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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
April 06 2011 14:43 GMT
#201
On April 06 2011 21:19 BluzMan wrote:
So how do you determine a Shaco clone if he doesn't have any buffs/elixirs/sheen-based items? People everywhere are saying it's like very easy, but I don't exactly know how to understand which one is him in a split second.

ping shaco before he ults and the target stays over the real one
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
April 06 2011 14:58 GMT
#202
On April 06 2011 20:13 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 18:53 Iplaythings wrote:
On March 23 2011 12:40 HazMat wrote:
I've been going flash on Shaco. It's really good imo.

flash on shaco would just be brutally annoying, though I am falling in love with ignite lately, its more clutch for ganking than ghost and if youre carefull you wont need ghost as much :D

flash is better, but if u see some retarded easy kill solo mid/top with no escape (ranked games) take ignite

I never felt like I could need it to get out of a situation I didnt fuck up to get myself into.

I will probally change my mind some day but thats how it is at the momemt, at some point I was adamantiun about running ghost
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BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
April 06 2011 17:12 GMT
#203
On April 06 2011 23:43 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 21:19 BluzMan wrote:
So how do you determine a Shaco clone if he doesn't have any buffs/elixirs/sheen-based items? People everywhere are saying it's like very easy, but I don't exactly know how to understand which one is him in a split second.

ping shaco before he ults and the target stays over the real one


Shaco clone also doesnt have items. So if you didnt get to ping him see if he has items or not.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
April 06 2011 20:06 GMT
#204
in addition to pinging and seeing items , shaco clone takes additional damage, and u can easily tell which one is real because the real one will always move (jerking motion) first, either to run or attack.
also if the real one throws a jib or shiv it becomes very obvious
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
April 06 2011 20:32 GMT
#205
On April 07 2011 05:06 HeavOnEarth wrote:
in addition to pinging and seeing items , shaco clone takes additional damage, and u can easily tell which one is real because the real one will always move (jerking motion) first, either to run or attack.
also if the real one throws a jib or shiv it becomes very obvious

The Shaco might just as well only move his clone to fool you and pray that his Decieve comes up before you notice (1 sec?). Of course if you do that and succeed you will be called a pro. If you fail, you will be called a retard.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 06 2011 20:36 GMT
#206
I remember some shaco tricked Utah and I into thinking that his clone was the one that just popped out of deceive by deceiving out of the range his clone could be (such that it instantly appeared and started attacking us). It was really fucking slick, we blew our load on it and then he tore us a new A-hole.
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 10:04:06
April 08 2011 10:03 GMT
#207
oh well , whenever i do that it always works. theres really no way to *stop* it, although there are only a few situations where its actually applicable
(spots where ur dead , and u dont really want to put urself in those spots)
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StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
April 09 2011 10:06 GMT
#208
On April 07 2011 05:36 Mogwai wrote:
I remember some shaco tricked Utah and I into thinking that his clone was the one that just popped out of deceive by deceiving out of the range his clone could be (such that it instantly appeared and started attacking us). It was really fucking slick, we blew our load on it and then he tore us a new A-hole.

It was a pretty slick move, I cant remember if utah was jungling coming in for a gank or what? I wanna say I was mid for that

He had his clone down close to dragon, then deceived into mid past the range of his clone leash and it popped next to him(while he was still stealthed) making it appear that he had dropped deceive prematurely
You can't milk those!
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
April 09 2011 12:06 GMT
#209


Reginald's shaco tutorial.

Alot of changes. Or it could be a troll vid. Dunno.
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jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
April 09 2011 16:45 GMT
#210
I dunno, vid seems pretty legit to me. It has some pretty decent tips in there, but not many ones that we didn't already know about (most have been mentioned in Regi's previous vids too).
Liquidspoison
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom119 Posts
April 13 2011 17:15 GMT
#211
Shaco is an incredible jungler, but he does not always have to jungle. I play pretty much strict 3's and I can dominate a lane with him. Opinions?
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
April 13 2011 17:35 GMT
#212
On April 14 2011 02:15 Liquidspoison wrote:
Shaco is an incredible jungler, but he does not always have to jungle. I play pretty much strict 3's and I can dominate a lane with him. Opinions?

jungling on 3s with shaco is meh, i tried a bunch of paths i dont like them much
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Liquidspoison
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom119 Posts
April 13 2011 17:37 GMT
#213
Agreed. I hate 5's (or at least for now until I get my new graphics card, and get off my netbook). This is why I play Shaco just on the lane in TT. He's extremely boss, and you can max your E instead of W.
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0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
April 13 2011 18:36 GMT
#214
Shaco's e has very long range and short cd, along with pretty good dmg. You can dominate a lot of lanes with e control. And you can get away with ganks by going decieve or just boxes. I've seen really good shaco pros like racoonboywuchuck do it and get super fed and just carry games straight up. Your item build is lantern because lantern is OP, boots of mobility, double zeal because the euros do it, and it works, then you go into PD and black cleaver, followed up by a banshees veil.
Liquidspoison
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom119 Posts
April 13 2011 23:22 GMT
#215
^ I could not agree more. DOuble zeal just cause of the Europeans? ._. Good reasoning
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
April 15 2011 06:34 GMT
#216
smite/cleanse is okish, dunno if anyone has had sucess with it.
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
April 17 2011 05:02 GMT
#217
idk how people play shaco without ghost, pretty much makes him. unless your doing the gimmicky golem ---> box their wraith bush with ignite
Brees on in
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 31 2011 16:14 GMT
#218
Has anyone played shaco going straight AD and max Q and starting mid vs a AP caster? Ive had pretty good luck with it.

Crit glove thing and 2 hp pots to start with Q. Gank from a side bush and hit mid then back off right away.

This gives you enough advantage against a normal AP caster to win the lane or even kill them at level 2.

I build an avarice blade + boots of 5. then rush my IE. Gank like non-stop if your other lanes are getting pushed.

you just have to be really careful because you have nothing defensive goign for you.



Finial build is something like IE, boots 5, ghostblade, bloodthirst, GA , siuational (I like PD for more movespeed)
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 31 2011 17:15 GMT
#219
On September 01 2011 01:14 Trotske wrote:
Has anyone played shaco going straight AD and max Q and starting mid vs a AP caster? Ive had pretty good luck with it.

Crit glove thing and 2 hp pots to start with Q. Gank from a side bush and hit mid then back off right away.

This gives you enough advantage against a normal AP caster to win the lane or even kill them at level 2.

I build an avarice blade + boots of 5. then rush my IE. Gank like non-stop if your other lanes are getting pushed.

you just have to be really careful because you have nothing defensive goign for you.



Finial build is something like IE, boots 5, ghostblade, bloodthirst, GA , siuational (I like PD for more movespeed)

I suppose if you're godly at dodging skillshots that could work, but one W+E combo from Brand or Q+W from Oriana and you instantly lose lane. Not to mention AP casters with point-and-click nuke combos like Annie's Q+W would stomp you hardcore.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11766 Posts
August 31 2011 17:16 GMT
#220
The Jewer gets like a Black Cleaver and stacks Tiamats and BDs all games :x
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