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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On October 18 2013 14:17 Frudgey wrote: Is Mordekaiser even good in this meta? I had thought that he had really fallen off compared to other popular mid laners. I feel Mordekaiser has been about the same as before. Really strong laning vs certain mid laners, and a very binary teamfight (get ghost + stay alive -> WIN, didn't get ghost/died -> LOSE). | ||
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Frudgey
Canada3367 Posts
I guess what I'm asking just what should I be doing with Mordekaiser when I play him mid lane. | ||
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Ethelis
United States2397 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Try to find some VODs of westdoor0204 playing Mordekaiser. He is really good at it and one of the few high Elo players who actually plays this champion. | ||
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Zanno
United States1484 Posts
On October 28 2013 10:59 Frudgey wrote: Does anyone know the general playstyle of Mordekaiser these days? I was told that you just push like a madman with him, as in you just never stop pushing. I guess what I'm asking just what should I be doing with Mordekaiser when I play him mid lane. pardon the double negative but you can't not push with morde because the more you shove the more you shield if morde ever gets caught with his shield down he's one of the squishier melees and hes probably just dead | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
On October 18 2013 14:17 Frudgey wrote: Is Mordekaiser even good in this meta? I had thought that he had really fallen off compared to other popular mid laners. He has some decent lanes but I still think hes bad. He basically offers you map pressure because he pushes really hard, he can bully reasonably well in lane vs some mid/short range champs, and he has decent damage. He offers no CC or global threat though and he is really easy to camp. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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never_Nal
Costa Rica676 Posts
On October 28 2013 11:03 Ethelis wrote: AFAIK play him S2 style. Shove to tower, take your jungle (preferably theirs when it's possible), and most importantly dont forget to hue. DONT FORGET TO HUE!!!!, that's the spirit of mordekaiser  . I think his damage could be game changer, but lack of cc, or hard mobility makes him scale off in current meta | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On November 02 2013 03:34 Ryuu314 wrote: His ranges are also pretty terrible making it quite hard to actually be able to ghost someone. You ghost melee champions, not ADC. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
I am a bit worried if this is mostly due to the MMR level (often people underestimate my lanestrength due to passive). As well as the viability of the tanky build in higher MMR, if I manage to keep climbing my MMR rating. I basically rush a guise, sorcs and anti-item vs my lane opponent and bank on MPen+Base damages; mpen seems to work suprisingly really well with Sunfire/Thornmail. 1) Any Mordekaisers out there know if he's viable as a tanky toplaner in higher than gold-Low Plat? 2) Is a Sheen item viable? Looking at that sweet sweet Q and reasonable low CDs. Always push never not push, always take towers never not take towers. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
On April 22 2014 23:41 Jek wrote: I've been having a lot of succes over the last week playing toplane tank Mordekaiser. This is on gold-plat MMR, mind you. I am a bit worried if this is mostly due to the MMR level (often people underestimate my lanestrength due to passive). As well as the viability of the tanky build in higher MMR, if I manage to keep climbing my MMR rating. I basically rush a guise, sorcs and anti-item vs my lane opponent and bank on MPen+Base damages; mpen seems to work suprisingly really well with Sunfire/Thornmail. 1) Any Mordekaisers out there know if he's viable as a tanky toplaner in higher than gold-Low Plat? 2) Is a Sheen item viable? Looking at that sweet sweet Q and reasonable low CDs. Always push never not push, always take towers never not take towers. 1) Who cares, as long as he's fun? hhauehuaheueheuhue 2) Absolutely. There are a few caveats, though. The biggest is that there's not really a smooth build path. Usually you're busy stacking resists and mpen early, and that's when Sheen is strongest. Second, you're already very kiteable in fights, and sheen is useless if you can't auto people. That said, it is glorious glorious when the game is right. As for which Sheen upgrade to get: Triforce, always and forever. You must channel your inner Caller. Morde is not real Morde without the vroom vroom speeds. IBG might look like it makes more sense, but if you have true BR spirit you know that there is only one item for you. oh and sheen ups make your towerkilling so vastly faster, it's absurd | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
On April 23 2014 00:32 GrandInquisitor wrote: Are you banking on the fact that junglers don't gank top any more? see, it doesn't matter how many times you die it only matters how fast you go | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On April 23 2014 00:32 GrandInquisitor wrote: Are you banking on the fact that junglers don't gank top any more? With Ghost/Teleport+MSpeed Runes and Mastery, I haven't really had that many issues with ganks/camps. I main support so I buy a ton of wards; I'd imagine in higher MMR it'd be a problem where people are more sneaky, but so far the delay in items vs moar wards is well worth the trade off since passive makes me so strong in lane anyway. Focusing 100% on towers is the easiest way to win at my MMR anyway. Fuck KDA. hue EDIT: Will try TF next time, fasterested towers bettestest towerz. | ||
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Frudgey
Canada3367 Posts
Mordekaiser is my jam. Also I'm sure if you have good wardage and run ghost on Mordekaiser top lane you'd be fine. I play Darius top lane and that's how I usually deal with ganks. And then I'm sure once you get to a certain point you can just 1v2 them in true Mordekaiser fashion. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On April 23 2014 03:33 Frudgey wrote: Out of curiosity what do you typically build on Mordekaiser top lane? Because that seems like a lot of fun and I'd like to try that out. Mordekaiser is my jam. Also I'm sure if you have good wardage and run ghost on Mordekaiser top lane you'd be fine. I play Darius top lane and that's how I usually deal with ganks. And then I'm sure once you get to a certain point you can just 1v2 them in true Mordekaiser fashion. I go for a fastish guise+sorcs and then, unless I need it earlier obviously, an anti-item vs my lane opponent (resist item first). I've seen a lot Mordekaisers go for fast hextech but I don't think spellvamp is good on him, at least early, since everything is AoE and thus get reduced vamp - I'd rather just become unkillable through mitigation. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On April 23 2014 08:13 GolemMadness wrote: How do you sustain in lane without spell vamp? Potions mostly, the vamp until you have a lot of items/levels is miniscule IMO and not worth delaying mpen/resists. | ||
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