EPT[Champion] Udyr - Page 10
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
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StuffedTurkey
United States859 Posts
On August 21 2011 04:50 arnath wrote: His lane sustain is still super ridiculous and people are too dumb to lane a ranged AD against him. He gets rocked pretty hard by Cait or Vayne. Or Teeeemooooo(Smash's favorite counter to lanudyr) | ||
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zEMPd
Angola259 Posts
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icemanzdoinwork
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 29 2011 14:48 icemanzdoinwork wrote: What kind of rune/masteries set up do I use with Udyr? Jungling and lanning Don't play a lot of Lanedyr, so I can't really answer that, but jungle Udyr it depends on if you're jungling Phoenix or Tiger. Tiger: AD marks/AD quints/dodge (or armor) seals/MR (flat or scaling based on preference) glyphs, 21/0/9 masteries. Phoenix: I've seen 2 setups for this, and I like one better than the other. TheOddOne's setup - Aspd marks + 1 arpen mark/arpen quints (any mix of arpen+aspd marks/quints that gives you 12 arpen and 14% aspd is equivalent)/dodge (or armor) seals/aspd glyphs, 0/9/21 masteries Jatt's setup - Aspd marks/aspd quints/dodge (or armor) seals/MR (flat or scaling based on preference) glyphs, 1/14/15 masteries. Personally, I don't really like Jatt's setup. Running 12 arpen still probably optimizes your jungle speed compared to the attack speed, getting a little bit of lategame MRes doesn't feel like it's playing to Phoenixdyr's strengths (which is his early game speed), and Udyr's jungle isn't fragile enough to need 14 defense at the cost of Presence of the Master. | ||
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
Phoenix and Tiger have decent synergy with each other (both like the benefit given by the active of the other) so you have a good bit of damage potential between the two. While Sheen/Wit's End is all you need for damage and you don't need wriggles if you jungle with phoenix stance so you can get everything quickly enough. The one issue I see is you may be too fragile in the midgame if you forgo too many level of turtle for tiger. That being said you only really need 1 level of tiger at that early stage in the game. | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
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jtype
England2167 Posts
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
I just did Jatt's Udyr jungle build. It's fucking insane. 1/13/16 RWRE R>W>E>Q Quints: ASPD Reds: ASPD Yellows: Armor Blues: MR/Level Cloth+4 pots Yes, get Phoenix first. Tear through the fucking jungle. Against slower junglers, you can clear your entire jungle on the first go (including red), go back, buy boots, and be in time to harrass them off of their red (and steal it if you're lucky). Try it against Nocturne, Amumu, and Lee Sin. You jungle so quickly you don't even need Wriggle's. Rush Merc treads (or tabi), then Wits End. After that, build to order. Randuin's and Reverie are actually both pretty good on Udyr because movement speed is gdlk. | ||
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rob.au
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
That's also why he runs full aspd, for the proc on phoenix and the extra damage from the activation. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
Udyr cannot max out all of his skills. Each skill is capped at level 5, but the max level is 18, therefore at least one of Udyr's skills will be weaker than the others. It is possible to max two abilities, with the other two at level 4 OR three maxed skills with one skill at level 3. | ||
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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crate
United States2474 Posts
(Running 10 arpen/15% aspd in reds + quints, armor yellow, mr/level blue when I tested since that's the closest I have to full aspd reds/quints). You can definitely do it with some more defensive masteries. It's obviously more vulnerable than cloth + pots on the first clear but Udyr is so fast I'm not sure that matters. edit: You can start 0/9/21 cloth + pots with these runes because I can do that with no leash and heal/smite edit2: You can start regrowth going 0/9/21 if you get some damage on Golem. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On September 14 2011 09:44 TheYango wrote: I still don't understand why Jatt doesn't just run 21 utility. Being able to finish out the end of the Utility tree is way better than getting some MR on runes and needing to get defensive masteries to compensate IMO, particularly given that the first 3 items he's buying are Mercs, Wit's End, and Aegis--he's absolutely not lacking in MR. You can't get a dodge proc with 1/8/21 and the real utility is from nimbleness proc lol | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
On September 14 2011 15:04 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: You can't get a dodge proc with 1/8/21 and the real utility is from nimbleness proc lol Why not just go 0/9/21 then? | ||
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On September 14 2011 15:18 dnastyx wrote: because dat smite cd 15% of 75 > 5. | ||
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