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Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 19:13:28
May 05 2012 19:10 GMT
#121
DFG core now? Also I don't see upgrading to WotA worth it until late into the game, unless you are running double AP
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
May 05 2012 19:15 GMT
#122
On March 27 2012 15:36 zodde wrote:
Blew on release? It's back down to 12% now, not far from that original 10% :D

That's a 20% buff, pretty big imo.

On May 06 2012 04:10 Woony wrote:
DFG core now? Also I don't see upgrading to WotA worth it until late into the game, unless you are running double AP

Why would DFG be core? Upgrading to WotA asap is still good. An 8% increase in spellvamp is nothing to laugh at; it increases the spellvamp by 66%.

Altho tbh, I've been thinking that it might be better to upgrade your Revolver into Gunblade since you get more sustain out of Gunblade and it gives you better stats. The biggest drawback is that Gunblade takes much longer to build. I don't really play Morde tho so...
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 05 2012 19:30 GMT
#123
Gunblade makes your Q hit like a truck. Also, since Lichbane can be quite interesting on him bcause of this, it makes the aa even more potent.
Gunblade, Rylai, DFG, Lichbane, Zhonya, Rabaddon, Void staff, Abyssal scepter, FoN all good on him I believe. FoN gimmicky tho.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
June 23 2012 06:46 GMT
#124
How does everyone play the no1 nowadays?

I've picked him up as my main AP mid, currently 10-3 with him in ranked and enjoying it. I run mpen reds, flat ap yellows, mr/level blues and spellvamp quints. 21/1/8 (One point in MR then 4 in death time, one in flash mastery and 4 in MS mastery). I've found that aside from a good Cass/Swain he doesn't really have any bad matchups, and does really well vs Vlad, Kennen and Kassadin in particular. I usually build boots 3 > revolver > sorc boots > dfg > wota > abyssal > DC > zhonyas.

For any other morde players on here I'm looking for feedback on my build/masteries/runes .
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 23 2012 10:18 GMT
#125
I'm not sure how Morde should lose to Swain. DoTs give him plenty of him to replenish his shield to mitigate the damage even when caught naked, his E has 700 range, more than anything Swain has, and unless you duke it out top the lack of escape + early squishiness from Swain will prevent him from going to your side to make you choose between creeps and him for your harass.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
June 23 2012 13:30 GMT
#126
A lot of times you can ward only one side and just play to that side - usually the side with your wraiths. You can then run down the river or towards your tower, depending on which way the enemy is ganking.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 23 2012 15:31 GMT
#127
That's true, but not until your first back, and Morde is most easily abused during his first few levels, so...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 18:07:56
June 23 2012 18:07 GMT
#128
On June 23 2012 15:46 schmutttt wrote:
How does everyone play the no1 nowadays?

I've picked him up as my main AP mid, currently 10-3 with him in ranked and enjoying it. I run mpen reds, flat ap yellows, mr/level blues and spellvamp quints. 21/1/8 (One point in MR then 4 in death time, one in flash mastery and 4 in MS mastery). I've found that aside from a good Cass/Swain he doesn't really have any bad matchups, and does really well vs Vlad, Kennen and Kassadin in particular. I usually build boots 3 > revolver > sorc boots > dfg > wota > abyssal > DC > zhonyas.

For any other morde players on here I'm looking for feedback on my build/masteries/runes .

I play morde mid, open 13pot (since real items aren't very good on him), first buy revolver/boots>wota(or lucky pick->dfg)>mercs/sorcs>rylais>situational defensive item (randies or fon or abyssal or ga, seems to vary)>hat/zonyas

21/9/0 since health regen is pretty good on morde and so is more mr/armor

Spell pen reds, armor yellows, mr blues, vamp/ap quints

Also, buy wards, since getting ganked early is morde's biggest threat
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
June 23 2012 18:13 GMT
#129
Wait. Is 13 pot actually a viable build on Mordekaiser?
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ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 18:35:16
June 23 2012 18:28 GMT
#130
I really think that boots + 3 or maybe green pendant + 1 or even mr cloak +2 would better. If morde's biggest problem is getting ganked early then why wouldn't you start boots?

Edit: I also think that you should get giants belt or negatron instead of completing wota quickly. After this I think you should either complete gunblade or rylais so you can just focus on gibbing one squishy person in a team fight.
oscar62
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada417 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 19:02:55
June 23 2012 19:02 GMT
#131
morde almost definitely needs boots to start the game, 13 potion is ridiculously irresponsible and asking to get fucking rocked by a maokai/nautilus etc

he's always been one of my favorite heros

for runes i definitely recommend armor + MR flats instead of this flat and scaling AP shit, seriously going into any lane in this game with 0 bonus armor puts you at a big disadvantage. not only do your spells cost health and you're a slow ass melee, your opoonent's AA harass and creeps are doing WAY more damage to you than they're supposed to..

mpen reds
flat resist yellows + blues
MS/AP quints (i like AP but MS is very good as well)


the one thing i want to experiment with is running a hp/5 setup with quints and the defense matery just to see how much he can sustain. i've never used regen quints before so i don't actually know how effective they are, just a thought i've always had.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 23 2012 19:45 GMT
#132
On June 24 2012 03:13 Praetorial wrote:
Wait. Is 13 pot actually a viable build on Mordekaiser?

Prolly not but it's hella fun

always farm never not farm
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 23 2012 20:06 GMT
#133
On June 24 2012 04:45 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 03:13 Praetorial wrote:
Wait. Is 13 pot actually a viable build on Mordekaiser?

Prolly not but it's hella fun

always farm never not farm


Probably popularized by Dyrus.

I think it might be OK, but that's an awful lot of money you are spending on pots when you can be working toward your revolver.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 23:35:49
June 23 2012 23:33 GMT
#134
On June 24 2012 04:45 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 03:13 Praetorial wrote:
Wait. Is 13 pot actually a viable build on Mordekaiser?

Prolly not but it's hella fun

always farm never not farm

Try it before you deny it

I was skeptical myself until I witnessed the power of 13pot morde

I am gold elo, if it means anything


On June 24 2012 05:06 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 04:45 arb wrote:
On June 24 2012 03:13 Praetorial wrote:
Wait. Is 13 pot actually a viable build on Mordekaiser?

Prolly not but it's hella fun

always farm never not farm


Probably popularized by Dyrus.

I think it might be OK, but that's an awful lot of money you are spending on pots when you can be working toward your revolver.

Are you going to open amp tome first? It's really bad :s

The other items (boots/regrowth) don't really help you farm much, so 13potkaiser is best kaiser (midlane, not top)

Basically put, health pots are morde's mana pots
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
June 25 2012 18:14 GMT
#135
The only real alternatives to opening 13pot are Bootspots, Clothpots, and NMMpots. Bootspots morde feels extremely squishy and you run out of pots very fast. Clothpots is reasonable against someone who does only physical but the cloth armor doesn't build into anything for a long time; NMMpots is only 2 pots and morde chugs pots like the person who lived across from me last semester.
Also, while 13pots might be overkill, it's extremely modular. (Oh. I bet I only need 10 pots this time, I'll start with a ward!) Morde's abysmally weak at level 1, and it's his early levels that need help the most.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 25 2012 18:21 GMT
#136
Actually, the amount of regeneration provided by 13 pots is the same as having a regrowth pendant for 650 seconds (assuming you are always regenerating).
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
June 25 2012 18:40 GMT
#137
On June 26 2012 03:21 Sufficiency wrote:
Actually, the amount of regeneration provided by 13 pots is the same as having a regrowth pendant for 650 seconds (assuming you are always regenerating).


That's 11 minutes in. By 11 minutes in, Morde has generally either fallen significantly behind in lane such that he can't get near creeps, or he's able to totally ignore the opposing laner and farm. The greater health regen of pots makes a lot of Situation 1 become Situation 2.
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 07:28:27
June 25 2012 19:19 GMT
#138
On June 24 2012 03:13 Praetorial wrote:
Wait. Is 13 pot actually a viable build on Mordekaiser?

It's a viable opening in coopvsai, not really a viable opening against competent players. No reason not to open boots.
Any mid/jungler that can't gank a bootless morde should consider playing a different game.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
JokerSan
Profile Joined April 2005
United States306 Posts
June 25 2012 20:26 GMT
#139
13pots morde is easily the funniest thing I've heard all day.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
June 25 2012 20:29 GMT
#140
fuck you guys, you should always open longsword + 2 pot

just wait by your spawn 10 seconds you wont lose any xp or creeps
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
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