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ptrpb
Canada753 Posts
Yesterday I was in a duo lane, it was Chogath + Swain (me) vs Mordekaiser and Sona and I couldn't do much without wasting my mana pool to absolute zero, then when I hit level 6 I was so underfarmed and zoned that I never recovered. So I guess the issue is, how2earlygameSwain? I have the Northern Frontier skin, so it's an obligation to me that I become godly with him. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
Step 2: be careful with your mana. Only harass when they can't break Q tether easily and BOTH Q and E are up. Step 3: become good at last-hitting minions Step 4: get mp5/lvl blues or yellows (OR right now just rush philostone) | ||
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Ruken
United States858 Posts
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El Hombre Lobo
United States24 Posts
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ManBearPig
Belgium207 Posts
Btw I think Hotshot is going something like 1 or 2 philostones -> cata -> RoA -> deathcap ? | ||
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SHr3DD3r
Pakistan2137 Posts
And I don't really think getting philo stones on AP carries is really viable. But on Swain it sounds like it would be really useful. (Manahog that he is). | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
On November 19 2010 14:01 Tooplark wrote: Skills: R>E>Q>W wins lanes against anyone who has to get close to you or who you have to get close to. Take a point in W as you feel appropriate. Max EW if you can't get good Qs ever. Max EW in a duo lane if you're partnered with someone with a good slow or stun. | ||
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Craton
United States17284 Posts
On June 01 2011 01:47 ManBearPig wrote: Did I miss anything or is there a 3 page Swain thread without anyone mentioning skilling order? Btw I think Hotshot is going something like 1 or 2 philostones -> cata -> RoA -> deathcap ? Yes, he opens Faerie Charm, hp pot x6, mana pot x2 and then builds it into a Philo. The idea is to never leave the lane. | ||
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godemperor
Belgium2043 Posts
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crate
United States2474 Posts
On August 21 2011 01:17 godemperor wrote: I recently played swain on a friends account, he was a lot of fun, but do you think he is viable at higher elo play (1500) cos I rarely see swain on ranked games. He is on tier 2 on elementz tier list, but like half of the champions are on tier 1. Recently got my 10 friend referral, thinking about buying him with the RP. Every champ is viable at 1500. | ||
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Qualm
721 Posts
Frankly, every champion is viable in Solo Queue. | ||
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godemperor
Belgium2043 Posts
On August 21 2011 01:34 Qualm wrote: Frankly, every champion is viable in Solo Queue. Thats great to hear, just bought him, swain so much fun! Anyways would you recommend getting a frozen heart on him, since he is a fairly tanky caster who relies on staying close and needs a lot of mana. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
Tear/Cata should cover your mana needs and build into more useful items on Swain. Cooldowns aren't really the limiting factor on Swain, and you should always have blue buff which gets you to 40% cdr with masteries and blue elixir. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
Swain vs Vlad. You can probably already guess, but there was only 1 kill (came close to killing him a few times) done by me thanks to the help of GP's ult. Then I didn't even go back till around 15/20 minutes in. Had 4.8k gold and went straight for RoA and Sorc boots. After I killed him, the lane went back and forth forever. We both sustain so well. Ran into mana problems a few times, but I usually got back to 1/2 if not mostly full. My tower didn't even go down the entire game, about 35 minutes total before they surrendered. Swain OP?  | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
On November 11 2011 07:47 Cloud9157 wrote: Just had the most boring lane ever. Swain vs Vlad. You can probably already guess, but there was only 1 kill (came close to killing him a few times) done by me thanks to the help of GP's ult. Then I didn't even go back till around 15/20 minutes in. Had 4.8k gold and went straight for RoA and Sorc boots. After I killed him, the lane went back and forth forever. We both sustain so well. Ran into mana problems a few times, but I usually got back to 1/2 if not mostly full. My tower didn't even go down the entire game, about 35 minutes total before they surrendered. Swain OP? Swain vs Vlad is def a boring lane, but if you can land your W before he pools and unload your combo, it shouldn't be too hard. Once he hits level 9, it is basically a farming contest, but if you can get a kill or two before that it is no problem. W>E>Q>Ignite>R> Walk with him until he is dead or the tower forces you back | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
What I found is that most of the time people still try to burst me after I become really hard to kill, wasting their potential to pin someone down. If you can't burst Swain and he's not fed, just ignore him for higher priority targets, since it takes so long if he survives the engage phase. He's really weak against other casters early though, I find. Low range, need to autoattack to make torment win trades or be efficient damage-wise (so you take aggro to harass), and ranged champs are hard to keep in Q for full. He's a better solotop against gap closer champs, but I don't see many people accepting to send an AP top. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
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mrgerry
United States1508 Posts
And Rugfeeder is a liar, Frozen heart is a boss item on swain =) | ||
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