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On June 26 2012 04:19 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 03:13 Praetorial wrote:
Wait. Is 13 pot actually a viable build on Mordekaiser? It's an viable opening in coopvsai, not really a viable opening against competent players. No reason not to open boots. Any mid/jungler that can't gank a bootless morde should consider playing a different game.
What's the point of any pots against AI?
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On June 26 2012 05:44 Offhand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 04:19 JackDino wrote:On June 24 2012 03:13 Praetorial wrote:
Wait. Is 13 pot actually a viable build on Mordekaiser? It's an viable opening in coopvsai, not really a viable opening against competent players. No reason not to open boots. Any mid/jungler that can't gank a bootless morde should consider playing a different game. What's the point of any pots against AI?
They do alot of aggro attacks and stuff, and getting kills early means youre gonna take some damage from them + creeps
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Morde has become my new favorite champion to play. He's so ridiculously fun to play, and even if you get a score of 0-10, you still have more farm than everyone on your team. Hah!
Currently im running two builds depending on what I feel like.
BO1: Boots 3 -> Revolver -> Negatron -> Giants belt -> Abyssal -> Wota -> Deathcap - > Rylais -> Lichbane. You can decide what boots you want depending on the enemy team make up. I generally go for Sorcs due to the Mpen, but sometimes Mercs are the better choice.
The games normally end before I can finish Rylais, but there's been a few games where Ive been able to complete the build.
BO2: Boots 3 -> Revolver -> Gunblade - > Wota - > Spirit Visage -> Deathcap -> Lichbane
This build I use for fun if I want to always farm, never die. The sustain you get from Gunblade + Wota + SV is retarded, you can go from 5% hp to 100% in two creep waves.
I run 21/9/0 Masteries on Morde.
Runes: Mpen reds, Flat armor yellows, Flat MR blues, and 6% Spell vamp quints.
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On June 26 2012 06:03 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 05:44 Offhand wrote:On June 26 2012 04:19 JackDino wrote:On June 24 2012 03:13 Praetorial wrote:
Wait. Is 13 pot actually a viable build on Mordekaiser? It's an viable opening in coopvsai, not really a viable opening against competent players. No reason not to open boots. Any mid/jungler that can't gank a bootless morde should consider playing a different game. What's the point of any pots against AI? They do alot of aggro attacks and stuff, and getting kills early means youre gonna take some damage from them + creeps
Not 13 pots worth. You can get a kill or force them back with 1-2 pots.
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On June 28 2012 12:26 Craton wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 06:03 arb wrote:On June 26 2012 05:44 Offhand wrote:On June 26 2012 04:19 JackDino wrote:On June 24 2012 03:13 Praetorial wrote:
Wait. Is 13 pot actually a viable build on Mordekaiser? It's an viable opening in coopvsai, not really a viable opening against competent players. No reason not to open boots. Any mid/jungler that can't gank a bootless morde should consider playing a different game. What's the point of any pots against AI? They do alot of aggro attacks and stuff, and getting kills early means youre gonna take some damage from them + creeps Not 13 pots worth. You can get a kill or force them back with 1-2 pots.
yes but 13 pots will ensure you're always full
always kill never die hue hue hue
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On June 28 2012 12:47 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 12:26 Craton wrote:On June 26 2012 06:03 arb wrote:On June 26 2012 05:44 Offhand wrote:On June 26 2012 04:19 JackDino wrote:On June 24 2012 03:13 Praetorial wrote:
Wait. Is 13 pot actually a viable build on Mordekaiser? It's an viable opening in coopvsai, not really a viable opening against competent players. No reason not to open boots. Any mid/jungler that can't gank a bootless morde should consider playing a different game. What's the point of any pots against AI? They do alot of aggro attacks and stuff, and getting kills early means youre gonna take some damage from them + creeps Not 13 pots worth. You can get a kill or force them back with 1-2 pots. yes but 13 pots will ensure you're always full always kill never die hue hue hue
always push never ward
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How do you guys feel about Morde vs Fizz? Played it a few times and feels pretty even, you should always out CS him but he has more kill potential (Though I felt once I got some MR I could win a 1v1). Just had a few people pick Fizz to try and counter my FP Mord but it hasn't really hurt me yet (Also had a few Vlads lol wtf).
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Yeah, I think Morde wins that, as long as you can farm well. Fizz can't really burst you with shield up. Not sure if anyone actually thinks Fizz counters Morde.
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Have any of you guys tried this all pot opener I've seen Mordes open up now? Seems lol, but doesn't seem half bad. Much better than the regrowth opener at least. Not sure if I'd try that over the boots+pots one tho.
Edit: Oh seem's like it's already been discussed lolol
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I face morde every once in a while. I wasn't sure at first but I think kayle and teemo both beat morde. You don't have to do much special. Just build up AD/on hit and harass in lane from early levels. Every once in a while morde goes top and early on he uses too much health to harass. MR is useful. Basically if you can bully him early on you can deny cs. Then later on you just need to break through the shield.
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On September 02 2012 13:02 obesechicken13 wrote:
I face morde every once in a while. I wasn't sure at first but I think kayle and teemo both beat morde. You don't have to do much special. Just build up AD/on hit and harass in lane from early levels. Every once in a while morde goes top and early on he uses too much health to harass.
What kind of Morde goes top lane anyway.
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Only the best mordes.
I was actually laning morde vs a kayle top earlier today. While she came to lane with an extra dblade from a kill and assist because of a bad early invade, I don't think I'd have been able to handle her even without it. She just beats through your shield and you don't do nearly enough damage in return.
Also, Triforce Bloodthirster. Only way to morde.
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On September 02 2012 13:18 Tooplark wrote:
Only the worst mordes.
I was actually laning morde vs a kayle top earlier today. While she came to lane with an extra dblade from a kill and assist because of a bad early invade, I don't think I'd have been able to handle her even without it. She just beats through your shield and you don't do nearly enough damage in return.
Also, Triforce Bloodthirster. Only way to morde.
Fixed that for you. With no escapes, no CC, negative sustain, and all AOE spell damage, he is a terrible top laner.
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If I see a morde mid, I instantly pick lee sin or nunu and just gank him nonstop since it's already a pretty easy kill. A morde top is just asking to get killed by a level 2 gank, killed the moment he arrives back in lane and then killed 30 seconds later by the laner if the jungler isn't there to save his ass. I'm more than willing to give up my far buff in order to ensure that morde is absolutely useless and can't even afford wards to save his own ass.
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this guy and singed are the gayest champs out there
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I have been playing a lot of Morde.
I have a unique style of playing him, I actually think he is a very viable jungle/roaming Champion.
I play him by laning top until I can afford the Hextech Revolver. It is this item that allows me to go jungle and roam. Generally I start with boots and 3 pots. The boots help with moving thru the jungle. The pots help recover health from harras and ability usage until I have my spell vamp.
Once I have the revolver, I hit the jungle. I start with the 2 Golems then hit the red buff, then usually with 25% health I hit the wraiths. If I feel lucky I hit the wolves, if not I heal, then wolves and blue.
After this, I look to upgrade and get my Will of the Ancients.
By this time I should have my ult and should be ready to pick a gank target. I roll with Flash and ignite. And when ganking I pop everything, w (when close), Ignite, e, q, r then flash to catch up if necessary.
Morde is incredibly strong with this style. He is SO powerful in the jungle once he has his spell vamp.
Am I the only one who plays him like this? Thoughts?
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So essentially you swap roles with your jungler? Cause from what it seems like, you just ditch top and go jack his jungle and gank lanes.
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Well usually I call jungle, and we have 2 top for my first 3 levels. At my level, it is not uncommon to have entire games with 2 top 1 mid and 2 bot.
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Why would you go into the jungle when it provides so much less gold and exp then top lane, Soaz has shown that a roaming top can really dictate a game. Champions in the jungle almost always take smite in order to make them anywhere near the speed nessasary to keep up. The jungle changes have made jungle mobs scale better but it doesn't help you at the start.
revolver first is a good build for sustain but after that you really want to help out your cc problem preferably at this point twin shadows is looking really good. after that the new DFG is really slick with his already 50% ap damage or you could go void staff and landry's for some real wicked damage from your ult and your shield.
thinking about landry's void DFG morde is making me really excited.
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