EPT[Champion] Nunu - Page 8
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Slayer91
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Mogwai
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On July 18 2012 00:32 Slayer91 wrote: When do you max Q on top nunu? Also you have to count the relative resist levels of a nunu versus an udyr typically it's gonig to be a lot more similar than you think although it's a shield not a heal. Typically max Q after E, so by level 13, though I will max it first in certain lanes or if I'm getting camped. Also, Udyr will have slightly higher resists, but not by a ton, I'm typically looking at Frozen Heart, WotA, Unholy Grail as first 3 big ticket items followed by a negatron item with either mercs or tabi for boots. Off the same gold you're looking at like, Wit's + Randuins I guess, so that's an effective 75 extra armor from randuins if you're going balls out defensive spec on Udyr, but since we're talking on top of FH anyway, it's not as huge as it sounds I don't think. Also, nunu gets to participate in poking via iceballs while udyr has to sit back or full commit to Melee range to do anything offensive. *shrug*, just saying that a farmed Nunu is a defensive trump card in poking wars as long as he has consume targets. | ||
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bmn
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Incidentally, Nunu real good against Kennen top. Also real good if (like me) you tend to overlook approaching junglers; just E+W and run away npnp. Do you always build athene's top or do you go FH first against AD bruisers? | ||
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Tooplark
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101toss
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MBR nunu? (note that I typically hate mbr, but on nunu I dunno...) | ||
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Mogwai
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Nunu gets all the gold he can in the laning phase and hopes to hit 3 items after his gold/10s. With these items you want Resists, CDR, enough mana to spam and enough AP/spell vamp to make your spells meaningful. If you know me, I'm a very firm believer in malleable builds that adapt to the situation at hand, but the items you need to properly fill Nunu's mid-late game niche are so specific that I build the exact same shit every game on him (boots, philo + pick, chalice, tabi/mercs, -> grail + FH + WotA). | ||
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Sufficiency
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On July 18 2012 00:44 Mogwai wrote: Typically max Q after E, so by level 13, though I will max it first in certain lanes or if I'm getting camped. Also, Udyr will have slightly higher resists, but not by a ton, I'm typically looking at Frozen Heart, WotA, Unholy Grail as first 3 big ticket items followed by a negatron item with either mercs or tabi for boots. Off the same gold you're looking at like, Wit's + Randuins I guess, so that's an effective 75 extra armor from randuins if you're going balls out defensive spec on Udyr, but since we're talking on top of FH anyway, it's not as huge as it sounds I don't think. Also, nunu gets to participate in poking via iceballs while udyr has to sit back or full commit to Melee range to do anything offensive. *shrug*, just saying that a farmed Nunu is a defensive trump card in poking wars as long as he has consume targets. I donno about Athene's though. By the time you get FH you shouldn't be having mana problems. If CDR is an issue, I will just get Morello's. It's cheap CDR/AP with a decent active. | ||
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Mogwai
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On July 27 2012 00:40 Sufficiency wrote: I donno about Athene's though. By the time you get FH you shouldn't be having mana problems. If CDR is an issue, I will just get Morello's. It's cheap CDR/AP with a decent active. People really need to stop telling me about how nunu doesn't have mana problems... Grail was the missing piece that took my nunu from just another solo top nunu to king nunu. You guys don't need to believe me, but you can check my fucking history and see that it's 9 straight nunu wins, all with the same damn build that rushes grail and FH. The build is absurdly good and if you want to keep living in your world where you can't frontline during poking battles because you run yourself out of mana, go right ahead, but I'm trying to help here. | ||
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BlackPaladin
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brolaf
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On July 27 2012 00:47 Mogwai wrote: People really need to stop telling me about how nunu doesn't have mana problems... Grail was the missing piece that took my nunu from just another solo top nunu to king nunu. You guys don't need to believe me, but you can check my fucking history and see that it's 9 straight nunu wins, all with the same damn build that rushes grail and FH. The build is absurdly good and if you want to keep living in your world where you can't frontline during poking battles because you run yourself out of mana, go right ahead, but I'm trying to help here. Yeah morello's kinda bad, its like the ugly brother of dfg and athene. | ||
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101toss
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But how about sheen/lich (on your ap build) as a 5th/6th item? It's more mana, and more damage on CD while offering some mr/ms. It's pricey, but seems worth it imo Edit: on morello's tome, you can use it as a counter to BV since the active pops spell shields | ||
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Sufficiency
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On July 27 2012 00:52 brolaf wrote: Yeah morello's kinda bad, its like the ugly brother of dfg and athene. It's cheap CDR with good AP. If you want Athene's, great, but there is a 700g difference here. Also Morello's has some mana regen too. | ||
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Sufficiency
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On July 27 2012 00:55 101toss wrote: Ok, so MBR is still shit (at least with the build you're running). But how about sheen/lich (on your ap build) as a 5th/6th item? It's more mana, and more damage on CD while offering some mr/ms. It's pricey, but seems worth it imo Edit: on morello's tome, you can use it as a counter to BV since the active pops spell shields WHat is MBR? :S | ||
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101toss
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mandreds shit razer | ||
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