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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 28 2013 01:31 GMT
#201
On October 18 2013 14:17 Frudgey wrote:
Is Mordekaiser even good in this meta? I had thought that he had really fallen off compared to other popular mid laners.


I feel Mordekaiser has been about the same as before. Really strong laning vs certain mid laners, and a very binary teamfight (get ghost + stay alive -> WIN, didn't get ghost/died -> LOSE).
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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
October 28 2013 01:59 GMT
#202
Does anyone know the general playstyle of Mordekaiser these days? I was told that you just push like a madman with him, as in you just never stop pushing.

I guess what I'm asking just what should I be doing with Mordekaiser when I play him mid lane.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
October 28 2013 02:03 GMT
#203
AFAIK play him S2 style. Shove to tower, take your jungle (preferably theirs when it's possible), and most importantly dont forget to hue.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 02:10:58
October 28 2013 02:10 GMT
#204
Yeah you push and try to create an early game advantage. You can also roam as Mordekaiser (!!!). You don't have CC's, but you got plenty of damage.

Try to find some VODs of westdoor0204 playing Mordekaiser. He is really good at it and one of the few high Elo players who actually plays this champion.
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Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
October 28 2013 23:47 GMT
#205
On October 28 2013 10:59 Frudgey wrote:
Does anyone know the general playstyle of Mordekaiser these days? I was told that you just push like a madman with him, as in you just never stop pushing.

I guess what I'm asking just what should I be doing with Mordekaiser when I play him mid lane.

pardon the double negative but you can't not push with morde because the more you shove the more you shield

if morde ever gets caught with his shield down he's one of the squishier melees and hes probably just dead

aaaaa
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
October 29 2013 07:33 GMT
#206
On October 18 2013 14:17 Frudgey wrote:
Is Mordekaiser even good in this meta? I had thought that he had really fallen off compared to other popular mid laners.


He has some decent lanes but I still think hes bad. He basically offers you map pressure because he pushes really hard, he can bully reasonably well in lane vs some mid/short range champs, and he has decent damage. He offers no CC or global threat though and he is really easy to camp.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
November 01 2013 09:52 GMT
#207
Wow, in 2 weeks' time it would have been 3 years since I posted the guide. GG
cool beans
never_Nal
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica676 Posts
November 01 2013 17:17 GMT
#208
On October 28 2013 11:03 Ethelis wrote:
AFAIK play him S2 style. Shove to tower, take your jungle (preferably theirs when it's possible), and most importantly dont forget to hue.

DONT FORGET TO HUE!!!!, that's the spirit of mordekaiser . I think his damage could be game changer, but lack of cc, or hard mobility makes him scale off in current meta
Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
November 01 2013 18:34 GMT
#209
His ranges are also pretty terrible making it quite hard to actually be able to ghost someone.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 01 2013 22:19 GMT
#210
On November 02 2013 03:34 Ryuu314 wrote:
His ranges are also pretty terrible making it quite hard to actually be able to ghost someone.


You ghost melee champions, not ADC.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-02 00:27:33
November 02 2013 00:27 GMT
#211
Oh yeah, I wonder if Mordekaiser will be viable as a jungler for S4. Always farm, never gank. huehue
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
April 22 2014 14:41 GMT
#212
I've been having a lot of succes over the last week playing toplane tank Mordekaiser. This is on gold-plat MMR, mind you.

I am a bit worried if this is mostly due to the MMR level (often people underestimate my lanestrength due to passive). As well as the viability of the tanky build in higher MMR, if I manage to keep climbing my MMR rating. I basically rush a guise, sorcs and anti-item vs my lane opponent and bank on MPen+Base damages; mpen seems to work suprisingly really well with Sunfire/Thornmail.

1) Any Mordekaisers out there know if he's viable as a tanky toplaner in higher than gold-Low Plat?
2) Is a Sheen item viable? Looking at that sweet sweet Q and reasonable low CDs.

Always push never not push, always take towers never not take towers.
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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-22 15:34:56
April 22 2014 15:32 GMT
#213
On April 22 2014 23:41 Jek wrote:
I've been having a lot of succes over the last week playing toplane tank Mordekaiser. This is on gold-plat MMR, mind you.

I am a bit worried if this is mostly due to the MMR level (often people underestimate my lanestrength due to passive). As well as the viability of the tanky build in higher MMR, if I manage to keep climbing my MMR rating. I basically rush a guise, sorcs and anti-item vs my lane opponent and bank on MPen+Base damages; mpen seems to work suprisingly really well with Sunfire/Thornmail.

1) Any Mordekaisers out there know if he's viable as a tanky toplaner in higher than gold-Low Plat?
2) Is a Sheen item viable? Looking at that sweet sweet Q and reasonable low CDs.

Always push never not push, always take towers never not take towers.


1) Who cares, as long as he's fun? hhauehuaheueheuhue
2) Absolutely. There are a few caveats, though. The biggest is that there's not really a smooth build path. Usually you're busy stacking resists and mpen early, and that's when Sheen is strongest. Second, you're already very kiteable in fights, and sheen is useless if you can't auto people. That said, it is glorious glorious when the game is right.
As for which Sheen upgrade to get: Triforce, always and forever. You must channel your inner Caller. Morde is not real Morde without the vroom vroom speeds. IBG might look like it makes more sense, but if you have true BR spirit you know that there is only one item for you.

oh and sheen ups make your towerkilling so vastly faster, it's absurd
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
April 22 2014 15:32 GMT
#214
Are you banking on the fact that junglers don't gank top any more?
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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
April 22 2014 15:35 GMT
#215
On April 23 2014 00:32 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Are you banking on the fact that junglers don't gank top any more?

see, it doesn't matter how many times you die
it only matters how fast you go
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-22 17:42:30
April 22 2014 17:39 GMT
#216
On April 23 2014 00:32 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Are you banking on the fact that junglers don't gank top any more?

With Ghost/Teleport+MSpeed Runes and Mastery, I haven't really had that many issues with ganks/camps. I main support so I buy a ton of wards; I'd imagine in higher MMR it'd be a problem where people are more sneaky, but so far the delay in items vs moar wards is well worth the trade off since passive makes me so strong in lane anyway.

Focusing 100% on towers is the easiest way to win at my MMR anyway. Fuck KDA. hue

EDIT:
Will try TF next time, fasterested towers bettestest towerz.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
April 22 2014 18:33 GMT
#217
Out of curiosity what do you typically build on Mordekaiser top lane? Because that seems like a lot of fun and I'd like to try that out.

Mordekaiser is my jam.

Also I'm sure if you have good wardage and run ghost on Mordekaiser top lane you'd be fine. I play Darius top lane and that's how I usually deal with ganks. And then I'm sure once you get to a certain point you can just 1v2 them in true Mordekaiser fashion.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-22 20:10:11
April 22 2014 20:06 GMT
#218
On April 23 2014 03:33 Frudgey wrote:
Out of curiosity what do you typically build on Mordekaiser top lane? Because that seems like a lot of fun and I'd like to try that out.

Mordekaiser is my jam.

Also I'm sure if you have good wardage and run ghost on Mordekaiser top lane you'd be fine. I play Darius top lane and that's how I usually deal with ganks. And then I'm sure once you get to a certain point you can just 1v2 them in true Mordekaiser fashion.

I go for a fastish guise+sorcs and then, unless I need it earlier obviously, an anti-item vs my lane opponent (resist item first). I've seen a lot Mordekaisers go for fast hextech but I don't think spellvamp is good on him, at least early, since everything is AoE and thus get reduced vamp - I'd rather just become unkillable through mitigation.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
April 22 2014 23:13 GMT
#219
How do you sustain in lane without spell vamp?
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
April 22 2014 23:46 GMT
#220
On April 23 2014 08:13 GolemMadness wrote:
How do you sustain in lane without spell vamp?

Potions mostly, the vamp until you have a lot of items/levels is miniscule IMO and not worth delaying mpen/resists.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
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