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Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
April 13 2011 18:06 GMT
#81
I guess it's time to dust off the old Mordekaiser, all this solid advice has given me new ideas.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 18:08:46
April 13 2011 18:08 GMT
#82
I have a lot of trouble playing morde vs another morde. Both of us are so dam good champions that I don't even know what to build. I feel so lost. Can anybody help me? The metagame seems to be all about mordekaiser, like every ranked game somebody first picks mordekaiser, and I'm having trouble knowing how to counter morde. It feels like I have to first pick mordekaiser, not to get owned by mordekaiser, or I lose.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 13 2011 18:11 GMT
#83
yea ^

In ranked, I just recently figured out that if you have the 2nd and 3rd ban, you always get first pick (feels imbalanced this way to me, but it's how it works). So if you have 1st and 4th ban, you should ban Mordekaiser or tell your captain to ban him, otherwise the other team will take him and then you'll lose. If you're 2nd and 3rd ban though, you can leave him open and then first pick him and then you'll win. This strategy is really good in my experience (except vs. Pantheon, but I just ban him now).
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 13 2011 18:12 GMT
#84
Your best bet is to play mundo. He like morde v.05. They design mundo, and they realize they can make him better, so they make morde. But mundo is still almost good cuz he is the closest champion to morde. You still lose, cuz morde es #1, but you dont lose as bad.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 18:21:37
April 13 2011 18:20 GMT
#85
On April 14 2011 03:08 0123456789 wrote:
I have a lot of trouble playing morde vs another morde. Both of us are so dam good champions that I don't even know what to build. I feel so lost. Can anybody help me? The metagame seems to be all about mordekaiser, like every ranked game somebody first picks mordekaiser, and I'm having trouble knowing how to counter morde. It feels like I have to first pick mordekaiser, not to get owned by mordekaiser, or I lose.


I have this problem also, that sometimes our last pick noobie calls morde and inevitably ends up feeding the morde vs morde top lane. Should I just be a dick and pick morde but not trade with him?
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 18:30:35
April 13 2011 18:23 GMT
#86
On April 14 2011 03:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 03:08 0123456789 wrote:
I have a lot of trouble playing morde vs another morde. Both of us are so dam good champions that I don't even know what to build. I feel so lost. Can anybody help me? The metagame seems to be all about mordekaiser, like every ranked game somebody first picks mordekaiser, and I'm having trouble knowing how to counter morde. It feels like I have to first pick mordekaiser, not to get owned by mordekaiser, or I lose.


I have this problem also, that sometimes our last pick noobie calls morde and inevitably ends up feeding the morde vs morde top lane. Should I just be a dick and pick morde but not trade with him?


You don't even make sense. Stop trolling this thread. In ranked you can only have 1 mordekaiser.

On April 14 2011 03:11 Mogwai wrote:
yea ^

In ranked, I just recently figured out that if you have the 2nd and 3rd ban, you always get first pick (feels imbalanced this way to me, but it's how it works). So if you have 1st and 4th ban, you should ban Mordekaiser or tell your captain to ban him, otherwise the other team will take him and then you'll lose. If you're 2nd and 3rd ban though, you can leave him open and then first pick him and then you'll win. This strategy is really good in my experience (except vs. Pantheon, but I just ban him now).


Mogwai so noob. It's so easy to beat Pantheon with mordekaiser. You have to go and max w first, because every time he jumps on you and you have w, you can get your shield back from the dmg of HSS. You just need the skills to press self cast w as he jumps. Takes a lot of practice, but once you get used to it, it's really useful. When he HSS you, it's really crazy, your energy goes down and up really fast. Then you punish him with auto attacks and spells because he came and jumped on you and came onto you at melee range. Then, you just punish them by pushing the lane to tower and having wards. If they jump on you, you do the same thing, but with cleanse/ghost, because there will probably be more than one person there to gank you.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
April 13 2011 18:23 GMT
#87
mogwai number 1 troll.

I still like morde, hes fun to dick around with because people make the mistake of walking into a mace of spades alone.
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Liquidspoison
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom119 Posts
April 13 2011 23:09 GMT
#88
It was kind of obvious he was, you just have to avoid there question and not get mad.
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dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 23:43:13
April 13 2011 23:42 GMT
#89
On April 14 2011 08:09 Liquidspoison wrote:
It was kind of obvious he was, you just have to avoid there question and not get mad.


I can't tell if he's a counter troll, or if he's getting trolled.

All of numbers' and smash's stuff is like a troll within a troll.
LightgO
Profile Joined April 2011
12 Posts
April 14 2011 00:44 GMT
#90
mordekaiser can kill fountain in under 10 minutes its secret pro strategy
Liquidspoison
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom119 Posts
April 14 2011 01:05 GMT
#91
Trolling within Trolling. It's inception mate. Valid information mixed with not giving satisfaction to the troll.

ONTOPIC: How about that morde?
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
April 14 2011 20:58 GMT
#92
On April 14 2011 10:05 Liquidspoison wrote:
Trolling within Trolling. It's inception mate. Valid information mixed with not giving satisfaction to the troll.

ONTOPIC: How about that morde?


you know, I'm pretty sure he felt satisfied
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Liquidspoison
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom119 Posts
April 14 2011 22:17 GMT
#93
Well it's ok mate, because I feel satisfied too.
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
December 01 2011 17:03 GMT
#94
anyone still play him after the nerfs? I haven't used him in ranked but did fine in a few normals. I think his early game is pretty weak now against a lot of solo tops but no one really tried to abuse it against me so I don't know.

also I love that he's a top lane that can rush Will of the Ancients so if you show up to a teamfight your team just wrecks things.
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
December 01 2011 17:08 GMT
#95
On December 02 2011 02:03 starfries wrote:
anyone still play him after the nerfs? I haven't used him in ranked but did fine in a few normals. I think his early game is pretty weak now against a lot of solo tops but no one really tried to abuse it against me so I don't know.

also I love that he's a top lane that can rush Will of the Ancients so if you show up to a teamfight your team just wrecks things.

His early game is much much weaker, but if you can survive until you get revolver, you can be just as dumb in lane as pre-nerf. Morde's relentless pushing, which is best countered by a lot of top lane ganks, might be even stronger with the new jungle.
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OhNeverMind
Profile Joined October 2010
United States90 Posts
March 02 2012 16:47 GMT
#96
So Morde is the first character I tried in League, and first purchase. I play the game at a casual level but I think about the game a lot and this guide and discussion seem pretty outdated. So here is how I play Morde if anyone wants to offer any critiques or suggestions.

Skill order R > E > W > Q
In the past I used to sometimes open W but in early levels it gives so little shield generation from creeps now so E seems far better. Also much easier to safely harass and last hit at early levels when you are pretty weak.

I like him best mid. I Run 21 offense, mPen reds, armor yellows, mres/lvl blue, AP quints.

open boots + 3 pots. Get revolver first. If laning against AP rush Abyssal Scepter. That's pretty much my core for a standard mid matchup. Don't get Sorc boots if you get abyssal, get mercs or tabi, or CDR boots if you really want more offense. I forget this but take Blue elixir too, it is good.

In general Morde favors items that offer both resists and AP, due to the fact that his shield acts as effective health (resists apply to it) and spell vamp and the life leach on his ult also cause him to favor resists over the health items.

Items to consider...
Zhonya's. Good AP and Armor, active allows you to regen shield/health while invulnerable

Wota. Spell vamp is pretty crazy, especially if you are running dual AP.

Deathcap. Best AP item. even if your ratios are pretty mediocre.

Lich Bane. Rushing this makes you pretty glass cannon... but it is strong late if you have a lot of AP and some survivability.

Spirit Visage. I don't get this item... but if you go something like sorc boots -> WOTA instead of abyssal this offers really good mres and boosts your spell vamp. worth a mention.

Rylais. Strong Item, I don't find the slow super useful since your damage is AOE and your burst is really front-loaded. Health is still decent on Morde. (his W does offer some free resists too). This item is situational though.


Anyways thats my philosophy on Morde, i'd be happy to try new things though!
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
March 02 2012 17:36 GMT
#97
Just out of curiosity, how do you beat him 1v1 mid as Veigar? I had a game a few days ago vs one(and I'm new with Veigar so I'm not very comfortable with him), and couldn't harass or anything. Basically just kept focusing on last hits even though he pushed the shit out of my lane. Eventually we won because we had a Rammus(lolop) that kept ganking him so that I could get a couple of free kills and farm, until it got to the point where I could one shot him with my combo.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
March 02 2012 22:36 GMT
#98
Don't think you can. Best chance would be to stun him with 0 shield and try to 100-0 before he can ult, but I don't see you ever poking him down.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
March 02 2012 23:48 GMT
#99
I honestly don't really see the point of wota on morde as opposed to getting a gunblade anymore unless you're a. starved for gold or b. running double wota/have other people on your team that benefit from the aura.

wota and gunblade give the exact same amount of spellvamp. gunblade is much more expensive, sure, but the stats on it are all extremely useful for him. you also shouldnt have any problems getting farm on morde past the first few levels anyways.
OhNeverMind
Profile Joined October 2010
United States90 Posts
March 03 2012 04:41 GMT
#100
Yeah I should have mentioned gunblade, it is really good but I am bad and forget to use the active on that item... The AD on gunblade only really helps out his Q but everything else is really good on him. Especially if you don't need the AP aura.
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