle? the spirit stone is really poor mana regen and with turtle nerf I just run out of mana the minute I leave the base, glacial solves that somewhat but if I need to spend like 70-105 (that's with maxed stances, mind you) mana on each camp that's just fucking poor and I'd rather go play nasus or something instead. | ||
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