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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
July 26 2012 20:01 GMT
#181
what runes / masteries / summoners?
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 26 2012 20:05 GMT
#182
MPen Reds
Armor Yellows
MRes Blues
AP Quints

9/0/21 or 9/21/0, typically 9/0/21, but sometimes you gotta suck it up and run defensive masteries vs. rumble or yorick.

ignite/flash
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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
July 26 2012 20:12 GMT
#183
On July 27 2012 05:05 Mogwai wrote:
MPen Reds
Armor Yellows
MRes Blues
AP Quints

9/0/21 or 9/21/0, typically 9/0/21, but sometimes you gotta suck it up and run defensive masteries vs. rumble or yorick.

ignite/flash

How about jewnu (all teh gp10s)?
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 26 2012 20:23 GMT
#184
speccing g/10 on your runes is greedy and dumb. You have two relevant 1:1 AP ratios and armor is crucial for laning. I go philo pick for items, but it's really really stupid to spec it beyond utility masteries in top lane IMO.
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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
July 26 2012 20:36 GMT
#185
One more question (for jungle and lane nunu):

Vamp quints vs AP quints vs MS quints?
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 26 2012 20:36 GMT
#186
AP
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De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
July 26 2012 21:27 GMT
#187
ap, armor, mr, all good
GANDHISAUCE
brolaf
Profile Joined May 2012
291 Posts
July 26 2012 21:41 GMT
#188
On July 27 2012 04:57 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 04:50 CeriseCherries wrote:
wait so when you lane is it just hit creeps a lot and iceball whenever you can, q when you take damage?

what do you do in teamfights?

bloodboil your carry, ice ball their carry or their bruisers, charge ult after the initial cc exchange in an area that is advantageous for your team, find creeps to eat when you're low HP. The thing is, even if a fight ends with even exchanges, if your team still has nunu up, you get to take an objective because he's at full HP and no one else is because consume + max CDR + spellvamp is absurd.

yeah its funny how riot went on a massive nerf wave to get lifesteal items and sustainer champs under control. and then they buffed Nunus Q.
Rho_
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States971 Posts
July 26 2012 21:58 GMT
#189
On July 27 2012 05:05 Mogwai wrote:
MPen Reds
Armor Yellows
MRes Blues
AP Quints

9/0/21 or 9/21/0, typically 9/0/21, but sometimes you gotta suck it up and run defensive masteries vs. rumble or yorick.

ignite/flash


Do you start boots/3? Then philo/pick into grail/fh/wota? Just trying to get a sense of the early game item order.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 22:39:45
July 26 2012 22:35 GMT
#190
On July 27 2012 06:41 brolaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 04:57 Mogwai wrote:
On July 27 2012 04:50 CeriseCherries wrote:
wait so when you lane is it just hit creeps a lot and iceball whenever you can, q when you take damage?

what do you do in teamfights?

bloodboil your carry, ice ball their carry or their bruisers, charge ult after the initial cc exchange in an area that is advantageous for your team, find creeps to eat when you're low HP. The thing is, even if a fight ends with even exchanges, if your team still has nunu up, you get to take an objective because he's at full HP and no one else is because consume + max CDR + spellvamp is absurd.

yeah its funny how riot went on a massive nerf wave to get lifesteal items and sustainer champs under control. and then they buffed Nunus Q.


Not only that, Nunu is also an excellent distraction for the opposing team. When in team fight the other team is going after your AD carry, go start your ultimate. Not only does it slow them, the opposing team has to make a choice to either interrupt your ultimate (which is a potential CC on your AD carry used on you instead), take massive damage, or disperse and get kited by your AD carry.

The only thing that bothers me is that most people do not understand AP Nunu and wave clears way too fast... sometimes I don't get to Q and die


On July 27 2012 06:58 Rho_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 05:05 Mogwai wrote:
MPen Reds
Armor Yellows
MRes Blues
AP Quints

9/0/21 or 9/21/0, typically 9/0/21, but sometimes you gotta suck it up and run defensive masteries vs. rumble or yorick.

ignite/flash


Do you start boots/3? Then philo/pick into grail/fh/wota? Just trying to get a sense of the early game item order.


I recommend boots 3/4 depending on which side you are on and whether or not your jungler starts at red or blue (you want to Q first to help leashing, but doing so you won't get a 4th pot), with at least one blue pot. Go for Doran Ring x1 or 2 -> Revolver -> Glacial Shroud (assuming you are against an AD bruiser) -> WotA -> Frozen Heart for core. Mogwai seems to strongly prefer Athene's, but honestly I think Morello's or DFG is also fine (in general CDR is extremely strong on Nunu).
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 26 2012 22:49 GMT
#191
On July 27 2012 06:58 Rho_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 05:05 Mogwai wrote:
MPen Reds
Armor Yellows
MRes Blues
AP Quints

9/0/21 or 9/21/0, typically 9/0/21, but sometimes you gotta suck it up and run defensive masteries vs. rumble or yorick.

ignite/flash


Do you start boots/3? Then philo/pick into grail/fh/wota? Just trying to get a sense of the early game item order.

boots, 1 hp pot, 2 mana pots.

open Q and eat shit in opposing jangle (if blue, eat big wraith -> opposing small small gol) or your own small gols (if purple, to eat own small gols, hit big one twice, eat little one, then kite between hits on the big one to buy time for consume CD to eat it when it's back up, should leave you with like, -150-200 hp, but then you get to lane, chill out in a bush and then eat a creep to heal back up).

after boots -> philo pick, priorities vary from matchup to matchup, but it's typically boots 2 vs. chalice, then you get the other one, then you either get glacial or straight rush your grail, then you get FH and WotA as appropriate.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Rho_
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States971 Posts
July 26 2012 23:18 GMT
#192
Cool! Thanks for replies. Looking forward to trying this out.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
July 27 2012 03:51 GMT
#193
I wonder how smashs build and play style will work in lower elo ranges. I'm interested in trying it out, but games in lower Elo usually last a lot longer (albeit the cs scores are considerably worse). No idea if it will cause issue or not. I'll try out tomorrow and see for myself.

For a later game build (as games can often go 5 or 6 items at low elo) would you see yourself just doing philo into shurelias and Kage into dfg or whatever. As I'm asking this I'm realizing it really depends on how the game is going and team comps etc, main thing Im wondering is if ice ball stays relevant as a nuke with your usual build, or if it tapers off and just becomes a nice debuff. I spose like rabadons and void could work AT&T 5 and 6 for dmg, or ga omen bv fon for def
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 27 2012 03:57 GMT
#194
On July 27 2012 12:51 Dgiese wrote:
I wonder how smashs build and play style will work in lower elo ranges. I'm interested in trying it out, but games in lower Elo usually last a lot longer (albeit the cs scores are considerably worse). No idea if it will cause issue or not. I'll try out tomorrow and see for myself.

For a later game build (as games can often go 5 or 6 items at low elo) would you see yourself just doing philo into shurelias and Kage into dfg or whatever. As I'm asking this I'm realizing it really depends on how the game is going and team comps etc, main thing Im wondering is if ice ball stays relevant as a nuke with your usual build, or if it tapers off and just becomes a nice debuff. I spose like rabadons and void could work AT&T 5 and 6 for dmg, or ga omen bv fon for def

I wouldn't buy anything with CDR on it because I'm already maxed with this build. I'd typically be looking at some combination of aegis, wit's, abyssal, dcap, hourglass, and void staff for those last items I guess.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 04:19:38
July 27 2012 04:18 GMT
#195
A'ight I'll bear that in mind. I don't spose nunu ult works with his ult like tf's ult used to. Man, that'd be insane if it did.

Man I hate autocorrect
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 27 2012 04:21 GMT
#196
On July 27 2012 13:18 Dgiese wrote:
A'ight I'll bear that in mind. I don't spose nunu ult works with his ult like tf's ult used to. Man, that'd be insane if it did.

Man I hate autocorrect

it does not. you still have to be wise about ult usage to make it count. it's still the biggest beating in the game if you pull it off though.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 27 2012 05:42 GMT
#197
im just sad that Nunu's probably going to get nerfed in the next patch :[ Nunu's exceeds pre-nerf Udyr in terms of sustain and general assholery in lane. Here's to hoping Riot doesn't overdo it.
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 06:45 GMT
#198
On July 27 2012 00:51 BlackPaladin wrote:
In 1 year smash will be the master of every champ and say how "stupid broken" they all are.


lmao props to you sir
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 07:28:41
July 27 2012 07:15 GMT
#199
Is Nunu in the same category as the terror tops like Malphite and Olaf? The two of them lose to pretty much no melee champs, and mages are the ones that destroy them the most. Just don't see how Nunu would do that well vs Kennen.

"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 07:19:43
July 27 2012 07:18 GMT
#200
the build is really weak actually me and my friend tested it alot and the nunu top has problems vs champions that go top because sometimes if there is no jungle on other team you cant hold them off 1v2
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