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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 26 2012 16:01 GMT
#161
On July 27 2012 00:59 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 00:56 Sufficiency wrote:
On July 27 2012 00:55 101toss wrote:
Ok, so MBR is still shit (at least with the build you're running).

But how about sheen/lich (on your ap build) as a 5th/6th item? It's more mana, and more damage on CD while offering some mr/ms. It's pricey, but seems worth it imo

Edit: on morello's tome, you can use it as a counter to BV since the active pops spell shields


WHat is MBR? :S

mandreds shit razer


Eww.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 26 2012 16:01 GMT
#162
Why people try to theorycraft when Smash is around is beyond me. l0l

He plays Noonoo in ranked. Please try out his suggestions before you offer (counter) opinions, thx.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 16:08:47
July 26 2012 16:08 GMT
#163
On July 27 2012 00:55 101toss wrote:
Ok, so MBR is still shit (at least with the build you're running).

But how about sheen/lich (on your ap build) as a 5th/6th item? It's more mana, and more damage on CD while offering some mr/ms. It's pricey, but seems worth it imo

Edit: on morello's tome, you can use it as a counter to BV since the active pops spell shields

The thing is that I never get to 4th/5th item on nunu and when I do, it's typically selling off philo for a 2K-.2.5Kish item which is usually aegis, abyssal, or zeke's. I think MBR, Lichbane and Triforce are all reasonably good items on Nunu in theory, but you never hit the money for them. The realistic options for more damage on autos are gunblade (only if WotA really doesn't make sense for your team) since you're getting revolver anyway and Wit's End as a 4th item (haven't played with it yet, but it makes a good bit of sense if you need MRes and your team already has an aegis).
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brolaf
Profile Joined May 2012
291 Posts
July 26 2012 16:32 GMT
#164
On July 27 2012 01:08 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 00:55 101toss wrote:
Ok, so MBR is still shit (at least with the build you're running).

But how about sheen/lich (on your ap build) as a 5th/6th item? It's more mana, and more damage on CD while offering some mr/ms. It's pricey, but seems worth it imo

Edit: on morello's tome, you can use it as a counter to BV since the active pops spell shields

The thing is that I never get to 4th/5th item on nunu and when I do, it's typically selling off philo for a 2K-.2.5Kish item which is usually aegis, abyssal, or zeke's. I think MBR, Lichbane and Triforce are all reasonably good items on Nunu in theory, but you never hit the money for them. The realistic options for more damage on autos are gunblade (only if WotA really doesn't make sense for your team) since you're getting revolver anyway and Wit's End as a 4th item (haven't played with it yet, but it makes a good bit of sense if you need MRes and your team already has an aegis).

mbr does far more damage and is more efficient than wits, so as a last item it makes sense if you have magic pen.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 26 2012 16:38 GMT
#165
On July 27 2012 01:32 brolaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 01:08 Mogwai wrote:
On July 27 2012 00:55 101toss wrote:
Ok, so MBR is still shit (at least with the build you're running).

But how about sheen/lich (on your ap build) as a 5th/6th item? It's more mana, and more damage on CD while offering some mr/ms. It's pricey, but seems worth it imo

Edit: on morello's tome, you can use it as a counter to BV since the active pops spell shields

The thing is that I never get to 4th/5th item on nunu and when I do, it's typically selling off philo for a 2K-.2.5Kish item which is usually aegis, abyssal, or zeke's. I think MBR, Lichbane and Triforce are all reasonably good items on Nunu in theory, but you never hit the money for them. The realistic options for more damage on autos are gunblade (only if WotA really doesn't make sense for your team) since you're getting revolver anyway and Wit's End as a 4th item (haven't played with it yet, but it makes a good bit of sense if you need MRes and your team already has an aegis).

mbr does far more damage and is more efficient than wits, so as a last item it makes sense if you have magic pen.

mbr is also far far far more expensive... not to mention 2/3 of mbr's components are relatively worthless on nunu. whereas wit's is cheap, and no part of it is worthless.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 26 2012 16:59 GMT
#166
On July 27 2012 01:32 brolaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 01:08 Mogwai wrote:
On July 27 2012 00:55 101toss wrote:
Ok, so MBR is still shit (at least with the build you're running).

But how about sheen/lich (on your ap build) as a 5th/6th item? It's more mana, and more damage on CD while offering some mr/ms. It's pricey, but seems worth it imo

Edit: on morello's tome, you can use it as a counter to BV since the active pops spell shields

The thing is that I never get to 4th/5th item on nunu and when I do, it's typically selling off philo for a 2K-.2.5Kish item which is usually aegis, abyssal, or zeke's. I think MBR, Lichbane and Triforce are all reasonably good items on Nunu in theory, but you never hit the money for them. The realistic options for more damage on autos are gunblade (only if WotA really doesn't make sense for your team) since you're getting revolver anyway and Wit's End as a 4th item (haven't played with it yet, but it makes a good bit of sense if you need MRes and your team already has an aegis).

mbr does far more damage and is more efficient than wits, so as a last item it makes sense if you have magic pen.

you seem to be missing the point where I never have the money to complete it. Again, I have no problem with the theory behind MBR on Nunu, but in practice, I never have 3.8K to waste after my core and I see it as strictly inferior to Nunu's purpose as the rest of the core that I've put together.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
July 26 2012 17:31 GMT
#167
How are you supposed to play AGAINST NunuTop? I've gotten crushed every time I've tried, as several characters - Riven, Kayle to name a few laners who I had previously considered "rather hard to lane counter"

Doesn't help that it's not obvious where nunu is going when he's picked.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 26 2012 17:55 GMT
#168
On July 27 2012 02:31 sylverfyre wrote:
How are you supposed to play AGAINST NunuTop? I've gotten crushed every time I've tried, as several characters - Riven, Kayle to name a few laners who I had previously considered "rather hard to lane counter"

Doesn't help that it's not obvious where nunu is going when he's picked.

You should faceroll him with shield maxing Riven, it's really frustrating as nunu.

Kayle gets hard countered by nunu, nothing you can do.

You can also sell your soul and start playing ramble.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 26 2012 17:58 GMT
#169
On July 27 2012 02:55 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 02:31 sylverfyre wrote:
How are you supposed to play AGAINST NunuTop? I've gotten crushed every time I've tried, as several characters - Riven, Kayle to name a few laners who I had previously considered "rather hard to lane counter"

Doesn't help that it's not obvious where nunu is going when he's picked.

You should faceroll him with shield maxing Riven, it's really frustrating as nunu.

Kayle gets hard countered by nunu, nothing you can do.

You can also sell your soul and start playing ramble.


It's k, ramble will be fixed soon and gandhi will lose the elos.

Unless, of course, he starts playing nunu top again (which, btw, we were theory crafting and figuring out 2 months ago, u 2 slow smash)
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 26 2012 18:07 GMT
#170
Neo and I were theorycrafting and testing solo top nunu since February, so yea, sorry, nope, you're still a ways behind us. We kinda gave up on it for a number of reasons, but Grail and the Nunu buffs were enough to get me back on the wagon and now I am king nunu.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
July 26 2012 18:11 GMT
#171
How early do you get the chalice against pure AD lanes, Smash?
wat
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 26 2012 18:11 GMT
#172
D= (actually, gandhi may have gotten the idea from neo, we coulda been doing it around the same time, don't remember exactly when)

Grail is awesome, and I think the nunu buffs were slightly too much. He really is very scary now. There just too many op things to ban right now.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 18:20:09
July 26 2012 18:19 GMT
#173
On July 27 2012 02:55 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 02:31 sylverfyre wrote:
How are you supposed to play AGAINST NunuTop? I've gotten crushed every time I've tried, as several characters - Riven, Kayle to name a few laners who I had previously considered "rather hard to lane counter"

Doesn't help that it's not obvious where nunu is going when he's picked.

You should faceroll him with shield maxing Riven, it's really frustrating as nunu.

Kayle gets hard countered by nunu, nothing you can do.

You can also sell your soul and start playing ramble.

Just keep putting points into shield until I'm ahead enough? I normally don't put more than like 2 points in the shield early, but that makes sense - absorb his mana-intensive harass and you're better at autos than he is, and can hop around to deal with being slowed.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 26 2012 18:59 GMT
#174
On July 27 2012 03:11 EquilasH wrote:
How early do you get the chalice against pure AD lanes, Smash?

depends how high their sustain is. if they have high sustain (riven, udyr, lee sin) or do a reasonable amount of magic damage (teemo, kayle, jax, udyr), I get it after ninja tabi, otherwise I get it after glacial shroud.

On July 27 2012 03:19 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 02:55 Mogwai wrote:
On July 27 2012 02:31 sylverfyre wrote:
How are you supposed to play AGAINST NunuTop? I've gotten crushed every time I've tried, as several characters - Riven, Kayle to name a few laners who I had previously considered "rather hard to lane counter"

Doesn't help that it's not obvious where nunu is going when he's picked.

You should faceroll him with shield maxing Riven, it's really frustrating as nunu.

Kayle gets hard countered by nunu, nothing you can do.

You can also sell your soul and start playing ramble.

Just keep putting points into shield until I'm ahead enough? I normally don't put more than like 2 points in the shield early, but that makes sense - absorb his mana-intensive harass and you're better at autos than he is, and can hop around to deal with being slowed.

just max it. Riven's shield owns.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
July 26 2012 19:36 GMT
#175
On July 27 2012 02:58 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 02:55 Mogwai wrote:
On July 27 2012 02:31 sylverfyre wrote:
How are you supposed to play AGAINST NunuTop? I've gotten crushed every time I've tried, as several characters - Riven, Kayle to name a few laners who I had previously considered "rather hard to lane counter"

Doesn't help that it's not obvious where nunu is going when he's picked.

You should faceroll him with shield maxing Riven, it's really frustrating as nunu.

Kayle gets hard countered by nunu, nothing you can do.

You can also sell your soul and start playing ramble.


It's k, ramble will be fixed soon and gandhi will lose the elos.

Unless, of course, he starts playing nunu top again (which, btw, we were theory crafting and figuring out 2 months ago, u 2 slow smash)

lol that was more like 5 months ago. i used it in rank 5s and in the scrim vs navis team when we were spamming kogmaw games. nunu was op for the comp. also i wont lose elo from rumble nerf because i only played him in soloq once in the past 2 months gg.

also nunu my 2nd fav hero. the laugh is too op.
GANDHISAUCE
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 26 2012 19:37 GMT
#176
hahaha, yea, especially since you frequently don't have to attack or anything, can just E, shift + 4, W, E, shift + 4 as you chase someone down and slowly kill them.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
July 26 2012 19:50 GMT
#177
wait so when you lane is it just hit creeps a lot and iceball whenever you can, q when you take damage?

what do you do in teamfights?
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
July 26 2012 19:55 GMT
#178
In the fourth game I tried to play Nunu top, I finally managed to.
After the enemy team firstpicked Shen and I announced that I will play Nunu top, only 2 people asked if I'll be able to do well.(in the first 3 lobbies, the usual "omgtrollnoobuninstalldieincancer" guys told me to not do, so I didn't play him:'( )
Ended with 1/1/17, 1/0/4 and ~60 cs up after 15 mins.
Smash's build works like a charm.
"My spoon is too big."
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
July 26 2012 19:57 GMT
#179
On July 27 2012 04:50 CeriseCherries wrote:
wait so when you lane is it just hit creeps a lot and iceball whenever you can, q when you take damage?

what do you do in teamfights?

u kill an akali who would rather fight u than kill zyra who is trying to trade deaths with ur fed anivia
Hey! Listen!
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 26 2012 19:57 GMT
#180
On July 27 2012 04:50 CeriseCherries wrote:
wait so when you lane is it just hit creeps a lot and iceball whenever you can, q when you take damage?

what do you do in teamfights?

bloodboil your carry, ice ball their carry or their bruisers, charge ult after the initial cc exchange in an area that is advantageous for your team, find creeps to eat when you're low HP. The thing is, even if a fight ends with even exchanges, if your team still has nunu up, you get to take an objective because he's at full HP and no one else is because consume + max CDR + spellvamp is absurd.
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